Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: wardaddy; dirtboy

After the exclusion of women from productive endeavors, the next-worst wastage of human potential occurs in societies where the extended family, clan, or tribe is the basic social unit.

He's got to say the second, to justify his stupidity on the first.

Child-rearing is the most productive endeavor.

Additionally, employees work harder when providing for a family. That's good for productivity, but higher productivity isn't the supreme goal of a worker.

I heard somewhere that people on their deathbeds rarely say they wish they'd spent more time at the office.

The other model--that of the United States--is of religious coexistence, opening the door for science as an "alternative religion."
It doesn't take a Luddite to know that this isn't now, nor has it ever been, the appropriate role of science.
Americans have, in fact, such wonderful plasticity of mind that generally even the most vividly religious can disassociate antibiotic drugs from the study of Darwin and the use of birth-control pills from the strict codes of their churches. All religions breed some amount of schism between theology and social practice, but the American experience is a marvel of mental agility and human innovation.

I've never seen America's precipitous slide into degeneracy glossed over in quite so cheerily a fashion.


28 posted on 09/04/2003 8:52:43 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold would let Illegals stay... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971733/posts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]


To: Sabertooth
After the exclusion of women from productive endeavors, the next-worst wastage of human potential occurs in societies where the extended family, clan, or tribe is the basic social unit.

He's got to say the second, to justify his stupidity on the first.

Congratulations. You don't understand what he's talking about.

The issue he's discussing is that, in societies dominated by extended family/clan/tribal relationships, your social relationships are utterly dominated by your bloodline.

You and I are likely willing to risk death, if it becomes necessary, to save the lives of our wives, children, and immediate blood relations. But we're also willing to risk death, if necessary, to save close friends who are NOT blood relatives. It's a product of our culture.

In the societies he's describing, you have an utter duty to die for your fifth cousin, seven times removed, who you've never met and would absolutely despise if you ever did, and to kill your best friend if a remote relative in his extended family offends a remote relation of yours.

In clan/tribal societies, you have an absolute duty to hide your relative who just raped and murdered a little girl, if that girl wasn't from your tribe or clan.

In this culture, suppose (for the sake of argument) that your brother comes in and says: "Saber, you gotta hide me, I just raped and murdered the Larson girl."

How fast would you call the cops?

The MeChA motto is probably the purest expression of this tribalist mentality you'd find in America.

32 posted on 09/04/2003 9:07:24 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies ]

To: Sabertooth
Damn good post!
34 posted on 09/04/2003 9:09:14 AM PDT by wardaddy (deforestation now!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies ]

To: Sabertooth
“I've never seen America's precipitous slide into degeneracy glossed over in quite so cheerily a fashion.”

Then you might also like this line from him as well:

“While there is no global culture yet, American popular culture is increasingly available and wickedly appealing—“

An increasingly scary thought and not just to Muslims

The abuse of a market economy and capitalism itself is practiced by the likes of Interscope records, MTV/Viacom’s cheesy and seamless promotion and in clothing whores like Abercrombie and Fitch.

We need a more moral economy - Valuing Culture and Towards Morality: Rights and Responsibilities-instead of pimping the nihilistic schlock that tarnish values and offers no suitable replacement whatsoever.

51 posted on 09/04/2003 11:46:51 AM PDT by Helms ("I Want My MTV" (More Televised Vulgarity))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson