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"Sexually Inclusive Christians" Celebrate Victories, Push for More
Institute on Religion and Democracy ^ | Mark Tooley

Posted on 08/30/2003 5:48:16 PM PDT by xzins

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It was just a matter of time.
1 posted on 08/30/2003 5:48:17 PM PDT by xzins
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To: Revelation 911; The Grammarian; SpookBrat; Dust in the Wind; JesseShurun; maestro; patent; ...
ping to article
2 posted on 08/30/2003 5:49:58 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Okay, so now what are we going to do?
3 posted on 08/30/2003 5:50:19 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: xzins
Santorum looks like a prophet now.
4 posted on 08/30/2003 5:51:53 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Arafat must go!)
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“Free will is essential to our humanity and essential to our being created in the image of God,” Kolodny said.

Thanks for the post. I will add it to the ever growing complaint I have with the modern American Religion and her Arminian/Pelagian/Free Will soteriology.

5 posted on 08/30/2003 5:53:39 PM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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To: thoughtomator
Santorum is honest, especially given that he has to operate in Pennsylvania. It is not really a bible belt state.

Lawrence v Texas is only the beginning....only the beginning.
6 posted on 08/30/2003 5:55:00 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
They are moving being plain vanilla homosexuality to multi'partner free love bisexuality.

Didn;t take them long to start pushing for more forms of perversion, did it?

Once the Church endorses one perversion, they imply thre validity of all perversions. Political pressure and corrupted church officials will determine which perversion is holy and which remain a perversion.
7 posted on 08/30/2003 5:57:30 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (If Hillary ever takes the oath of office, she will be the last President the US will ever have. -RR)
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Debra Kolodny. She argued that having multiple sexual partners can be “holy.”

8 posted on 08/30/2003 5:57:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery)
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wacko false liberal churches three bags of vomit alert...
9 posted on 08/30/2003 5:58:39 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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Most of Kolodny’s talk was about bisexuality, not polyamory. “I disagree with the queer movement [when it claims] that sexual orientation is predetermined,” Kolodny said, asserting that the existence of bisexuality “challenges all that.” “I know a lot of women who chose to become lesbian,” Kolodny said. “Love between two people is always beautiful,” she added, and should be regarded as part of free choice. “I’m not sure we can make the case for genetic predetermination,” Kolodny stressed, saying sexual preference depends on opportunity, support, and spiritual experiences.

What precedes and follows it isn't really pretty, either. They throw the "genetic" argument out the window because they know that their position is "if it feels good do it" with however many you like.

Let you libido go go....

10 posted on 08/30/2003 6:00:55 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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“Free will is essential to our humanity and essential to our being created in the image of God,” Kolodny said. She charged that denying free choice in sex preference was “perpetuating the hetero-patriarchy,” helping the “radical right,” ignoring bisexuality, and making it easier for “hate” to continue.

Libertarian free will used to justify autonomous human behavior. The Creator of the universe finds their behavior to be an abomination. Do they care? No. They create an idol in their own image instead of submitting to the revelation of God.

11 posted on 08/30/2003 6:02:44 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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But after suffering for years from a desire to be a woman, Swenson finally divorced and had the operation. “I don’t recommend that any one become transgender,” Swenson said. “It’s a very painful process.”

UNDERSTATEMENT of the millennium!
12 posted on 08/30/2003 6:02:59 PM PDT by BabaOreally
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The "gay" churches ALREADY use the words "bi-sexual and trans-sexual" when they speak of "inclusiveness and justice."

Bi-sexuality MUST by definition allow for at least 2 other partners for the bi-sexual. It is a subset of polyamory, so it's natural that polyamory come up for approval by these folks.

13 posted on 08/30/2003 6:03:44 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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Kolodny said polyamory does not usually involve simultaneous group sex. But there are exceptions . . .

Ah, so Arnold is really just another person of faith! Isn't the (Mystical) Body way cool???

14 posted on 08/30/2003 6:04:05 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: BenLurkin; cyborg
You've nailed it...both of you

I'd add "evil" to your definition. I'm beyond believing that these people are just misguided or unaware.

15 posted on 08/30/2003 6:05:19 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: BenLurkin
Excuse me but put in 'christian boylover' into google and you will come up with the most 'eyeopening' and twisted things do with their christian faith (and justify their rank sin).



16 posted on 08/30/2003 6:06:30 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: xzins
“Where in religion did we get the idea that some people are more worthy than others?” she wondered.

Maybe the whole Heaven/Hell thing is related in some small way to those concepts. Not that where your eternal soul is going to spend eternity is all that important to the Christian religion. I can see how these people could be confused.

17 posted on 08/30/2003 6:08:01 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xzins
It is worse than I had thought out there.
18 posted on 08/30/2003 6:08:24 PM PDT by MarMema
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Cervone, with her same-sex partner at her side, wondered how many “nameless men and women” must die before this country moves beyond tolerance to freedom for all people.

All of the people I have ever met had a name. I wonder where she finds these nameless people. It must be really hard to get a job, buy a car, or collect social security without a name. I guess being tolerant of namelessness just isn't good enough.

19 posted on 08/30/2003 6:10:41 PM PDT by stripes1776
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There is no doubt that the free will argument can be misused, even abused.

Especially by sinful, unsaved humans.
20 posted on 08/30/2003 6:11:27 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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