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Posted on 08/30/2003 3:04:34 PM PDT by annyokie

This is an interesting bit of information that you don't hear much about in the media --- Certainly there is a political dimension here:

a.. Enron's chairman did meet with the president and the vice president in the Oval Office.

b.. Enron gave $420,000 to the president's party over three years.

c.. It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration festivities.

d.. The Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times.

e.. The corporation had access to the administration at its highest levels and even enlisted the Commerce and State Departments to grease deals for it.

f.. The taxpayer-supported Export-Import Bank subsidized Enron for more than $600 million in just one transaction. Scandalous!!

g.. BUT...the president under whom all this happened WASN'T George W. Bush.

h.. SURP RISE ......... It was Bill Clinton!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: bush; clinton; enron; x42

1 posted on 08/30/2003 3:04:34 PM PDT by annyokie
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To: annyokie
Nice post.
2 posted on 08/30/2003 3:07:55 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: annyokie

Do you think the Enron scandal will hurt the Bush administration?

Total Votes Cast: 16157

3 posted on 08/30/2003 3:09:07 PM PDT by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: aimhigh
Thanks!
4 posted on 08/30/2003 3:09:22 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: annyokie
Where'd you get this information?
It certainly wasn't in my kids' Weekly Reader...
5 posted on 08/30/2003 3:09:30 PM PDT by baltodog
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To: annyokie
Not that I doubt you, but do you have a citable source? It would be helpful in discussions the other side.
6 posted on 08/30/2003 3:09:54 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Between the Lines
Nice pie chart! And????????
7 posted on 08/30/2003 3:11:25 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Friend of thunder
bump for details!
8 posted on 08/30/2003 3:11:45 PM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: Friend of thunder; baltodog
Hang on while I source it for ya'll.
9 posted on 08/30/2003 3:12:55 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: annyokie
bttt
10 posted on 08/30/2003 3:14:29 PM PDT by EggsAckley (......Thank you for not excerpting..........~/;o))
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To: All
I got it from a well respected, well read and knowlegable flight comrade of my husband's.
11 posted on 08/30/2003 3:17:11 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: annyokie
bump
12 posted on 08/30/2003 3:18:53 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Has anybody seen my Incredible Hulk underwear?)
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To: annyokie
This can be found on Snopes.com and they report it as being false.

Enron End Run

13 posted on 08/30/2003 3:22:19 PM PDT by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: Between the Lines
Snopes has been wrong before and seem to take particular delight in undermining Republicans. IMO
14 posted on 08/30/2003 3:28:39 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Between the Lines
There was an article posted on WorldNet Daily (I believe) that discussed the political leanings of Snopes.com owners' and how they have treated some stories that were negative on dimocRATs and the left. It was interesting.
15 posted on 08/30/2003 3:29:35 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Peach; annyokie
Snopes has been wrong before and seem to take particular delight in undermining Republicans. IMO

I think you may be right. I read the article accompanying this and it is just down right nasty to Bush. While denying few of the claims in this article it mostly say even if it is right Bush and the GOP were worse than Clinton.

Annyokie, I am sorry for posting this and I do hope that it will not kill your thread. If you want I could get Admin to delete it.

16 posted on 08/30/2003 3:33:30 PM PDT by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: annyokie; Between the Lines
And????????

It shows how well the leftist media propaganda machine is working.

17 posted on 08/30/2003 3:36:08 PM PDT by StriperSniper (The Federal Register is printed on pulp from The Tree Of Liberty)
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To: Between the Lines
It was "reported" as false by what seems to be a DNC operative intent on ignoring the Clinton connections ...

After quoting the statement it says: "Those numbers, even if accurate, don't come close to matching what has been reported about Enron's contributions to George W. Bush and the Republican party, ..."

Uh excuse me, even "IF ACCURATE"??!? Snopes cant call something false unless they are showing it is not accurate.

18 posted on 08/30/2003 3:37:26 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: annyokie
Let's pretend to be democrats for a while and spread this around.
Heck, they'd do the same thing to us!
Wait! Wait!
Replace Enron with, ummm, Proctor and Gamble!!
19 posted on 08/30/2003 3:38:17 PM PDT by baltodog
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To: annyokie
Thanks for the enterprise. I may offer the suggestion that posting a recent article such as the following

http://newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/21/173923.shtml

and then adding your comments would solve the sourcing problem. I believe the article contains the information you posted and much more.

I searched google news section for, Enron Clinton, there were hundreds of recent stories about this -- not all of them unfriendly to BJ but there were plenty to choose from to get the truth out.

. Thanks again

20 posted on 08/30/2003 3:38:49 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Between the Lines
Don't be sorry. I welcome the input.
21 posted on 08/30/2003 3:39:16 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: StriperSniper
Just axin'. I didn't mean anything by it ; )
22 posted on 08/30/2003 3:40:06 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Thanks, sir.
23 posted on 08/30/2003 3:41:28 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: StriperSniper
Why are the President's people not getting this info out? I have heard this before; also that Ken Lay was a big supporter of the Kyoto Treaty because he could have profitied from it.
24 posted on 08/30/2003 3:42:32 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: annyokie
Just axin'.

Just observing and ranting at them thar leftists. ;-)

25 posted on 08/30/2003 3:43:01 PM PDT by StriperSniper (The Federal Register is printed on pulp from The Tree Of Liberty)
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To: Between the Lines
Snopes is good to refer to and you don't need to be sorry for posting it. I just read them with the same jaundiced eye as I do the NYT. LOL
26 posted on 08/30/2003 3:44:39 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Between the Lines
The information is either true or not. Some, at least is true. If Snopes is correct, it is better to know before we start quoting this as gospel. Nothing makes one look more foolish then loudly proclaiming untruth. If this is true evidence exists and it can be confirmed.
27 posted on 08/30/2003 3:45:25 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: annyokie
President Clinton's first vacation was his golf trip to Vail with Ken Lay of Enron in 1993.

Clinton returned to Vail in 2003 with Sharon Watkins, of Enron whistleblower fame.

28 posted on 08/30/2003 3:46:29 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Friend of thunder
We can always state, as documented fact, that Arafat was the MOST frequent visitor at the White House during the Clinton years.

It stunk in the 90's but post 9/11 and the world of terrorism, it illustrates yet another example of how impaired Clinton's judgment was.
29 posted on 08/30/2003 3:47:50 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: DLfromthedesert
Why are the President's people not getting this info out?

I would hope they are just keeping lots of dry powder on hand for when it counts. Anything now would just be smoke and noise that will be forgotten come election time. The polls are fine now, and it will be ready for a counter attack when it counts, if Rove is as good as advertised.

30 posted on 08/30/2003 3:48:50 PM PDT by StriperSniper (The Federal Register is printed on pulp from The Tree Of Liberty)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
There was an article posted on WorldNet Daily (I believe) that discussed the political leanings of Snopes.com owners' and how they have treated some stories that were negative on dimocRATs and the left. It was interesting.

Found it! And it is very interesting. Thanks.

Online Rumor Mill Spins Its Own Myth

31 posted on 08/30/2003 3:55:20 PM PDT by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: Peach
We can always state, as documented fact, that Arafat was the MOST frequent visitor at the White House during the Clinton years.

That’s only if interns do not count as visitors, right?

Seriously, I was not aware of that – I would have guessed Blair – do you have a source?

32 posted on 08/30/2003 3:57:41 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Between the Lines
Glad I could help. FReegards.
33 posted on 08/30/2003 4:00:19 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Friend of thunder
Do you have a source?

Chairman Arafat already holds the title of the administration's Most Frequent Visitor — President Clinton has held more tete-a-tetes with the Palestinian leader than any other world leader during his eight years in office.----Time Magazine

Clinton Saves Last Dance for Arafat

34 posted on 08/30/2003 4:02:43 PM PDT by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: Between the Lines
Thanks.

I suppose I should not surprised – or saddened – but I am.

35 posted on 08/30/2003 4:07:11 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: DLfromthedesert
Why aren't the President's people getting this out?

According to Bill O'Reilly, "The Democratic leadership made it quite clear to Mr. Bush that he would not get any cooperation - zero - on the part of the Democrats in the Senate and in the House if he pursued any kind of a criminal investigation against Bill Clinton."

O'Reilly said that according to his source, "Basically, they said look, if you embarrass us - by us we mean the Democratic Party - if you, Bush-Ashcroft, indict Clinton on bribery or go after Hillary or any of this - we're gonna shut you down. We're not gonna do anything. You're not going to get any [legislation] passed in four years."

NewsMax again, "O'Reilly: Bush Insider Claims Clinton Deal Torpedoed Pardongate," With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff Friday, June 21, 2002

http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2002/6/21/150930

36 posted on 08/30/2003 4:21:50 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Friend of thunder
I'm headed out so can't go find links, but it was widely reported even in the NYT and Washington Post.

It's been discussed here on FR, with links, and on the Capitol Gang, etc.
37 posted on 08/30/2003 4:23:44 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Thanks “Between the Lines” posted one.
38 posted on 08/30/2003 4:28:57 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Friend of thunder
You wouldn't need sources if you read some of the articles posted here at the time, NOT from the mainstream press. The Indian power plant was an egregious example of bribery and corruption, especially since it was just coming unraveled when the Enron scandal broke--or rather was orchestrated by the press with the obvious intention of duplicating Watergate.
39 posted on 08/30/2003 5:35:42 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
You wouldn't need sources if you read some of the articles posted here at the time,

I am no defender of Clinton, and I realize that if there were any political shenanigans regarding Enron the vast majority would have had to taken place during that administration if only because Clinton was in power for so much more of Enron’s history than Bush was. However, when specific allegations are made – irrespective of whether I want to believe them or not – it is only prudent to attempt to verify them.

I could allege that Clinton did it with a goat (I am not so alleging) with out some type of proof it would be so much chatter. Please understand, I am in no way questioning Anyokie’s credibility or honesty my concern is that information used to defend Bush or condemn Clinton is accurate; otherwise we – conservatives – appear foolish. If it is accurate, I want to be able to cite the source.

40 posted on 08/30/2003 6:23:21 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Friend of thunder
I'm feeling too lazy to dig up sources now, but it was widely reported EXCEPT in the mainstream media that Enron donated as much or more to Democrats as to Republicans.

Moreover, when Enron called for help, they did it through Robert Rubin. And the Bush Administration turned them down.
41 posted on 08/30/2003 6:57:59 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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