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OUI, OUI: ARNOLD PUMPS UP ORGIES AND DOPE IN '77 SHOCK INTERVIEW
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Posted on 08/27/2003 3:59:45 PM PDT by journey7873

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To: Sir Valentino
President Bush *NEVER* used illegal drugs. That is a bald-faced *LIE* perpetrated by the *MEDIA*. I am *DISAPPOINTED* that any Freeper would fall for that one.

You can see how this Arnold fixation is degrading the party - - - his followers laugh at or justify depraved activity, and even try to use the Clinton line - "everybody does it", and they're even willing to drag W into the mud to defend their new hero! I started out enthusiastic about Arnold, but I've come to believe that it will pull the GOP into the moral muck with the Democrats if such as he become our leaders. No more pro-family or pro-life, just anything that's glitz and pleases the lowest common denominator of society. Sad, sad, sad.

201 posted on 08/27/2003 5:08:49 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: ambrose
Why are all of Schwarzenegger's interviews with *PORNOGRAPHIC* magazines like Playboy and Oui?
202 posted on 08/27/2003 5:08:49 PM PDT by Sir Valentino
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To: churchillbuff
Sparta may well have been a better fit.
203 posted on 08/27/2003 5:08:52 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0 .............................................. 0 rows returned)
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To: giotto
Now THAT'S how he should play it. Just like when Bush REFUSED to take back that "major league a**hole" dig at Clymer on Letterman, Arnold should just go right ahead and be brutally honest about it. He did the interview/photos/whatever to advance his career at the time. Would he do that today? The thought is patently absurd. He's twice the age now, and is (hopefully) a wiser person (he's also got more money than God--so to speak--and doesn't have to). He can take it head on and say at least he's not a slimy politican trying to hide from his past. He's successful, he's here, and he wants to solve California's problems. If he puts it the right way, he's got *nothing* to worry about--ESPECIALLY in California.
204 posted on 08/27/2003 5:09:14 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: churchillbuff
Perhaps Arnold eventually saw the error of his ways. He does appear to live a substantially different lifestyle than in his earlier years. If he has changed, could you find it in your heart to forgive him?
205 posted on 08/27/2003 5:09:19 PM PDT by TheDon (Why do liberals always side with the enemies of the US?)
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To: Sir Valentino
I hope it's a lie. I think GW would of come clean....but based upon my experience, you never know.
206 posted on 08/27/2003 5:10:04 PM PDT by zarf (Dan Rather is god.)
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To: churchillbuff
Ummmmm.........

This post was not of the merit to post over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over.

207 posted on 08/27/2003 5:10:07 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: dennisw
... Arnold is far from perfect but far better than Bustamante. McClintock is closer to my beliefs but unattainable this time around.

Agreement!

208 posted on 08/27/2003 5:11:16 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: journey7873
I was giggling reading this article, thinking big labor's money may move over to Arnold now....he should have run as a Democrat, he would win in a landslide....

while Gray Davis was macking on a drunk 16 year old Cybil Shepard on the beach in Hawaii, Arnold was pumping you up!
209 posted on 08/27/2003 5:11:21 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: journey7873
Well, at least Arnold won't reverse the moral decay if he becomes Governor. I hope all our children hear this. Hopefully it will inspire them not to become bodybuilders. And you thought California was the laughingstock of the world now. Wow, there is enough dirty jokes here for his entire term.
210 posted on 08/27/2003 5:11:21 PM PDT by Russell Scott (Without massive intervention from Heaven, America doesn't have a prayer.)
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To: 68 grunt
Ridicule?

You ridicule me? Great tactic.

My kind? What is that?

What example do you have of my 'extreme' position?
211 posted on 08/27/2003 5:11:22 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0 .............................................. 0 rows returned)
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To: dmanLA
Does he STILL do this? That would be more relevant.

He still supports street morals - - pro-abortion and gay adoption. That way lies ruin for our society and nation.

212 posted on 08/27/2003 5:11:23 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Windcatcher
One of the worst Republican strategies was the 'holier than thou' position that left them open to hypocrisy when a scandal broke, drove away voters who were sinners, and played into the Dem stereotype that they used to fire up their base and young people.

It was a stupid political strategy, and people are finally seeing that.

The old stereotype is dead...long live the new stereotype!
213 posted on 08/27/2003 5:11:29 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (If Hillary ever takes the oath of office, she will be the last President the US will ever have. -RR)
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To: Windcatcher
One of the worst Republican strategies was the 'holier than thou' position that left them open to hypocrisy when a scandal broke, drove away voters who were sinners, and played into the Dem stereotype that they used to fire up their base and young people.

It was a stupid political strategy, and people are finally seeing that.

The old stereotype is dead...long live the new stereotype!
214 posted on 08/27/2003 5:11:29 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (If Hillary ever takes the oath of office, she will be the last President the US will ever have. -RR)
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To: Smogger
Isn't that what gays were called back then? IIRC, in 1977, the euphemisms were "f---", fairies, homos, "light in the sandals"; but NEVER gays. That wasn't popular until the last 15 years or so. (What I'm suggesting is that it was not politically incorrect for its time.)
215 posted on 08/27/2003 5:11:51 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Which party represents the working people?)
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To: prarie earth
lol, Is Mary Carey available for comment?

Mary is above commenting on sleaze like this.

216 posted on 08/27/2003 5:12:58 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: ambrose
Many thanks. Seems he's got some 'splaining to do...
217 posted on 08/27/2003 5:13:17 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: journey7873
In fact, I believe there were two of them.
218 posted on 08/27/2003 5:13:22 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: TheDon
If he has changed, could you find it in your heart to forgive him?

He's still preaching moral decadance --- gay "rights" and gay adoption, and anything-goes abortion. Unlike his orgies of old, this hurts society as a whole -- if he gets into a position of power where he can pervert the Republican Party off of its pro-family principles. We don't need a second party that stands for depravity; we already have the Democrats.

219 posted on 08/27/2003 5:13:53 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: journey7873
Now we now why Arnold was accepted into the Kennedy Clan!
220 posted on 08/27/2003 5:14:13 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: jsbankston
I think it would be disingenuous, and it *would* insult my intelligence.
221 posted on 08/27/2003 5:14:17 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: Eaker
Judge not, let thee be judged?

I do not think that means what you think it means.

Really a bad example on our position of calling sin sin.

I think this story if crap - I am a forgiven saint and my past has no bearing on who I am now. Arnold should be debated for the now and recent past.

But you are using that scripture incorrectly and out of context.
222 posted on 08/27/2003 5:14:58 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0 .............................................. 0 rows returned)
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To: AmericaUnited
"Other drugs" referred to roids, and you'd know this if you troubled yourself to click on the link provided.
223 posted on 08/27/2003 5:15:16 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: Hildy
It's so ridiculous that it had to be posted no less than 6 times.

When you have no argument, just repeat the absurd.
224 posted on 08/27/2003 5:15:52 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Thank you, McClintock supporters, for all your nasty and insulting emails.)
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To: Hildy
Not to mention our President, GW Bush who was quite the partier in his youth.

And Dick Cheney (2 DWI)

225 posted on 08/27/2003 5:16:52 PM PDT by gdani
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To: 68 grunt
McClintock is closer to your beliefs but unattainable this time around?
226 posted on 08/27/2003 5:16:58 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0 .............................................. 0 rows returned)
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To: Eaker
Do you read the Bible?

Yes, and it has warning for a society that permits the slaughter of innocent children. Heard of abortion? Arnold thinks it's fine. The Bible also warns about the longevity of a society that accepts the homosexual agenda. Arnold thinks that's fine, too.

227 posted on 08/27/2003 5:17:30 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Scenic Sounds
LOL!!!!
228 posted on 08/27/2003 5:17:47 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: CyberCowboy777
But you are using that scripture incorrectly and out of context.

Please enlighten me.

229 posted on 08/27/2003 5:18:01 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: journey7873
PING!

Your One Stop Resource For All The California Recall News!

Want on our daily or major news ping lists? Freepmail DoctorZin.

230 posted on 08/27/2003 5:18:46 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: journey7873
I wonder how long before Maria gets po'd at the Clinton strategy and calls Uncle Teddy to have them stop the smears?

Think Teddy will put family first?

I wouldn't hold me breath.

231 posted on 08/27/2003 5:19:16 PM PDT by technomage
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To: journey7873
Because this is the internet. You can't go around posting stuff like this. Now if we were all adults and wanted to make an informed decision about this candidate...well that would be a different story.
232 posted on 08/27/2003 5:19:39 PM PDT by I_love_weather
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To: churchillbuff
...you might have loved Caligula.

I did enjoy the movie. You have a problem with adult debauchery?

233 posted on 08/27/2003 5:19:39 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: churchillbuff

One of the things that amuses me about McClintock supporters such as yourself and others is their tendency to be exclusive of anyone who might have had a good time in their youth. Arnold was single at the time. There was no indication that the sex was anything other than voluntary. Jeez, back when I was in college, I had two girls at the same time once. Does that disqualify me from serving as dogcatcher? Does the fact that I had two girls make it a female gang-b*ng instead of voluntary sex? When do I get my freaking interview?

By the way, I used to drink a lot more beer in those days, too!

Clinton was a lying bastard from the getgo; we didn't resent his drug abuse and his nose candy abuse. We figured that it was par for the course for a man with no character traits save those which gave him power. We resented his lying about all the little things. We really got bent out of shape when Colonel Holmes' letter came out. That kind of thing mattered to us. If Bill Clinton hadn't been anything other than a serial liar, he'd have been treated better by us. But if he had been truthful, he'd have been Bill Bradley, not Bill Clinton.

Like it or not, this won't hurt Schwarzenegger. In California, his cool quotient just went up. And I know that just burns you up, because you want the real conservative, McClintock, to win this race and you know that Arnold is in the way of your dream.

But the fact is, in 2003, Arnold can win and McClintock can't. How do I figure this? I was out in California visiting my mom, my sister, and her husband in late July. My sis and her husband are professionals who live in the West Valley. Both are registered Democrats. Both are impressed with Arnold and will probably vote for him. His mix is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. That's what those swing California voters are going for.

Would they vote for McClintock? Put away the hash pipe and step away from the keyboard if you believe that they would even think of voting McClintock.

This race is about winning the Governor's chair, not setting a moral example for others. You set the moral example by how you govern. McClintock cannot win this race, and knows he cannot. But he's a politician like Arnold, and the time will come when he will pull out of the race. The only question is the price he will ask. McClintock doesn't want to be blamed by the Party for handing the race to Cruz. But if he stays in long enough, he can extract enough concessions from Arnold to make sure that he has a hand in the crafting of next year's budget and the imposition of spending caps.

Oh, and Arnold has to take care of McClintock's Thousand Oaks consituency, as well. You know that is going to be on TMC's list of demands. Arnold will meet those demands, too.

Politicians are more or less the same, in that they will do almost anything to secure a victory. Pretending that one is holier than the other is a fool's errand.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

234 posted on 08/27/2003 5:19:51 PM PDT by section9 (To read my blog, click on the Major!)
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To: churchillbuff
I am not defending A.S. I am questioning your judging fellow Freepers as if you are above them.

You are not.

235 posted on 08/27/2003 5:20:36 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: dennisw
What are you talking about? This is the one time CA can elect a true conservative. Simon ran a horrible campaign during the last general election, got zero establishment (money) support and still came within 5% of winning. This is a special election, and the most motivated voters are conservatives. This is the best shot we've ever had and you want to throw it away on a baby killing, tax raising, RINO.
236 posted on 08/27/2003 5:20:52 PM PDT by evilsmoker
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"Juice" was not considered the dangerous drug it is today. It was seen as a legit and widely accepted performance enhancer. olympic teams from all over the planet used them.

It was not until the steroid phase of the war on drugs that there negative consequences were made known, and then the govt layed on extra demonization to prove the point.
237 posted on 08/27/2003 5:21:09 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (If Hillary ever takes the oath of office, she will be the last President the US will ever have. -RR)
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To: journey7873
I'll.....aagggghhhh.....be back.
238 posted on 08/27/2003 5:21:09 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: journey7873
Interesting article. Glad he said good things about gays, they may appreciate that he has been open-minded for so long. I found his analysis and comments about bodybuilding extremely perceptive. He is a smart man.

He said stuff about drugs and sex, and I wonder how much was true and how much was playing to the audience of the magazine. Even if true, though, I am not shocked and doubt many people will be. People who find this just scandalous, I think, would not have voted for him anyway. He was a grown-up and said candid grown-up things and I respect him for that.

As for this being comparable to Clinton, I don't see any suggestion of alleged rape, or of lying under oath, or of improper conduct on taxpayer time.

Since Democrats really have no standing to hold this stuff against anyone, I find its release curious. I have a sneaking suspicion that Arnold's camp itself is getting this stuff out early, so there are no last-weekend surprises as in 2000 that might cause actual damage. The opposition would have waited longer. This just creates more buzz around Arnold and will suck air and discussion time away from the other candidates without doing him much if any damage.

239 posted on 08/27/2003 5:21:28 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: journey7873
The Big Question: What does Larry Flynt think of all this?
240 posted on 08/27/2003 5:22:58 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: churchillbuff
If you were a Californian and you have to vote tomorrow for either Arnold Schwarzenegger or Cruz Bustamente for governor. No other choices.

Who would vote for?
241 posted on 08/27/2003 5:24:14 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: ambrose
What is the point of bringing up something Arnold said 26 years ago? People change. They grow up, get married, have children.

Since lifetimer pol Tom MadClintock was an adult at that time and according to the LA Times article (August 25, 2003 by Daryl Kelley) fervently pro-military and pro-Vietnam War around that time, can you state what branch of the military that he joined and the terms of service?

Attached picture of patriot MadClintock will substitute until you provide actual military service picture:


242 posted on 08/27/2003 5:24:14 PM PDT by carbon14
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To: BurbankKarl
If Arnold had self-pleasured himself into the Oval Office sink and George Stephanopolis's wastebasket like Billy Blisters, he would be accepted by the Clinton family, too.
243 posted on 08/27/2003 5:24:28 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: section9
Ahnold is a L - I - A - R

You don't care? Fine. The sheeple didn't care with Clinton either. Some of us DO care...
244 posted on 08/27/2003 5:24:35 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: DoughtyOne; Torie

I would hope you have more sense than to actually think "saying McClintock can't win" in any way approaches the level of damage a post and thread like this could cause.

This post and thread won't get a fraction of the hits that Drudge will get. The damage will be done with or without Free Republic.

I was warning from the earliest stages of the recall campaign that the Dems would be laying in wait for Arnold with personal scandals. Those who've rushed to his bandwagon have no excuse for beijng surprised by this. It's August 27th, and the recall is over 5 weeks away. Do you really think this is the last arrow the Democrats have?


245 posted on 08/27/2003 5:25:12 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Viva la 187!)
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To: CyberCowboy777
My panic? Good joke! You show me one place where I've badmouthed McC. I will lash out and try to ridicule every social conservative that foists his intemperence and intolerance my way. I've had enough of your (typlified) cheap crap, and I ain't gonna take it anymore. If that means the end of this fine country - I put the blame squarely on your (typlified) doorstep.
246 posted on 08/27/2003 5:25:44 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: TankerKC
I'm waiting for the dirt on Gary Coleman, so I can ignore it and defend him!

If I had to guess, it's that Coleman takes "upskirt" photos of women. And that he has an iron clad defense......

247 posted on 08/27/2003 5:25:57 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: dogbyte12
I will not comment on the text, other than to say, I would love to see him explain now how his morals have changed since this interview

Easy. He married into the Kennedy clan.

248 posted on 08/27/2003 5:26:03 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: ejdrapes
I suspect Drudge has more than a few pictures of men in his collection..........
249 posted on 08/27/2003 5:26:21 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: dennisw
I'm thinking, I'm thinking.
250 posted on 08/27/2003 5:27:05 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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