Heckofa place. Lots of old gold mining and potential uranium mining in that river. Stalin used prison slaves to mine it back in his day.
Posted on 08/29/2003 10:03:59 PM PDT by HAL9000
"The operation of help started in the zone where the submarine sunk. A sailor has until now helped summer ", declared this officer of the fleet of the nord.La sea of Barents is located in the Arctic Ocean, in the north of the Scandinavian peninsula and Western Russia.
In Yakutia suffers(bears) disaster the international expedition(dispatch)
Yakutsk. August, 30. Èíòåðôàêñ - On the river Indigirka (Yakutia) suffers(bears) disaster the international expedition(dispatch) to structure of two Norwegians, two Danes and one Russian, has informed "Èíòåðôàêñó" on Saturday in the morning a source in the government of Yakutia.
As he said, the two-engined boat on which there was an expedition(a dispatch) on the river, has sunk. However members of expedition(dispatch) had time to give a signal about disaster and to develop(unwrap) a saving raft.
" Now them carries in the Âîñòî÷íî-Siberian sea ", - the interlocutor of agency has told.
At the request of the Ministry of Emergency Measures of Yakutia of Ministry of Defence has allocated for rescue of expedition(dispatch) two helicopters MI-8 from structure of search and rescue service of air station of Tiksi, has noted a source.
a little gallows humor, but sincere prayers for the families and for the sailors trapped
At least this is more coherent than some recent NYTimes articles.
"Rescue efforts are presently under way in the area where the submarine sank. One serviceman has so far been rescued," the official said.
However, a defense ministry spokesman said there were only 10 men on board the submarine, Interfax reported.
One sailor had been rescued and the bodies of two others had been retrieved, the spokesman added.
The submarine, which sank overnight, had recently been decommissioned and was on its way to be dismantled, the northern fleet official said.
Just three years ago, the nuclear submarine Kursk sank in the Barents sea with 118 crew, who were all killed in Russia's worst naval disaster.
Come on. Didn't you see The Hunt For Red October? There were no more than 12 men on that sub toward the end of the movie. ;)
Heckofa place. Lots of old gold mining and potential uranium mining in that river. Stalin used prison slaves to mine it back in his day.
I doubt they will .. prayers to those still in the sub
According to the Press spokesman of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Nikolai Deryabin, the submarine was decommissioned from the Navy, 16 July 1989 and was based at Grenikha in reserve status. The nuclear reactor of submarine was brought into safe state and ammunition was unloaded. On 28 August in accordance with the plan it was began to be towed to the ship-repair plant in at Polyarny for performing of work on unloading of the nuclear reactor core and its subsequent utilization.
Towing of the submarine was achieved on four pontoons. On the night with 29 on 30 August under storm conditions the pontoons detached from the submarine, it lost stability and sank. One of the crew members (Maxim Tsibul'skiy) was rescued, and from the water extracted the body of two killed seamen. At present conduct the rescue forces of the northern navy - surface ships and aviation are conducting a search.
In the flooded area of submarine at present the surface ships and aviation conduct search and rescue works.
During towage in Barents sea the nuclear submarine has sunk, from 10 members of crew to rescue it was possible one
Moscow. August, 30. ÈÍÒÅÐÔÀÊÑ-ÀÂÍ - On sunk past at night in Barents sea ÀÏË "To - 159" was 10 members of crew, one of which managed to be rescued, the chief ïðåññ-has informed "Èíòåðôàêñó" on Saturday services of Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation colonel Nikolay Derjabin. Bodies of two lost military men are taken from water, it(he) has added.
Search and rescue works as forces of Northern fleet proceed.
N.Derjabin has informed, that the submarine has sunk at 4:00 Moscow time August, 30 in three miles to northwest from island Kil'din on depth of 170 meters.
" The nuclear Reactor of a submarine was given in a safe condition, áîåçàðÿäû are unloaded ", - has noted N.Derjabin.
It(he) has told, that under the order of Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation in Ñåâåðîìîðñê the commander-in-chief of the Navy Vladimir Kuroedov takes off.
The official representative of Ministry of Defence has informed, that "To - 159" was deduced(removed) from fighting structure of the Navy July, 16, 1989 and there were in item(point) of basing in settlement Gremiha pending recyclings.
August, 28 towage of a submarine on a factory " ÑÐÇ-10 " in city Polar for work on a unloading of an active zone of a nuclear reactor and the subsequent recycling was begun.
Towage of a submarine was carried out on 4 pontoons. In night with 29 for August, 30 in storm conditions has taken place îòðûâ pontoons. The submarine has lost stability and has sunk.
Meanwhile, as the military public prosecutor of Council of Federation Vladimir Molov has informed "Èíòåðôàêñó", the military Office of Public Prosecutor of Northern fleet has started investigation of incident.
APNewsAlert
MOSCOW - Russian nuclear-powered submarine sinks, at least two dead, Defense Ministry says
Russian nuclear-powered submarine sinks in Barents sea, at least two dead, seven missing
MOSCOW (AP) -- A Russian nuclear-powered submarine sank in the Barents Sea on Saturday morning, killing at least two of the 10-member crew, the Defense Ministry said.
The K-159 submarine's nuclear reactor was shut down at the time the vessel sank at about 4 a.m. about 31/2 miles northwest of Kildin Island, the Defense Ministry said. No weapons were aboard the sub, the ministry said.
One sailor was rescued, the bodies of two dead crew members were found and the fate of seven others were unknown, the ministry said.
Russia's last major submarine accident was the sinking of the Kursk on Aug. 12, 2000, also in the Barents Sea. All 118 men on board were killed.
Yup, I saw it, but....I'm also an old diesel sub sailor.
In the composition of the search and rescue forces, which conduct work on the spot of the flood APL of northern fleet "K -159" act the rescue vessels "Pamirs" and the "Altai", one aircraft An-26 and one Il-38.In the region of search are advanced rescue vessels "Rudnitskiy" and "German Titov".Directly on the spot search and rescue works leads the chief of staff of northern fleet Vice Admiral Sergey Simonenko.
So far, he's the only one.
The K-159 submarine's nuclear reactor was shut down at the time the vessel sank at about 4 a.m. about 3 1/2 miles northwest of Kildin Island, the Defense Ministry said. No weapons were aboard the sub, the ministry said.
One sailor was rescued, the bodies of two dead crew members were found and the fate of seven others were unknown, the ministry said.
The K-159, a 1960s-era attack submarine, was decommissioned on July 16, 1989.
The sub was being towed on four floating hulls from its base in the town of Gremikha to a plant in Polarnye to be scrapped.
The hulls were torn off on Friday night during a fierce storm, and the submarine sank in 560 feet of water, the ministry said.
Russian President Vladimir Putin was in Sardinia for meetings with Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. It was unclear whether he had been informed of the sub's sinking.
Russia's last major submarine accident was the sinking of the Kursk on Aug. 12, 2000, also in the Barents Sea. All 118 men on board were killed.
Needs a small correction...
This is not a big 'fleet' submarine then, must be a "research" (read: spec ops) sub.
-- Boot Hill
Our test depth was 412 feet, we went over that a couple times. I don't know what the implode depth was.
I'll say. I visited the boomer, Patrick Henry, once while in Holy Loch, Scotland. It was like night - day.
I was on the USS Jallao, SS-368
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/slbm/629.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/629.htm
It was a Golf Class Sub, built between 1959-1962. Stricken in 1992
Along with initiating development of the first experimental ballistic missile submarine under Project V-611, the governmental order of 26 January 1954 provided for the development of a diesel-powered ballistic missile submarine. On May 1954 the headquarters of the Navy assigned OKB-16 the task of developing the Golf submarines. The development of the Golf I submarine and its corresponding launch system D-2 was authorized on 11 January 1956. In March 1956 the complete technical design of the submarine was submitted to the Navy shipbuilding headquarters. Originally the new submarine was designed to carry the R-11FM missiles, which had a range of 250 km, and only 150 km when carrying a nuclear warhead. American antisubmarine defense precluded using such a short-range missile to carry out effective strikes against targets at any meaningful distance from the coastline. As the development of the submarine encountered significant delays, it was nevertheless decided to equip the first three submarines with R-11FM missiles. The basic design of the Golf submarine is based on the 641 Foxtrot, and the electromechanical installation for a surface and underwater navigation, the hydroacoustic system, the radar facilities and the radio communication systems were incorporated without change. The 629 Golf has a cylindrical pressure hull divided into eight compartments, with three missile tubes located in the fourth compartment. The large fin of the submarine contains the missiles that are stored in vertical containers directly behind the sail. The missiles are fired by raising the launch platform to the edge of the tube. Launches are conducted on the surface at a speed of up to 15 knots. The battle management system records the current flight coordinates automatically, considerably reducing the time necessary for pre-launch preparation. The pre-launch procedures are conducted underwater and take approximately one hour. Another four minutes was needed after the submarine surfaced, and a total of 12 minutes elapsed until all three missiles were fired.
US-Designation Golf I
Development began
January 1956
Design Bureau
UKB-16
Chief designer
N.N. Isanin
Builders
Nr. 402 Severodvinsk
Construction and Outfit
1958-1962
Service time
Since 1959
Number of ships
22
Armament
D-1 launch system with 3 R-11FM missiles
D-4 launch system with 3 R-21 missiles
6-533mm torpedo tubes
Power Plant
Diesel and electrical engines
Length
98.4 meters
Beam
8.2 meters
Draft
7.85 meters
Displacement
2,794 tons Surfaced
3,553 tons Submerged
Operating depth
260 meters (design)
Speed
15 knots Surface
12.5 knots Submerged
Crew
80 men
Endurance
70 days
Golf V - In 1976 one submarine ("K-153") was outfitted with a launcher to carry out tests of the R-39 missile. The submarine received the new designation Project 619.
Storms really suck. Too bad the K-159 was under tow, because being able to submerge voluntarily would have been mighty handy out there.
Here's hoping those sailors still missing surface as many times as they submerge, and may God's mercy and peace be with all these sailors and their families.
Someone in my office is telling an old joke...
Q: How do you sink a Russian submarine?
A: Put it in the water.
Should I just slap him?
HEN (Hotel-Echo-November) boats test-depth was 300 meters, say about 1000 feet. Add 25-30% for crush depth.
But since this fellow is decommissioned; there's no telling what the hull integrity is like ...
Prayers for the sailors.
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