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Groups united against trade pact
The Palm Beach Post ^ | Saturday, August 30, 2003 | Susan Salisbury

Posted on 08/31/2003 9:18:30 AM PDT by Willie Green

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Deborah Smith remembers seeing the crazed-looking protesters at the 1999 World Trade Organization meeting in Seattle on television.

"They looked like a bunch of young punk rockers," said Smith, a Jupiter Farms resident. "I didn't understand what it was about."

Now, the 45-year-old former high school history teacher and secretary is becoming one of them. Not a punk rocker but a free-trade protester of the nonviolent sort.

She's heading Stop FTAA Palm Beach County/Treasure Coast, a recently formed coalition of six groups such as the Sierra Club and the Green Party who oppose the proposed Free Trade Area of the Americas. The pact would turn 34 nations in the Americas and the Caribbean into a giant free-trade zone.

The Free Trade Area of the Americas ministerial meeting in Miami Nov. 20-21 is expected to attract anywhere from 20,000 to 100,000 protesters, according to estimates from the U.S. Trade Representative's Office and the summit's Miami organizers.

Smith and her group are making plans to go to Miami on buses with a projected 10,000 people from Palm Beach County and the Treasure Coast's AFL-CIO and other organizations.

"This is becoming very mainstream," Smith said. "The people protesting this don't normally protest. These are middle-aged working families concerned about jobs and public services, water, education and critical services they do not want to see privatized."

Stop FTAA is working on costumes, posters and giant puppet heads of President Bush, other world leaders and corporate chiefs to take to the Miami protest.

Formed in May with 30 core members, Stop FTAA is having its kickoff event on Labor Day at Carlin Park in Jupiter.

Wil Van Natta, a longtime political activist and 48-year-old lifeguard on Palm Beach County's beaches, plans to swim 12 miles from the Lake Worth Inlet to the beach at Carlin to draw attention to the cause.

"It is America at stake right now," said Van Natta, a union member who, if his mini-marathon is successful will be greeted by attendees of an AFL-CIO picnic.

Two large Florida industries, citrus and sugar, have launched campaigns against provisions of the trade pact. Citrus growers say that if they lose current tariffs on foreign orange juice, particularly from Brazil, they won't be able to compete. Sugar interests say their industry could be ruined by any increase in foreign sugar imports.

Protests of trade pacts and globalization are nothing new, said Antonio Villamil, vice chairman of Florida FTAA Inc., which is organizing the November meeting and wants Miami to become the permanent secretariat of the Free Trade Area of the Americas after its expected signing in 2005.

"Everybody needs to be heard in terms of their perspectives," Villamil said.

The University of Miami's North-South Center is coordinating workshops Nov. 17-19, at which people who have concerns about the trade pact will be able to express their opinions "under the rule of law," Villamil said.

For Stop FTAA members, those opinions are sharper than they used to be. Pat Scanlon, 51, of Lake Park is a retired schoolteacher who learned about the trade pact when she attended a Leesburg retreat run by Pax Christi, a Catholic peace and social justice group.

"I did not know what went on with NAFTA and the FTAA," Scanlon said. "Now it is horrifying me, and it is scaring me to death.... The whole purpose of FTAA is that corporations make a profit at the expense of the people."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: freetrade; ftaa; globalism; nafta; thebusheconomy

But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

~Karl Marx, "On the Question of Free Trade" - January 9, 1848


1 posted on 08/31/2003 9:18:30 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
To sum up, what is free trade, what is free trade under the present condition of society? It is freedom of capital. When you have overthrown the few national barriers which still restrict the progress of capital, you will merely have given it complete freedom of action. So long as you let the relation of wage labor to capital exist, it does not matter how favorable the conditions under which the exchange of commodities takes place, there will always be a class which will exploit and a class which will be exploited. It is really difficult to understand the claim of the free-traders who imagine that the more advantageous application of capital will abolish the antagonism between industrial capitalists and wage workers. On the contrary, the only result will be that the antagonism of these two classes will stand out still more clearly.

Gentlemen! Do not allow yourselves to be deluded by the abstract word _freedom_. Whose freedom? It is not the freedom of one individual in relation to another, but the freedom of capital to crush the worker.

Why should you desire to go on sanctioning free competition with this idea of freedom, when this freedom is only the product of a state of things based upon free competition?

We have shown what sort of brotherhood free trade begets between the different classes of one and the same nation. The brotherhood which free trade would establish between the nations of the Earth would hardly be more fraternal. To call cosmopolitan exploitation universal brotherhood is an idea that could only be engendered in the brain of the bourgeoisie. All the destructive phenomena which unlimited competition gives rise to within one country are reproduced in more gigantic proportions on the world market. We need not dwell any longer upon free trade sophisms on this subject, which are worth just as much as the arguments of our prize-winners Messrs. Hope, Morse, and Greg

If the free-traders cannot understand how one nation can grow rich at the expense of another, we need not wonder, since these same gentlemen also refuse to understand how within one country one class can enrich itself at the expense of another.

But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

Marx's speech appeared in French, in Brussels, in early February 1848; translated into German the same year and published in Germany by Joseph Weydemeyer -- friend of Marx and Engels.
2 posted on 08/31/2003 9:24:25 AM PDT by KDD
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To: Willie Green
He was wrong Willie.

So are you and Pat.
3 posted on 08/31/2003 9:25:17 AM PDT by KDD
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Faulty Syllogism:
Logical Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle


Definition: The middle term in the premises of a standard form categorical syllogism never refers to all of the members of the category it describes.

Examples:

1. Marx was in favor of free-trade, and someone else is in favor of free-trade, therefore that person is a Marxist.

The middle term is "free-trader." While "Marx" and "someone else" share the property of being free-traders, it doesn't follow that the someone in question is a Marxist; he may be a libertarian.

2. All Russians were revolutionists, and all anarchists were revolutionist, therefore all anarchists were Russians.

The middle term is "revolutionist." While both "Russians" and "anarchists" share the common property of being revolutionist, they may be separate groups of revolutionists, and so we cannot conclude that anarchists are otherwise the same as Russians in any way. Example from Copi and Cohen, 208.

Proof: Show how each of the two categories identified in the conclusion could be separate groups even though they share a common property.

4 posted on 08/31/2003 9:34:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Anyone who reads that entire speech and concludes that Marx was an advocate of free trade as the cornerstone of any political system suffers from reality dis-connect.
5 posted on 08/31/2003 9:40:24 AM PDT by KDD
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To: KDD
Free Trade as put together at present is nothing but destructive to our sovereignty and constitution as well as our culture, heritage, and history. I'm not that money hungry that I would throw everything away in order to worship manna.
6 posted on 08/31/2003 9:56:20 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: KDD
How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
--Ronald Reagan, September 25, 1987

Setting aside the issue of whether or not someone "understands" the greater context of Marx's remarks, that quote that Willie adores so much contains the pesky clause, "It is in this revolutionary sense alone . . . ." Seeing that a proletarian revolution is not what free-traders seek, use of that quote to suggest that free-traders are somehow Marxist in their beliefs should cause most sentient humans to burst-out in laughter.

7 posted on 08/31/2003 9:59:58 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Seeing that a proletarian revolution is not what free-traders seek, use of that quote to suggest that free-traders are somehow Marxist in their beliefs should cause most sentient humans to burst-out in laughter.

You'd think so wouldn't you? But proponets of protectionism trot out that quote out of context as if to imply that that free trade is is a marxist construct when it actually is just the opposite. They fool some of the people. I don't know why I feel compelled to point out the obvious. Might have something to do with my lack of faith in our socialist edu. system.

8 posted on 08/31/2003 10:24:23 AM PDT by KDD
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To: KDD
The funniest comment I've gotten so far when I point-out that this false attribution is a logical fallacy piled on top of a fundamental mis-reading is 'What you are saying doesn't apply.' As if . . . .
9 posted on 08/31/2003 10:33:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Lenora Fulani, an avowed Marxist, teaming up with "conservative protectionist" Pat Buchanan in a run for the White House and you'd think some people would get a clue. Yet they still want to advocate a system that has proven to be the biggest economic failure in history. I have only this to say to them...Miami is not Seattle. Wreck one downtown Cuban buisness and the Miami police will be the least of their worries. They'll see protectionism in action.
10 posted on 08/31/2003 10:51:43 AM PDT by KDD
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To: Willie Green
She's heading Stop FTAA Palm Beach County/Treasure Coast, a recently formed coalition of six groups such as the Sierra Club and the Green Party...

Although you are fond of posting that statement by Karl Marx made 155 years ago, the fact that the above groups oppose free trade today should tell you that it must be good for America or they wouldn't object. Are you proud to be associated wih the Green Party, the Sierra Club, et al.?

13 posted on 08/31/2003 2:48:18 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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