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Collar Key In Deliveryman Death (Erie pizza delivery bank robbery bomber)
CBS/AP ^ | 9-2-2003 | no byline

Posted on 09/02/2003 11:44:52 AM PDT by weegee

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To: lilylangtree
Looks like handcuffs for the neck or I guess you could say neckcuffs.
22 posted on 09/02/2003 12:06:22 PM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: lelio
that probably means me put it on

Er, that should be "probably means he [ the bomb wearer ] put it on" if the keyhole is on the bottom.
23 posted on 09/02/2003 12:06:54 PM PDT by lelio
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To: JLS
"Instead they hid behind patrol cars???????"

...and you would have....what? Held his hand through the ordeal?

25 posted on 09/02/2003 12:07:57 PM PDT by Hatteras (All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand...)
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To: Ole Okie
I remember Andy Gump. He probably could have contorted his head and gotten out of the collar. I don't think he had a lower jaw.


28 posted on 09/02/2003 12:11:11 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
Here's a Columbian bomb collar someone mentioned on FR not too long ago:


Suspected FARC guerrillas detonated a collar bomb
they attached to dairy farmer Elvia Cortes, age 55,
on May 16, 2000, after she refused to pay a $7,500
extorsion.

29 posted on 09/02/2003 12:11:14 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"It was lacking the 'Made in the Gaza Strip' label."

That ran through my mind too.

30 posted on 09/02/2003 12:12:02 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: weegee
I lOVE the brave police/FBI training their guns on him so he would die alone while begging for help.

to Serve & protect? WHO?

31 posted on 09/02/2003 12:13:59 PM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: LibWhacker
Colombian?
32 posted on 09/02/2003 12:14:56 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Hatteras
What does "to protect and serve" mean to you? The guy is pleading to get out of the thing.

Another article said that the bomb squad typically doesn't disarm live bombs, they generally detonate suspected bombs.

I haven't heard any details saying that the trigger would have blown if the collar had been cut. Blowtorch was out of the question, bolt cutters wouldn't work of the collar itself (although there was a shelf that the bomb rested on).

33 posted on 09/02/2003 12:15:40 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Aussie Cattledog
Looks to me like it was fashioned from some factory parts. Why would they go to the trouble of painting it otherwise?

I'd start looking at Jesse James and his Monster Garage crews.......;^)

34 posted on 09/02/2003 12:18:39 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: LibWhacker
Such bombs have been successfully disarmed (and that one appears to be more complicated). The time to disarm may not have been available though:

Police defuse necklace bomb

Police have disarmed a collar bomb placed around the neck of a Venezuelan man by Colombian rebels trying to extort money from him.

It took several hours for Colombian and Venezuelan secret agents to disarm the bomb around the neck of Jesus Orlando Guerrero, 65, a ranch owner from the western frontier state of Tachira.

Three armed men forced the bomb around Guerrero's neck on Monday night, attacking him on his cattle ranch six miles from the Colombian border.

The attackers threatened to detonate the bomb in 72 hours unless they received the equivalent of £113,000.

The bomb was constructed out of a galvanised tube filled with C-4 explosives. It was painted gold with the words FARC-EP, an acronym standing for the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, Colombia's largest rebel army.

© Associated Press

Story filed: 18:34 Tuesday 1st July 2003


35 posted on 09/02/2003 12:22:29 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
"What does "to protect and serve" mean to you? The guy is pleading to get out of the thing."

They protected all the rest of the citizenry around him. Best they could do under the circumstances. This ain't Miami Vice here. Sonny Crockett and Ricardo Tubbs ain't gonna slide in and make a last second choice between the red wire and the blue wire as the clock reaches zero. In case you haven't been paying attention, THIS is reality. Get used to it.

36 posted on 09/02/2003 12:26:55 PM PDT by Hatteras (All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand...)
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To: Hatteras
The bombsquad are supposed to be made of sterner stuff than the guy who writes speeding tickets.

They didn't even get there in time.

37 posted on 09/02/2003 12:30:00 PM PDT by weegee
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To: steplock
I lOVE the brave police/FBI training their guns on him so he would die alone while begging for help.

&&&

And how were they supposed to know whether or not he was telling the truth? I would have assumed that it was a setup to kill a lot of policemen. (And maybe it was.) What would you have done in their place?
38 posted on 09/02/2003 12:30:29 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not wring or twist.)
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To: Hatteras
They protected all the rest of the citizenry around him.

&&

Thank you. Excellent answer. It's funny how these people who hate policeman expect the cops have super human powers. Bionic maybe?
39 posted on 09/02/2003 12:33:08 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not wring or twist.)
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To: weegee
The FBI has released this sketch of the bomber.
40 posted on 09/02/2003 12:39:05 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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