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Normalizing Islam in America
islamicity ^ | 8/23/2003 | Imam Abu Laith Luqman Ahmad

Posted on 08/27/2003 1:16:06 PM PDT by Eurotwit

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"Nor does Islam function well without command (amr). It was ibn Taymiyyah who said: "it is better for the Muslims to live under a tyrannical ruler for 100 years then to be without a ruler for one night"."

interesting quote

1 posted on 08/27/2003 1:16:06 PM PDT by Eurotwit
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2 posted on 08/27/2003 1:27:05 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Eurotwit
interesting quote

Isn't it?

And of course, there's:

America, despite her faults, decaying morality, capitalist constitution,

3 posted on 08/27/2003 1:29:26 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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Except for that striking and alarming paragraph, the whole discussion is relatively healthy for a recent immigrant group. Note the hallmarks of civil society; the need for compromise; non-exclusivity; avoidance of xenophobia; no terrorist apologia. The word jihad did not show up. Saudi-brand bonecrushing wahhabism is not apparent.

This fellow and his next generation could form a useful American Muslim sub-culture.
4 posted on 08/27/2003 1:36:27 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This Islamo-fascism has been brought to you by Saudi Arabia!)
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"The system of marriage and divorce is in shambles. In fact there is no real system in place at all. In too many instances, marriage and divorce are characterized by a capricious recklessness that borders on the insane. All kinds of horror stories are circulating from husbands with multiple welfare wives, sometimes not even knowing of each other's existence. To the unchecked and increasing frequency of HIV infection, to the numerous and undocumented instances of divorce and broken families, to the widespread abuse of the rights and bodies of Muslim women, "

Islam will never come into the civilized world until they renounce polygamy. It is at the core of their problems. (9 year old sexually mutilated girls being sold like cattle to dirty old men who then dump their older wives).
5 posted on 08/27/2003 1:36:34 PM PDT by tkathy
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Muslims in the United States have been presented with a unique opportunity because they themselves are a minority and any power granted to a religious body is voluntary and not subjugative. In other words, you won't see a situation where someone's head is chopped off on a whim.

But chopping someone's head off "according to Sha'aria law" should be OK to do here, according to this guy.

6 posted on 08/27/2003 1:38:58 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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Why do we have to cater to islamics? Let the islamics go to where Islam wants them. When non-islamics go to an islamic country, do you see them catering to us? So the islamics can take a permanent hike to the middle east where most islamic countries are located.
7 posted on 08/27/2003 1:41:43 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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If they had the power, they could manipulate the media into "religion norming," like they do race-onorming now. A black in every news telecast, on the front page of every section of the newspaper. Instead, we'd see Arabs everywhere to ensure the impression that they're omnipresent and important.
8 posted on 08/27/2003 1:43:02 PM PDT by warchild9
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At this juncture I do not see any mass exodus of Muslims from this country...

Pity, that. Really....

9 posted on 08/27/2003 2:02:25 PM PDT by Ronin (Qui tacet consentit!)
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To: Eurotwit
Making the public believe in "moderate" Islam is one of the greatest scams ever foisted upon the American public imo
Thanks to our bought off politicians and oil money...via CAIR - The Wahhabi Lobby and our good good friends the Saudis...
The Untouchables
10 posted on 08/27/2003 2:08:56 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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I've even heard Muslims leaders say publicly, "we're as American as apple pie" whatever that means.

But they don't eat pork rinds.

11 posted on 08/27/2003 2:19:59 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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The majority of Muslims living in the United States aren't part of any organized Muslim community or body in this country.

Maybe they find something in this kafir-run, capitalist, constitutionally run country that they like a whole LOT better than they find in Islam anywhere in the world. Like freedom to be the best that they can be possibly? Hmmmmmm.

12 posted on 08/27/2003 2:20:13 PM PDT by America's Resolve ("We have prepared for the unbelievers, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran 76:4)
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There are nowhere near 7 million Muslims in the U.S. I can't for the life of me understand "conservatives" who think they will conserve a single thing under this unprecedented invasion, who piss and moan about every hint of global government, the global village, the U.N.,one-worldism, etc., but pretend not to be alarmed by the policy of one-worldism-in-one-country being imposed on them and their posterity by the left.
13 posted on 08/27/2003 2:37:39 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: Eurotwit
http://www.islamicity.com/

Check out the website. Interesting. Everything is about peace, love, and the eternal struggle.

I gotta' tell you though, I need to see some Arab and Middle-Eastern leaders and their syndicated medias stand up and publicly decry the barbaric terrorism that is happening throughout the world as a result of Islam!!!

A bus gets bombed by a "militant" because of the Pali "struggle".
"Martyrs" turn our commercial aircraft into missiles, as a statement against Western "Imperialism".

But the instant there is retaliation, it is called a "massacre".

Get real, it's 2003, if they want to practice Islam, let them. Just don't be upset at ME because I've taken actions and attitudes that convey my lack of trust in their sincerity.
14 posted on 08/27/2003 2:57:47 PM PDT by baltodog
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"imposed on them by the left"????

We have a Republican House, Senate, Presidency and S.C. Not that I don't agree with your ultimate conclusions, but we cannot blame Howard Dean and assorted other commies for everything.
15 posted on 08/27/2003 2:59:36 PM PDT by fortaydoos
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So the islamics can take a permanent hike to the middle east where most islamic countries are located.

Agreed. If every last one of them left the country, it would be fine by me. In fact, it would be fabulous.

16 posted on 08/27/2003 3:02:21 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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"...or any other religious governing body with real legislative powers."

Keep in mind THIS is what Muslims in this country have as the ultimate goal - enough political power to control American foreign policy overseas.
17 posted on 08/27/2003 3:09:41 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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Hey! You know what sucks?
I just went back to their website and checked out their cartoon page!!
There is no reasoning with these people.
Kill them.
Thanks, and have a great day!
18 posted on 08/27/2003 3:32:36 PM PDT by baltodog
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And this ones for the children...


They have a great online coloringbook, teaching peace and love, (and bombs and tanks too!!!)
19 posted on 08/27/2003 4:16:49 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: jordan8
The state department wages jihad against america every damned day. The arabists at foghead bottomhole are so arabist that they probably all do little boys while bonging it up. Make no mistake the diversity lottery goes on regardless of "the Christmas help" at 1600 Penn Ave.
20 posted on 08/27/2003 6:32:33 PM PDT by Righty1
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