Bush haters are real, and ugly -- real ugly

The Hill ^ | 09/03/03 | BYRON YORK

[bedolido]

Do you think George W. Bush is a Nazi? That his family and close advisers are Nazis, too? If so, then you’ll feel right at home in the growing ranks of hard-core Bush haters.

Go to the left-wing website Counterpunch.org and you’ll find this: “It’s going a bit far to compare the Bush of 2003 to the Hitler of 1933,” writes a man named Dave Lindorff (who has written for The Nation and Salon and has appeared on National Public Radio).

“Bush is simply not the orator that Hitler was. But comparisons of the Bush administration’s fear-mongering tactics to those practiced so successfully and with such terrible results by Hitler and Goebbels on the German people and their Weimar Republic are not at all out of line.”

Click to another site, the antiwar Takebackthemedia.com.

“The media will not tell you of the Bush family Nazi association,” says a Web movie that features photos of George W. Bush alongside photos of Adolf Hitler, along with stern warnings about the coming Bush Reich.

Then go to Fearbush.com, where you can download images of Bush in front of a giant swastika.

Does that seem like fringe stuff? Well, first remember that Counterpunch.org boasts 60,000 visitors a month. Takebackthemedia.com attracted some mainstream attention in coverage of the antiwar movement.

And then check out a slightly bigger publication: Vanity Fair.

Page 146 of the September issue of the magazine features a letter from a reader who noticed something interesting about a photograph of Bush administration military adviser Richard Perle in a previous issue.

The photograph reminded the reader of a famous Alfred Eisenstaedt photograph of Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels.

“Here it is: the same arrogance, the same malice toward the photographer, the same all-around creepiness,” the letter said. “Perle isn’t the first government official to use deceit and fear-mongering to force an extremist, irrational and ultimately violent view on an entire nation, or globe.”

The interesting thing is not that some people have such thoughts. The interesting thing is that the editors of Vanity Fair found the argument so compelling that they printed the letter in a special box with the Perle and Goebbels photos side by side.

But maybe all the Nazi stuff is a bit much for you.

If so, stop by Bushbodycount.com, where you will learn that the president and his family have been involved in dozens of “mysterious” deaths.

“This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have been called witnesses had they not met their untimely ends,” the site says. The list includes all sorts of names — and even suggests that the elder George Bush might have had something to do with the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

At Bushbodycount.com you’ll also learn about something known on the Internet as the BFEE, or Bush Family Evil Empire. The bottom line: These Bushes are very, very bad people.

And if you tire of reading about how vicious the president is, you can take a break — and read how stupid he is.

Stop by Presidentmoron.com. And Bushisamoron.com. And Toostupidtobepresident.com. You’ll get the idea.

All that might seem not worth taking seriously were it not for the fact that similar stuff was taken quite seriously during the Clinton years.

Remember “The Clinton Chronicles,” the 1994 video that attempted to implicate Bill Clinton in all sorts of “unsolved” deaths? Remember the “Clinton Body Count” lists? Remember the stories of the president’s connections to drug running?

During those years, scurrilous stories about Bill Clinton were widely condemned in the press.

The Clinton White House did its part to help.

For example, in her famous “vast right-wing conspiracy” appearance on the “Today” show in 1998, then-first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton complained about administration opponents “accusing my husband of committing murder, of drug running.”

You might also remember that in 1995 the Clinton White House produced a 311-page study titled “Communication Stream of Conspiracy Commerce,” which purported to show how anti-Clinton stories made their way from the Internet (among other sources) to the mainstream press.

At the time, the Clinton White House sought to stigmatize the opposition by branding anyone who opposed the first lady’s healthcare plan or who thought Whitewater was a legitimate inquiry as Clinton haters.

They weren’t, just as now, people who simply dislike the president’s tax cut or don’t approve of the war in Iraq are not Bush haters.

But there are genuine Bush haters out there — an extensive, aggressive network of them.

Only so far, the press has seemed less interested in their work than in the previous administration.

But pay attention to what you see and read at Counterpunch.org, Bushbodycount.com, Presidentmoron.com and Vanity Fair.

An election is coming up. Things will undoubtedly get rough. And you’ll be seeing more and more of the Bush haters.

Byron York is a White House correspondent for National Review. His column appears in The Hill each Wednesday. E-mail: byork@thehill.com

[mr_snoopy]

Who is the ugliest Bush hater? Is it Eleanor Clift?

[Phantom Lord]

The Loons over at DU must be very upset they didn't get a mention in this.

[Phantom Lord]

Who is the ugliest Bush hater? Is it Eleanor Clift?

Eleanor Clift is a beauty queen compared to Helen Thomas. She is without a doubt, the ugliest of the Bush haters.

[JohnGalt]

Byron York, still finding a way to take shots at his old 'Clinton Hating' publishers at the American Spectator-- the greatest of all Clinton Era magazines.

[grumple]

I saw Brit Hume just last week interviewing some guy who mentioned all of these websites and others in some puff piece disguised as newsworthy...I was disappointed in Fox period...this "newsworthy" piece did nothing but advertise (promote) these sites to millions of viewers, which is preceisely what the guy being interviewed wanted to happen...Brit was either fooled or Fox news knows exactly what it's doing by using the media to promote this kind of garbage.

[Piquaboy]

I have no desire to go to a web site to see what a bunch of idiots have written. Stupid is as stupid does.

[Maringa]

Yesterday I watched ABC news....first time I have watched mainstream news in over a year...tend to read the news vs. see it...It was 24/7 non-stop criticism of Bush and his policies. I'll have to admit that there were some good points addressed, however it was obvious the contempt they have for the man. We've got about a year and three months before elections...and they haven't even started to bash him like I expect them to. It's going to be a long year...I could never be president!!!

[NativeNewYorker]

Hatred of W is as close to a religion now as you can find on the US left.

[xzins]

The Nazi's were part of the socialist movement.

The Democrats have a huge number who are now part of the socialist movement. Liberalism is socialism.

Conservatives and Republicans reject socialism.

George Bush is a moderately conservative Republican.

Therefore, Bush isn't possibly a Nazi, while Democrats, on the other hand, are part of the same movement.

[driftless]

Ha ha, you're right about that. The far-left as typified by DU is positively deranged about Bush. Even though he's hardly the most conservative Republican ever. Bush has even tried to mollify many liberals in Congress to no effect. They still hate him to proving you can't make friends with snakes.

[Gabrielle Reilly]

Well I feel more honored to be going to an event to see him tomorrow than the apprehension I had when he was first elected. He has done a fine job!

[finnman69]

Bwahahahahaha. Although the bush haters behind takebackthemedia pimp their site out at DUmmyland all the time to con them into contributing them money. Lot's of gullible types over there.

[Skooz]

You're using logic.

Logic in anathema to the loony left.

[finnman69]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/630472/posts

A Little Secret About the Nazis (They were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today)

A Little Secret About the Nazis
They were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist, and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists -- particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape, and the time has come to expose it.

Richard Poe, editor of Frontpage Magazine, sets the record straight:

Nazism was inspired by Italian Fascism, an invention of hardline Communist Benito Mussolini. During World War I, Mussolini recognized that conventional socialism wasn't working. He saw that nationalism exerted a stronger pull on the working class than proletarian brotherhood. He also saw that the ferocious opposition of large corporations made socialist revolution difficult. So in 1919, Mussolini came up with an alternative strategy. He called it Fascism. Mussolini described his new movement as a ``Third Way'' between capitalism and communism. As under communism, the state would exercise dictatorial control over the economy. But as under capitalism, the corporations would be left in private hands.

Hitler followed the same game plan. He openly acknowledged that the Nazi party was ``socialist'' and that its enemies were the ``bourgeoisie'' and the ``plutocrats'' (the rich). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler eliminated trade unions, and replaced them with his own state-run labor organizations. Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler hunted down and exterminated rival leftist factions (such as the Communists). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler waged unrelenting war against small business.

Hitler regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so in speech after speech. Karl Marx believed likewise. In his essay, ``On the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation. Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps.

The Nazis are widely known as nationalists, but that label is often used to obscure the fact that they were also socialists. Some question whether Hitler himself actually believed in socialism, but that is no more relevant than whether Stalin was a true believer. The fact is that neither could have come to power without at least posing as a socialist. And the constant emphasis on the fact that the Nazis were nationalists, with barely an acknowledgment that they were socialists, is as absurd as labeling the Soviets ``internationalists'' and ignoring the fact that they were socialists (they called themselves the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics). Yet many who regard ``national'' socialism as the scourge of humanity consider ``international'' socialism a benign or even superior form of government.

According to a popular misconception, the Nazis must have been on the political right because they persecuted communists and fought a war with the communists in Russia. This specious logic has gone largely unchallenged because it serves as useful propaganda for the left, which needs ``right-wing'' atrocities to divert attention from the horrific communist atrocities of the past century. Hence, communist atrocities have received much less publicity than Nazi war crimes, even though they were greater in magnitude by any objective measure.

R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii documents in his book Death by Government that the two most murderous regimes of the past century were both communist: communists in the Soviet Union murdered 62 million of their own citizens, and Chinese communists killed 35 million Chinese citizens. The Nazi socialists come in third, having murdered 21 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others. Additional purges occurred in smaller communist hellholes such as Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Ethiopia, and Cuba, of course. Communism does more than imprison and impoverish nations: it kills wholesale. And so did ``national socialism'' during the Nazi reign of terror.

But the history of the past century has been grossly distorted by the predominantly left-wing media and academic elite. The Nazis have been universally condemned -- as they obviously should be -- but they have also been repositioned clear across the political spectrum and propped up as false representatives of the far right -- even though Hitler railed frantically against capitalism in his infamous demagogic speeches. At the same time, heinous crimes of larger magnitude by communist regimes have been ignored or downplayed, and the general public is largely unaware of them. Hence, communism is still widely regarded as a fundamentally good idea that has just not yet been properly ``implemented.'' Santayana said, ``Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'' God help us if we forget the horrors of communism and get the historical lessons of Nazism backwards.

The Nazis also had something else in common with the modern left: an obsessive preoccupation with race. Hitler and his Nazis considered races other than their own inferior, of course. Modern ``liberals,'' who vociferously oppose the elimination of racial quotas, seem to agree. They apparently believe that non-white minorities (excluding Asians, of course) are inferior and unable to compete in the free market without favoritism mandated by the government. Whereas Hitler was hostile to those racial minorities, however, modern white ``liberals'' condescend benevolently. Hitler's blatant and virulent form of racism was eradicated relatively quickly and very forcefully, but the more subtle and insidious racism of the modern left has yet to be universally recognized and condemned.

The media often focuses its microscope on modern neo-nazi lunatics, but the actual scope of the menace is relatively miniscule, with perhaps a few thousand neo-nazis at most in the United States (mostly ``twenty-something'' know-nothings). The number of communists and communist sympathizers in the United States dwarfs that figure, of course -- even among tenured professors! And while the threat of neo-nazi terrorism is indeed serious, the chance of neo-nazis gaining any kind of legitimate political power anywhere is virtually zero. That is why the ACLU can safely use them to advertise its supposed commitment to free speech. Neo-nazi rallies incite violence, but they do not persuade bystanders to join their cause! If they did, the ACLU would have nothing to do with them.

--1/02

[.cnI redruM]

The paranoia is out there. The scary thing about liberals is that they can go several days only talking to other liberals. They live in their own little world. It's like a perverted monastary of some sort.

[xzins]

Excellent post.

You should put this up every month or so. America needs a constant reminder.

[Skooz]

Quite true.

If one would read Hitler's speeches from the time he began leading the NSDAP until he became Chancellor, one would see that Hitler railed against the "Wall Street capitalists" almost as much as the Jews. In his deranged view, both communism and capitalism were Jewish conspiracies.

[Arrowhead1952]

All that might seem not worth taking seriously were it not for the fact that similar stuff was taken quite seriously during the Clinton years.

Remember “The Clinton Chronicles,” the 1994 video that attempted to implicate Bill Clinton in all sorts of “unsolved” deaths? Remember the “Clinton Body Count” lists? Remember the stories of the president’s connections to drug running?

During those years, scurrilous stories about Bill Clinton were widely condemned in the press.

As long as the media repeats the rants of the Michael Moore's, the nine dwarves, Hitlery, etc., there will never be anything but Bush haters.

The left is so attached to organizations like the ACLU, NOW, the unions and others. With other sites on the net like MoveOn.org (with its link on CPUSA) the anti-Bush rants and the hate of the libs will stay in the press until after the election.

[DarthVader]

Put Helen Thomas's face in some dough and make gorilla cookies.

[Mr. Silverback]

How many cats do you think Helen Thomas has at her house?

[mhking]

Yep. Real ugly.

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[Skooz]

It's only a matter of time until someone posts The Picture.

Forwarned is forearmed.

[sergeantdave]

If anyone thinks the Bush haters are bad, wait until the Hillary announces she's running.

I'll bet my dime to your nickel that when she announces, the post on Free Republic announcing her candidancy will get 10,000 responses, the Free Republic server will melt down and the internet will be frozen dead for three days.

[mr_snoopy]

Hmmm....Helen Thomas has to be at the top (or bottom) of the list of ugliest Bush haters.

[Phantom Lord]

I purposefully didn't post a picture of her. My advise is you refrain from doing such in the future. Some peoples system can not handle the shock.

[bedolido]

she also looks like my Dad... I must come from ug-gul-ly stock.

[Phantom Lord]

I am a Hitlery hater and I proudly admit it.

And when she does run, Neal Boortz will be the man to listen to on the radio. Not Rush. Though they are on at different times so we can listen to both!

[ThinkFreedom]

Insightful article there; thanks for posting it :)

[Tacis]

She may not be the ugliest Bush hater, but you've touched on a key point, the connection to the Clinton White House sewer dwellers. The same scumbags, Begalla, Podesta, Emanual, etc., who lied every day to support Willie and tried to trash anyone who told the truth, seemed connected to this Bush bashing. Some Bush bashing is just fair play.

Leno and Letterman take shots at Bush almost every night. But, in context, they are not unfair or unreasonable especially in the context of the Willie jokes. In fact, last night, Letterman commented about Bush dropping his dog and showed the picture of the young girls behind him watching in horror. Letterman than said, "It was a different story when Clinton dropped a dog, he just left a message on her answering machine."

In the 2004 election, some of the turn out for the anti-American voters will be energized by their irrational hatred for Bush. I hope that much of this energy will focus behind the candidacy of Nader & Sharpton on the Green ticket.

[bedolido]

I like Neal Boortz, but I can only take so much of his negativisms. But he can ream the hineys with the best of them.

[Bikers4Bush]

Helen was the inspiration for the Penguin character as portrayed by Danny Devito in the Batman Series.

Good lord is she ugly.

[Phantom Lord]

I like Boortz a lot. I do not get to listen to him often because he is on tape delay here and played from 8 PM to 10 PM. I am often tied up with other things at those times. I need to find a way to record his streaming audio on the net so I can listen to the show at my leisure in the afternoon.

One of the reason I really like him is that I love his abrasive, rude, and outright attempts at offending people. The wackos on the left often need to be hit with both barrells. Rush is often to reserved and kind in his comments and style. Boortz lets them have it.

Boo Got Shot!

[Skooz]

And when she does run, Neal Boortz will be the man to listen to on the radio. Not Rush. Though they are on at different times so we can listen to both!

Oh, I am certain both will be in rare form and a great joy to listen to.

BTW, I hereby restate my previous position: If the Beast is elected President, I will leave the USA and remain outside for the duration of the four year Reign of Terror. I have my family to consider.

[presidio9]

But then again this woman positively loves bush, so it goes both ways you see.

[Born Conservative]

Great post!

[Phantom Lord]

My wife and I have pretty much settled on moving to Scotland if Hitlery is elected. If you have any suggestions we should look at I would like them. We have simple rules.

1) Must be an English speaking country
2) Golf must be a popular and affordable sport
3) Food has to be edible

thats about it!

[JoeSixPack1]

Wrong bush!

[Joe Bonforte]

So let me get this straight. Bush is so devious and clever than he it going to take over the world. And simultaneously he's so stupid he has a moron IQ.

I guess that makes sense to somebody...

[Skooz]

I think Belize would fit the bill. All that plus a magnificent beach.

[presidio9]

3) Food has to be edible

Mmmmmm... haggis!

Ever hear of the Land Down Under?

[BluH2o]

Yesterday I watched ABC news....first time I have watched mainstream news in over a year ...

I watch the ABC evening news frequently ... it's interesting and informative to get the liberal agenda & ABC never fails to disappoint. Last evening Pete-aahhh Jennings was back from vacation, also celebrating his 20th anniversary as news anchor, and ABC was back to full throttle bashing the Bush Iraq policy, the Bush economy, the Bush, etc., etc.. Of the 21 minutes (approx.) of actual newscast time ... at least 15 minutes were used to bash Bush ... welcome back Pete-aahhh!!!

[presidio9]

[Phantom Lord]

Belize would be great as I am a SCUBA diver.

[miss marmelstein]

I saw the photos in Vanity Fair that are mentioned in this article. The comparison is repulsive beyond belief. To equate Richard Perle to Joseph Goebbals was enough to turn my stomach. Maybe I'm too sensitive, but I think it is deeply wrong to compare any Jew to a Nazi. By the way, anyone who has seen the original photograph of Goebbals (I saw it at an exhibition years ago) wouldn't dare to compare the two men. The evil that leaps off the paper in the original photo is palpable. For shame!

[Phantom Lord]

Austraila is too far away. Don't want a 24 hour plane ride to come visit family or for them to visit us.

[GSWarrior]

It's all payback, I tell you. They are PO'd about what the "right wing conspiracy" did to their poster boy. They think they are getting even with conservatives and W is a perfect whipping boy for them--wealthy, not a good orator, proclaims religious beliefs and he's an oil man.

Central casting could not have provided a better Republican to serve their ends.

[Republic_of_Secession.]

The term Nazi in this day & age has been reduced to nothing more than an illdefined ad hominem attack which tends to be uttered by opponents of the object of criticism.

A "Nazi" (as defined by the Left) appears to be anyone who refuses to conform to the prevailing dialectic of the fascistic far Left. Rather ironic.

More ironic when considering that Nazism ie: National Socialism- is derived from the far Left. Furthermore: any true student of anti-statism knows that regardless of who runs the State: the natural tendancy of the State is to vere towards totalitarianism. As has been illustrated by the growing centralization of past decades. Hence just about any Head of State or public official (notably those who advance big government agendas) can be called a "Nazi" concerning some matter.

[mhking]

Some peoples system can not handle the shock.

Not even a small one?

[Skooz]

Looks like a giant grub.