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Arnold Supporters- need your help
ArnoldGovernor.net ^ | 8.29.2003 | Jagrmeister

Posted on 08/29/2003 1:18:28 AM PDT by jagrmeister

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To: Andy from Beaverton
The anti-Arnold people are starting to sound quite evil, like Democrats

You mean like anti-McClintock people thanking McClintock supporters for electing Cruz. [/sarcasm]

Maybe McClintock folks should just thank Arnold supporters for electing Cruz and call it even. How childish. Conservatives should support conservatives if they wish to advance conservative policy.

201 posted on 08/29/2003 9:59:39 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: Kudsman
Let us all know when those who reside outside of New York 365 days a year get to vote in New York elections.
202 posted on 08/29/2003 10:09:54 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Touche. I wish some of you could, maybe we could get rid of the Rino stranglehold on the GOP in this state. How big/influencial is the Conservative party in California?
203 posted on 08/29/2003 10:16:58 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: 68 grunt
It doesn't surprise me.

Hb
204 posted on 08/29/2003 10:19:52 PM PDT by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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To: Taiwan Bocks
You make no point other than your familiarity with "hallucinating." Good for you.

Care to expand on that statement?...how did you come to that conclusion? Don't you think you bite more that you can chew?

205 posted on 08/29/2003 10:20:32 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is Hydrogen and Stupidity" Albert Einstein)
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To: Kudsman

Self-governance just don't work, eh?

206 posted on 08/29/2003 10:21:44 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Would you please consider that just maybe both Arnie and McClintock supporters are blinded by their passions for the candidate they have chosen to support. If it had been the left's goal to disrupt the conservative movement they couldn't have done any better job than Arnie himself has done. Please, I am asking you as an interested outsider to see that a house divided cannot stand and it is Arnold pretending to be conservative that is causing the strife from my outside perspective. I will butt out of these Arnie/McClintock threads from here on out. I just pray that Californians don't squander this opportunity.
207 posted on 08/29/2003 10:30:26 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: Cultural Jihad
Self-governance just don't work, eh? Not too well when both parties keep endorsing and funding big Government Liberals. People lose interest when they can't identify with candidates. It is a sad number that even turn out to vote in NY anymore these days.
208 posted on 08/29/2003 10:33:53 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: jagrmeister
Does the McClintock-Schwarzenegger split remind anyone of the Bush-Perot split in 1992? Basically, both splits forced conservatives to make the choice of voting their conscience or voting for the win.

Right now, the vote for Schwarzenegger appears to be the vote for a win. And what it comes down to is: what is the value of a win if the winner is not much different than the opponent? Is a Schwarzenegger win really much better than a Bustamonte win?

I don't mind telling you, if winning Republicans are no more than just a bit to the right of Liberal Democrats, then the leftward (and downward) slide continues apace anyway and we're still face with the search for conservative leaders that will turn the situation around, not just delay the inevitable.

We're it me, I'd vote for the man whom I felt would do the best job for my state. Were I a Californian, that would be a vote for McClintock. I guess that means that the Democrats would still maintain control of the Governorship, but I can't imagine that Scwarzenegger would do a better job.

I've yet to see an example of the "stealth" conservative who runs as a moderate to win, but decloaks to become a genuine conservative in office.
210 posted on 08/29/2003 11:45:35 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Kudsman
Man, this whole recall thing is giving me 1992-vintage Bush-Perot flashbacks!
211 posted on 08/29/2003 11:50:43 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
And will Tom McClintock be invited to the Christmas Orgy, even though he is ashamed of the size of his c**k in front of other men?

>Not to worry, he doesn't even have one.

I cannot BELIEVE I'm reading this about fellow Republicans on FR! Don't you guys know about the 11th Commandment?

212 posted on 08/29/2003 11:59:56 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Arnold can't win, why waste your time.


Just splitting the vote you shoud enjoy
Governor Cruz.
213 posted on 08/30/2003 12:55:28 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: Tamsey
That's true Arnold will even worse than Bloomberg.

Bloomberg is being guided by Warren Buffet.

Remember Arnold said he was ashamed of the Republicans
for impeaching Clinton.

214 posted on 08/30/2003 12:57:29 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: Andy from Beaverton
As evil as Arnold when Arnold said he was ashamed
of the Republicans for impeaching Clinton?

How do you deal with that?

Being pro-Clinton is ok in your book?
215 posted on 08/30/2003 12:58:57 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: Princeliberty
Sorry, you've been greatly misinformed. Arnold is a supply-sider, endorsed by Milton Friedman the great Reagan man himself. He has been advocating less taxes and government cuts. Arnold has also been campaigning and fundraising faithfully for Republicans for two decades.

Bloomberg, on the other hand, was a Democrat all his life until he decided to switch and run as a Republican specifically for the election.

No comparison.

(and plenty of Republicans disagreed with the impeachment because they knew the liberal press would twist it to make Republicans look petty and vengeful... which is exactly what happened)
216 posted on 08/30/2003 1:16:55 AM PDT by Tamzee (Finish your beer. There are sober people in India.)
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To: BradyLS
Why do you believe Schwartzenegger is a "stealth" conservative and can't imagine he would be better than the Democrats?
217 posted on 08/30/2003 1:20:49 AM PDT by Tamzee (Finish your beer. There are sober people in India.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
You have a good point and when McClintock says it's time to get behind Arnold, that's different.

But there's still time for a conservative candidate.

218 posted on 08/30/2003 1:24:21 AM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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To: Cultural Jihad
I don't know what you are referring to by, "all you can do is criticize of spelling of Davis' first name."

Were you intending those words to reply to someone else?

219 posted on 08/30/2003 1:27:44 AM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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To: danmar
You surely have an opinion in there somewhere, but you're too busy busting my butt, chomp, chomp.

Lighten up and spill some of your enlightenment. I'm flexible and open.

My basic stance is that Arnold is socially liberal and I'm therefore going to put pressure on him to change, and until that time or when McClintock backs Arnold, or someone says something that makes sense enough for me to change my mind I'm for McClintock.

I've backed off some stances on this forum, but "hallucinating" or other name calling without even stating another opinion...

What good is that?

220 posted on 08/30/2003 1:33:20 AM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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