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To: Pharmboy
I keep hearing Vietnam Veteran everytime this joker makes a speech. Below adds some perspective.

As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned - and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag.

Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he
claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.

Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings, Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his cousin C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, assisted in brokering a
$905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau, Vietnam - an odd coincidence.

As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14 (Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr. Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10 regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom. Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by mid-October,
more than 50 Christian pastors and elders had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone. On Oct. 29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by lethal injection simply for protesting religious repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce Christianity. Thousands have been killed or imprisoned or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost one-half of their adult male population fighting for the United States, and without them, there might be thousands more American names on that somber black granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.

MICHAEL BENGE Foreign Service officer and
former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)

7 posted on 08/26/2003 5:27:55 PM PDT by South40 (Get Right Or Get Left)
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To: South40
Thank you for filling in some important details.
11 posted on 08/26/2003 5:32:15 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: South40
Thanks. By the way Nixon got us out. When he was removed from office the NVA brought down tanks. Frank Church had the Congress prevent any kind of air power retaliation or defence and, later, Congress even stopped adequate funding of the South Vienamese. It was a deplorable action and a betrayal of the 56,000 Americans who died.
15 posted on 08/26/2003 5:36:02 PM PDT by shrinkermd (i)
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To: South40

[The following is an official quote from Kerry's OFFICIAL website]


Vietnam didn't threaten US; US war crimes did

 Many very highly decorated veterans have testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia. These were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.


 They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war.

We call this the Winter Soldier Investigation. The term Winter Soldier is a play on words of Thomas Paine's in 1776 when he spoke of the summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough. We feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come

Source: Winter Soldier speech to Senate Foreign Relations Cmte Apr 23, 1971

[For some reason, the last sentence is not finished. Here it is, from the actual speech]:

"We could come back to this country, we could be quiet, we could hold our silence, we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, not the reds, but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out...".



Vietnam war was criminal hypocrisy and tore apart US

There is nothing in South Vietnam which could happen that realistically threatens the United States of America. And to attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy, and it is that kind of hypocrisy which we feel has torn this country apart.

[Although most of this sentence is standard communist rhetoric, of the day, I cannot figure out what the phrase " which those misfits supposedly abuse," means, or to whom it refers. Any ideas? The entire speech (I assume) is found here]:


We found that not only was it a civil war, an effort by a people who had for years been seeking their liberation from colonial influence. We found most people didn't even know the difference between communism and democracy. They only wanted to work in rice paddies without helicopters strafing them and bombs with napalm burning their villages and tearing their country apart. We found also that all too often American men were dying in those rice paddies for want of support from their allies. We saw first hand how monies from American taxes were used for a corrupt dictatorial regime.

Source: Winter Soldier speech to Senate Foreign Relations Cmte Apr 23, 1971


These ideas STILL represent Kerry's official position on Vietnam. He is, in essence, condemning ALL Viet Nam veterans as war criminals. Based on the "Silver Star Episode," I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry, himself had engaged in actions he, himself considered "war crimes." It is standard behavior, for (some) people who are carrying a large load of guilt, to turn to radical leftism. The radical left motivates people by drowning them with guilt, then promising a sort of anti-christian "absolution" of that guilt. All you have to do is join THEIR movement, (religion).

In the past, joining the forces working for the enemy was considered being a turncoat, perhaps a traitor. Now it gets you elected to High Office. GRRRRR....


p.s. [holding up both hands in peace/Victory "V"....] "I AM NOT A WAR CRIMINAL"

31 posted on 08/26/2003 8:16:16 PM PDT by DoorGunner (DG=Fool, Liar, and sinner, [and EEEEEEvil Fundie] (Non Hæretico Comburendo))
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