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ArnoldGovernor.net ^ | 8.29.2003 | Jagrmeister

[BradyLS]

I don't think Arnold is a "stealth" conservative. I think he is what he appears to be: a social liberal and fiscal maverick. (Who knows what he'll do?)

Since Arnold is the leading candidate, he doesn't have to state his plans for California. As long as the poles have him ahead without a strategy for the Dems to attack, why give them one?

As for can't imagining he would be better than a Democrat: that's no secret coming from me. I mean, I can't imagine how an inexperienced man in a political officewho combined with little or no plan for the state will deal with people not of his own party to get things done. The Democrats did nothing for California. And, if they can help it, the Dems will do nothing for Arnold. So I can't imagine Arnold being more effective than a Democrat in the same position.

I'd love to be proven wrong. It'd be a treat if Arnold campaigned to win the left while working in office on the right. But, how many candidate who campaign on the left go back to the right? Would Arnold be the exception to the rule and enact fiscally sound policies worthy of a genuine conservative? I'm not holding my breath.

[BradyLS]

"Okay, so there I was, waiting for Maria to get ready for a game of mixed doubles tennis. I started flipping the television dial. I caught a glimpse of Nobel Prize winning economist Milton Friedman whom I recognized from my studies in economics. I didn't know I was watching Free to Choose. It knocked me out. Dr. Friedman validated everything I ever thought about the way the economy works."

Arnold needs to get this across to the voters of California loud, clear, and often. This jibes with the OLD Arnold I've read about. It doesn't square at all with the quotes from the NEW Arnold I've been hearing about.

[BradyLS]

Prayer in school, he says he is for it,

He's for it IF the schools are for it. Since the NEA runs the schools and they're dead set against it, that means the schools are against it. Arnold may be personally for it, but the schools are against it, so h ain't gonna push it.

[Tamzee]

The OLD Arnold matches the NEW Arnold which matches the OLD Arnold :-)

This is his statement at the Economic Recovery Council press conference 8/20/03. I've transcribed this much so far, still have to finish the question/answer session. I've also stayed true to his still slightly foreign syntax.

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Well, first of all thank you for this incredible turnout. I would have wished to have had this kind of a turnout for when I did "Last Action Hero". Anyway, I want to thank first of all my co-chairs Secretary Shutlz and Warren Buffet for not only being the co-chairs but also for assembling, for helping me assemble this great team of the best and the brightest economic leaders and business leaders of California and we just finished the meeting.

When I came to California 35 years ago this was a place of great dreams. This state said to the people everywhere, come here, work hard, play by the rules and your dreams can come true. What has happened to California? What has happened to that feeling? What has happened to the optimism that this state once represented to the world?

Now I believe in my heart that we can bring that optimism back. The people of this state are working hard, they are raising their families and they are paying their taxes. Our businesses are the most innovative on the face of this earth. We still have all the elements that made us great and prosperous. We have everything we need except leadership.

In simple terms, this is the financial situation that we face. It is not that the people of California have been undertaxed, it is that the politicians have overspent. Sacramento has overspent, overtaxed and over-regulated our businesses. Our elected officials have failed the people. They have overburdened our businesses which are downsizing and leaving and the jobs are leaving with them. We want those jobs that are going to Nevada and Arizona and Texas and elsewhere to come back. We want those jobs back.

I have just met with my Economic Recovery Council to address the economic environment of California. California's economy is critical to the national economy. We must fix California's economic environment not only for ourselves, but for the rest of the nation. Businesses cannot continue to suffer under skyrocketing workers compensation costs.

The day I am sworn in, I will take action. I will call a special session of the legislature to enact reforms to correct a system that imposes unaffordable costs on our employees while denying decent benefits to our people that are injured. I will not sign a budget without workers compensation reform. Our working men and women deserve better. And our economic recovery demands and depends on reform.

The Economic Recovery Council and I discussed many other substantive issues that will be addressed in my administration: litigitation reform, regulatory reform, and the unemployment insurance fund crisis, and, without needed energey reform, California will continue to suffer the highest commercial energy costs in the nation. These critical issues must be addressed to insure the economic recovery that California so desperately needs.

Needless to say, the elephant in the room when it comes to California's economy is the state's irresponsible operating defecit and the massive debt that this government has allowed California to incur. You know, Maria and I, we teach our kids the basic principles. We teach them don't spend more money than you have. That's what I teach my 6 year old. And I promise you that is what I will teach Sacramento. We must have a constitutional spending cap. We must never again permit Sacramento to mortgage our children's future with unconstinutional deficit spending. We must immediately attack the operating deficit head on.

Now does this mean that we are going to make cuts? Yes. Does this mean education is on the table? No. Does this mean that I am willing to raise taxes? No. Additional taxes are the last burden that we need to put on the backs of the citizens and businesses of California.

One message that became loud and clear at this last meeting we just had, was that no one, not even the economic and academic leaders could figure out and make heads or tails of the state's budget. We don't know what is being spent and we don't know where.

One thing I've learned in business and that is that you can't make sound decisions based on faulty information. Upon becoming governor, I would immediately appoint an outside auditing group free of political influence to examine the books and find out how bad the situation really is. This will be a 60-day review that will result in immediate steps to address the operating deficit.

The second part of the problem is that the next governor would inherit what experts think is to be between 12 and 20 billion dollars, this is a debt separate and apart from the operating deficit. California would not be an attractive place to do business. It would not be attractive to the business or financial community as long as our credit rating is the worst in the nation. I have asked the Hoover Institute's John Cogan and mentor of my council to lead the working group charged with restructuring this inherited debt.

Now, before the carping begins about the need for the 25 point plan on each one of those items, let me make one thing clear; that these problems, these problems that I just mentioned were not created in two weeks, nor will we be able to solve those problem in two weeks and anybody that is out there and telling the people of California otherwise are just a typical politician.

The way I work is to get as many people at the table as possible, listen to opinions, think about their ideas and then I make the decision. And let me tell you something, one thing that the citizens of California can count on is that I will take action.

Thank you very much for listening and I would like now to have my two co-chairs make some comments. Again thank you very much for being a co-chair Warren, if you please make some comments before we answer some questions. Thank you very much.

http://www.cspan.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=schwarzenegger

[danmar]

You surely have an opinion in there somewhere, but you're too busy busting my butt, chomp, chomp. Lighten up and spill some of your enlightenment. I'm flexible and open. My basic stance is that Arnold is socially liberal and I'm therefore going to put pressure on him to change, and until that time

OK, I admit I was a little to fast casting epithets for I should present my apologies for.

I, as a solid Contitutionalist first, and Republican second, I want to WIN one way or another. I want Republicans across the State to win offices (State and Local levels); I am sick and tired loosing election, after election, after election in the name of some sort of "principled" crap. I WANT TO WIN, at this point one needs a magnifier glass to find any Republicans in State offices. Let's get somebody in the office and we can workout our differences along the way.

When you are coming with the idea that we first make a case about that racist mexican Bustamante and than we let the voters decide, that's the dumbest idea I have heard in a long time. Remember a good 50% of the California's eligible voters, have no clue what voting means.

That's why we ended up with the likes of Joe Davis, Boxer, Goldberg, Waxman, Stark etc. I have lost faith long time ago in the wisdom of California's voters.
Arnold is not the Pope (I will bet that even the Pope won't win the so called conservatives), but he has name recognition, a proven fiscal knowledge(at least in his business dealings), talks pretty straight, social liberal (he already admitted it) and apeals to a large spectrum of voters.

He is at least for me at about 65-70% OK-do I want him to be at a 100%?...hell yes, but there is no such a thing!

Well, I hope I made myself clear...

[Neophyte]

it is Arnold pretending to be conservative that is causing the strife

So, it's you who decides what does it mean to be a conservative, and who is a real one, and who is a pretender?

Just asking, and from a much more outside perspective then yours.

[novacation]

Hate to burst your bubble, but Arnold is going to crash and burn before the election. McClintock!

[Neophyte]

esp. how dependent he will be on his advisers.

You imply exactly what Democrats did when saying that GWB would be too dependent on his obnoxious advisers... that Arnie The Actor is dumb and incapable of leading his own policies.

Wasn't that the favourite rant about another actor, Republican, and California governor - one of the most successful American presidents Ronald Reagan?

[Princeliberty]

Reagan had been advocating clear conservative
principles for decades before he became Governor.

He did the great speech in support of Goldwater
that impressed everyone etc...

Arnold been dogging and ducking given answers
only gives the carefully prepared answers
after 10 days of meeting with advisers.
Even now he is afraid of the debates
and carefully choses when, were and how
he states anything about his beliefs.

Arnold only doing this to feed his ego
and he just going to turn the policies
over to the staff and tell them to make
him look good while he goes around
being imperial governor feeding his ego.

[Princeliberty]

Another thing Reagan sure would not have had Warren Buffet
as his chief adviser.


I thing Arnold' problem is not being dumb
but his real problem is that he lacks good
character and does not have high principles
but is driven by ego.

In other words he is a lot like Clinton!

[BradyLS]

Thanks, Tamey!

My only beef is that education should be on the table, too. But he sounds like he's talking the talk, here. He didn't say where the cuts would be made. It sounded like he made a back-handed "no new taxes" pledge, too.

[BradyLS]

I meant "Tamsey."...

[Tamzee]

I wish he could make cuts in education, too, but I'll be satisfied if he can cut waste there and reapply it elsewhere in the category that would have cost new dollars.

Anyways, there is more good news on the taxes front... The Howard Jarvis Taxpayer's Association just endorsed Schwarzenegger as the candidate they back in the recall :-) That link is below.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972242/posts

[LaraCroft]

no

[FairOpinion]

I can't help with a website, but I have a comment about the

http://www.arnoldgovernor.net/

website. I think it's great, and I like that you have a section for Arnold's endorsements. I think you may want to make it more complete.

Here is one more you may consider adding:

The endorsement by the Orange County Lincoln Club -- a bastion of powerful support for conservative candidates like former Rep. Bob "B-1" Dornan -- represents a political gold ring for the moderate Schwarzenegger..

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/08/23/MN152118.DTL

"The Lincoln Club of Orange County, which includes some of the state's top Republican donors, endorsed Schwarzenegger Friday and called on other Republican candidates to abandon the race.
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http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/ny-uscali243426597aug24,0,435871.story?coll=ny-lipolitics-print

[Roscoe]

A typical Arnold supporter.

[novacation]

So how's the weather in Michigan?What city do you live in. I want to vote in your next local election. A vote for thing-a ma-bob is a vote for what's-his-name.Hope you like being governed by you-know-who.

[Hoverbug]

Ain't that the truth!

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[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Weather here is great. We are preparing for Isabel.

I have posted this a bizillion times, but I will tell you again.

I am from California. My entire family is in California. I have a great interest in this election and it's future influence on the 2004 presidential election. I know people intimately involved in this election and my family worked to get the recall put through. I support Arnold and the GOP party.

[novacation]

I'm a racist. Anyone living in another state is a different race.That is very naughty of you to vote on an absentee ballot.