Lib Author Regrets Voting for clinton / "Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America

The O'Reilly Factor | 9.4.03 | Mia T

[lilylangtree]

Interesting to hear a lib backtrack. However, have to wonder if this was just an opportunity to hawk his book.

[Shermy]

Remember also that Condi Rice gave a plan to the President to take care of Bin Laden just a few days before 911.

Apparently. Might have been a special plan, might have been normal contingency planning. And the 6+2 confrontation with the Taliban in the summer of 2001 is intriguing. 9/11 a preemptive strike? Just a feint to ease elimination of the Northern Alliance and move into Central Asia?

Big chapters in this story haven't been fleshed out and certainly I might be impressed about pre-9/11 anti-Osama strategy in the future once the info ever comes out...if ever. The press is almost useless, I don't think they'll ever consider the assaination of Shah Massoud in the big picture of things.

[alnick]

However, have to wonder if this was just an opportunity to hawk his book.

See post 19. Posner changed his tune in September of 2001.

[Mia T]

I dunno... Matthews milked Miniter's story for all it was worth...

...as opposed to O'Reilly interviewing Posner; o'reilly was bending over backwards--or,more precisely, leftward, to give clinton every benefit of the doubt. (clinton had spun o'reilly in the flesh about the terrorism, you see.)

IMO, o'reilly is playing the long shot as he name-drops, angling for a clinton interview.

[Mia T]

bump!

[sauropod]

Yep. I have lost a lot of respect for O'Really.

[Mia T]

Thanks for the Posner quote.

I believe that there is a subset of dems -- the rational thinkers -- who will never again vote for a democrat.

 

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by Mia T, 4.6.03

 

If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

 

Mia T, THE ALIENS

 

Al From is sounding the alarm. "Unless we convince Americans that Democrats are strong on national security," he warns his party, "Democrats will continue to lose elections."

Helloooo? That the Democrats have to be spoon-fed what should be axiomatic post-9/11 is, in and of itself, incontrovertible proof that From's advice is insufficient to solve their problem.

From's failure to fully lay out the nature of the Democrats' problem is not surprising: he is the guy who helped seal his party's fate. It was his Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) that institutionalized the proximate cause of the problem, clintonism, and legitimized its two eponymic provincial operators on the national stage. The "Third Way" and "triangulation" don't come from the same Latin root for no reason.

That "convince" is From's operative word underscores the Democrats' dilemma. Nine-eleven was transformative. It is no longer sufficient merely to convince. One must demonstrate, demonstrate convincingly, if you will… which means both in real time and historically.

When it comes to national security, Americans will no longer take any chances. Turning the turn of phrase back on itself, the era of the Placebo President is over. (Incidentally, the oft-quote out-of-context sentence fragment alluded to here transformed meaningless clinton triangulation into a meaningful if deceptive soundbite.)

Although From is loath to admit it -- the terror in his eyes belies his facile solution -- the Democratic party's problem transcends its anti-war contingent.

With a philosophy that relinquishes our national sovereignty -- and relinquishes it reflexively… and to the UN no less -- the Democratic party is, by definition, the party of national insecurity.

With policy ruled by pathologic self-interest -- witness the "Lieberman Paradigm," Kerry's "regime change" bon mot (gone bad), Edwards' and the clintons' brazen echoes thereof (or, alternatively, Pelosi's less strident wartime non-putdown putdown)… and, of course, the clincher -- eight years of the clintons' infantilism, grotesquerie and utter failure -- the Democratic party is, historically and in real time, the party of national insecurity.

The Democrats used to be able to wallpaper their national insecurity with dollars and demogoguery. But that was before 9/11.

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime

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Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent
missus clinton's REAL virtual office update^BUMP!

[anoldafvet]

My wife and I used to watch O'Reilly faithfully every night, then he started harping about finding the WMD's in Iraq and how Bush was in real trouble, we haven't watched him since. He claims to be Independent, but he sure leans way over to the LEFT if you ask me.

[Frapster]

oh my gosh - clicking on one of your threads/posts is nearly as bad clicking on an ad banner and have 30,000 pop ups appear. Won't make that mistake again.

[sauropod]

Yep. He believes that chicken little global warming crap.

[Mia T]

The WMD rant lacks intellectual honesty. My guess is that he is motivated more by career advancement than by ideology.

I also think he ain't all that bright....

[jospehm20]

Governed Texas?

[Mia T]

I would apologize for disturbing your sensibilities, but you say you aren't coming back... ;)

[CajunConservative]

oh my gosh - clicking on one of your threads/posts is nearly as bad clicking on an ad banner and have 30,000 pop ups appear. Won't make that mistake again.

You've been a member since 1998 and you are just figuring this out?

I think her posts are great.

[1Old Pro]

Well, what did Bush II do for 1 1/2 years before 9/11?

Should I submit this for quote of the day?

[Shermy]

Should I submit this for quote of the day?

Under the ADA, that would be a hate crime against the mathematically impaired. Proceed with care...

[netmilsmom]

>>"Well, what did Bush II do for 1 1/2 years before 9/11?"

Should I submit this for quote of the day?<<

Yes!!!
I think we will all go "duh".

[PJ-Comix]

As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.

Huh? Since when is Gerald Posner a Muslim name????

[votelife]

Couric on NBC asked him, so are you blaming Bill Clinton, and he all but said yes...Couric was troubled, and quickly moved on!

[Mia T]

Sorry for the confusion. That quote was from the Mansoor Ijaz op-ed in the LATimes, Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize.