Supreme Court Rejects Gunmakers' Appeal

KRON ^ | September 4, 2003 | Associated Press

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Without comment? Without a freaking comment? Let me get this straight. They reject an argument that banning firearms is unconstitutional and then don't cite the constitutional authority upon which they base their decision. Anybody who thinks this law "substantially affects interstate commerce" is a bloody idiot. We truly ARE doomed.

[tpaine]

Justice Department lawyers urged the court to reject the appeal.
``Federal regulation of firearms and assault weapons is based in large part on evidence that the nationwide market for firearms renders purely local prohibitions ineffective,´´ they said.

Yep. the most bizarre part of the JD lawyers above plea is the assumption that "local prohibitions" on assault weapons are constitutional.

Ashcroft allows this type of irrational & stupid argument to take place on his watch? - Crazy.

[Blood of Tyrants]

I think you are looking at this wrong. The two companies challenged the law under the interstate commerce clause NOT under the under the 2nd Amendment. The interstate commerce clause has been so abused that the Congress just mumbles something about the interstate commerce clause and the majority of the time the courts let it go.

[tpaine]

Your usual doughyboy comment. Congrats.

[facedown]

Also, the article deceptively says that the court "rejected an appeal" and that the plaintiffs "lost an appeal," when in reality the court simply declined to hear the case, as they do for 99+% of applications for certiorari.

Thank you.

[FreedomCalls]

Here's my rebuttal, "".

Your usual doughyboy comment. Congrats.

It's a joke. See, the Court rejected the case without comment so Doughyboy rebutted their rejection without comment as well.

[DoughtyOne]

I hope you know I agreed with you.

[Blood of Tyrants]

So what happened?

The really worst thing that happened was when our forefathers neglected to put mandatory term limits in the Constitution.

The second worst thing that happened was when the 17th Amendment was passed making the Senator elected by popular vote of the people. They then became beholden to the people and special interest groups with money instead of the state who appointed.

Between these two mistakes, Congress is so busy trying to stay in office that they gave away their power to various agencies and the executive branch they in turn abdicated it to the judiciary.

[DoughtyOne]

That's a good point. I don't like any infringements. If your troops are tied up elsewhere, doesn't it stand to reason the populace could still be called on to defend the nation? Of course it does. And it ticks me off to see the courts take step after step to prevent us from defending ourselves.

[MindBender26]

They are asked to review tens of thousands of cases a year, but can only take about 1%. This case was not accepted.

[tpaine]

How was I to tell?

[DoughtyOne]

To: DoughtyOne

DoughtyOne wrote:

"I really do think it's time to impeach the Supreme Court en mass and start over. These fools have never read the Constitution."

Justice Department [Bush/Ashcroft] lawyers urged the court to reject the appeal.
``Federal regulation of firearms and assault weapons is based in large part on evidence that the nationwide market for firearms renders purely local prohibitions
ineffective,´´ they said. [Lying thru their teeth]

Impeach just the Court? How bout the Republocrat legislators & administrations who write/sign the gun 'laws' and then enforce them?

It's time to bite the bullet and admit our whole political system is flawed beyond repair.

13 posted on 09/04/2003 6:09 PM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
 

To: tpaine

Here's my rebuttal, "".

19 posted on 09/04/2003 6:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
 

Here is your post, and my response.  I agreed with your comments so there was no need for a rebuttal.  I'm sorry that was not as clear as I thought it would be to you.  I thought you'd get a chuckle out of it.

No big deal.  I have a lot of sympathy for the views you express here.  They show frustration with what's going on, and a bit of animosity thrown in for effect.

We have fallen in love with a beautiful woman who has been presented to us as a chaste woman of worth.  What we are waking up to is that our nation is for sale to the highest bidder, and as often as possible.  It sucks.  When the reality hits me, I feel like I'm seventeen years old being dumped all over again by someone who wasn't what I thought she was.

Our nation has been subverted by evil men.

[FreedomCalls]

Oh, sorry.

[DoughtyOne]

I appreciate the comment here, but I think you should take a look at my comment 2 on this thread.  I think it will give you some sense of where I'm coming from on this issue.

I was agreeing with TPaine's comments here, not ridiculing him.

As for your thoughts here, I agree that this is a big problem.  I've been aware of it and speak out against it every chance I get.

Any questions?

[DoughtyOne]

No problem at all.

D1