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Ed Gillespie the RNC chairman has said Republicans aren't still for limited government...
Rrush Limbaugh | 9/2/2003 | the Unveiled Lady

Posted on 09/02/2003 10:20:18 AM PDT by The UnVeiled Lady

Rush was just talking about the RNC Chairman who was interviewed in the Baltimore paper and he has said that the Republican party is no longer for limited government. Now the party will take a poll of what the people want and then will throw money at that special interest.

Let's give this guy a poll!!!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
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To: Redbob
Doesn't matter what was said - judge them by what they DO!

Yep like pushing tax cuts, killing Kyoto and the International Court, getting a PBA ban through in the next month, relaxing Carter era enviromental standards, etc. etc.

41 posted on 09/02/2003 11:41:58 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Redbob
Dept. of Fatherland Security

*chuckle*

42 posted on 09/02/2003 11:43:41 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: The UnVeiled Lady
Let's give this guy a poll!!!

No, how about a punch in the nose. What a schmuck. I thought he would be an improvement over homo-loving Racicot. I guess I was wrong--just like Bill Frist is no better than Lott, and perhaps worse.

43 posted on 09/02/2003 11:44:37 AM PDT by montag813
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To: TBP
The article was written after a meeting between the Union Leader editorial board and Gillespie, based on what he said

And not one quote. This was written by an editorial writer from a paper, that as stated earlier on this thread that endorsed McCain in 2000.

44 posted on 09/02/2003 11:44:43 AM PDT by Dane
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To: rwfromkansas
Why hasn't Gillespie come forth and denied this?

The editorial board met with him and reported what he said (as they understood it.) He hasn't denied it.

It's not news anyway. It's what the Republicans have been doing for a long time. At least Gillepsie is honest enough to admit it.
45 posted on 09/02/2003 11:44:46 AM PDT by TBP
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To: All
Sigh, it's true
46 posted on 09/02/2003 11:48:54 AM PDT by luckydevi
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To: TBP
The editorial board met with him and reported what he said (as they understood it.) He hasn't denied it.

Huh I guess we have a "new" understanding of the word hyperbole.

The NYT and the Manchester Union-Leader both use it. They are in the press, why give the hyperbole by the editorial board any credibility.

JMO, but this was a cry of cheap publicity by the Manchester Union-Leader and Rush took the bait.

47 posted on 09/02/2003 11:51:38 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Redbob
"It's not merely Gillespies' quote, or alleged quote: it's this entire administration's legislative agenda, from the Dept. of Fatherland Security to the "No Child Left Behind" invasion of state educational systems."

Not to mention the steel traiffs, a farm bill that spends more than ever, apologizing to the Red Chinese for letting them shoot down our airplane, attacking conservatives for "balancing the budget on the backs of the poor," defending Affirmative Action, agreeing to the uncosntitutional McVain-Whinegold campaign finance deform bill, and the largest budget in American history.

Other than the war on terror and a penny-ante tax cut, what have Republicans done? They have increased government. They are acting like Democrats. At least Gillespie is honest enough to admit it.

But the whole basis for the two-party system is the idea that the two parties provide meaningful alternative policies. What are we to do when they don't? Shouldn't at least one major party stand for conservative, limited-government principles?

I'm not a Libertarian, but I'll say this much for them: They do stand for limited government, which is more than I can say for Republicans.

If conservatives would rally around the Constitution party or some similar entity and vote for it, we would stand a chance of having a significant party that stands for our principles, not mee-tooism.
48 posted on 09/02/2003 11:53:25 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Dane
The Union Leader editors heard what he said. It's paraphrased, but they merely reported it.
49 posted on 09/02/2003 11:54:38 AM PDT by TBP
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To: cksharks
The Union Leader endorsed Forbes, not McCain in 2000.

50 posted on 09/02/2003 11:55:57 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Inconceivable!)
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To: B Knotts
Right about what exactly? Do you have any quotes?
51 posted on 09/02/2003 11:57:50 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Inconceivable!)
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To: TBP
The Union Leader editors heard what he said. It's paraphrased, but they merely reported it

IMO, the Union-Leader wrote what they wanted to hear and used the old journalistic trick of having no quotes and went directly over Gillespie's head, to make a cry for cheap publicity.

BTW, how many times do you(TBP) beat your wife?

No need for you to respond, just using Union-Leader tactics.

52 posted on 09/02/2003 12:00:01 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Redbob
The Department of Homeland Security passed through Congress on a bi-partisan vote and the vast majority of American's approve of that move by the Bush adminstartion. Remember, while the move to create the DHS was a huge undertaking, it was after all, just a restructuring and merging of exisitng agencies.

Also, the Bush agenda on child education is in sync with the GOP platform and something the President ran on in 2000. So lets not act like this is something brand new to attack Bush over.

I'm disappointed with the increases in non-military related, discretionary spending and look forward to that serious problem being tackled in a second Bush-Ceheney term. Spending must be brought under control by Congress and this administration has to apply more pressure to House and Senate members. And Bush must start using his veto pen, whenever necessary.

53 posted on 09/02/2003 12:31:34 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Dane
Newt Gingrich’s Contract With America, which elected the first Republican Congress in 40 years?

That was Ed Gillespie’s handiwork. He drafted the document.

Hard to believe he's made such an abrupt turn-around.
54 posted on 09/02/2003 12:32:52 PM PDT by KDD
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To: Gritty
Maybe I need to take a closer look at the Constitution Party. I would rather vote with a loser I agree with than vote with a loser I disagree with!

I'm with you, Gritty. Been thinking along these lines for quite awhile now. Seems like the GOP has just picked up where the Dem Party of old used to be. A truly conservative, constitutionally-bound, committed party is what we really need today...to begin cleaning up the messes left by the current two (failing) political parties. Just IMHO....

55 posted on 09/02/2003 12:42:46 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: The UnVeiled Lady
Maybe he's just stating the obvious. Look at all the hoopla over Arnold. Unfortunately, RINO's rule...at least for now.
56 posted on 09/02/2003 12:48:21 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: The UnVeiled Lady
Everybody on here vehemently defending the indefensible GOP better wake up soon.

You can state over and over that there's no quotes of him or other GOP "saying" anything about not being for smaller government anymore,...but frankly,...I don't care what they SAY. It's their actions I watch. ...And by their actions,...they are consistently PROVING that they have no interest in smaller government.

This train has left the station without me. ...I'm glad it has. I, too, am going to be taking a closer look at the conservative third parties that best represent my CONSERVATIVE beliefs!

57 posted on 09/02/2003 12:58:33 PM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: Dane
I love my fellow ocnservatives. The Union Leader is the newspaper of the Loeb family, the one that helped elect conservative politicians like Melfrim Thomson, Bob Smith, and others, and now that it runs an article saying that the Republicans essentially admit to being a Big Government party (which they are), it's a "liberal rag."

This is just the kind of thing we rightly criticize liberals for.

58 posted on 09/02/2003 1:19:48 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Reagan Man
Looks like Rush did overreact

Well so did I :( - I e-mailed the chairman as to bigger government and I also said that the President has been bushwhacked by Ted Kennedy as well as others and that he should bring the hammer down and go to work for the people and NOT Washington, DC.

Can't hurt........

59 posted on 09/02/2003 1:23:26 PM PDT by yoe
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To: TBP
politicians like Melfrim Thomson, Bob Smith

Oh you mean the Bob Smith, who left the Pubbies in 99, and came crawling back, and then supported the demos with their opposition to drilling in ANWR, that Bob Smith.

60 posted on 09/02/2003 1:35:27 PM PDT by Dane
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