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To: Helms; LurkedLongEnough; joesnuffy; rintense; All
I got a book my in-laws were throwing out titled "The Last 2 Million Years" full of fascinating info on past civilizations.

The advances made by Arabs, Islam, the Persians et al were a tremendous benefit to the world.

The point they are at now is a pity, because they have frozen in time, from a time long long ago. Why? Dunno.

They used to allow unbelievers to live amongst them, but only as second class citizens. I am unsure when the "kill all the infidels" came about.

But one cannot dismiss their achievements to the modern world. They mapped stars, invented the almanac( an arabic word), invented the numbering system which we use today, invented paper, explained why the sun and moon appeared larger on the horizon, developed the basis for modern algebra(another arabic word) geometry, trig, calculus, in fact they were one of the first peoples to use the scientific method for experimentation. They also translated many Greek works into Arabic, which were then passed to early Europeans who translated them back into their languages. Many of these would have been lost during the Dark Ages of Europe.

Yes, Islam now sucks. It is a religion without tolerance, full of hate, which promotes killing to further its agenda.
But thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago, they contributed much to the world.
32 posted on 09/05/2003 12:54:33 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething
algebra(another arabic

Correction. AL jahabra was the name of the arab who took what's now called algebra from India to Persia and Arabia.

That branch of mathematics came to be known as algebra after this arab gent.

Likewise, Arabic numerals were purloined from India.

Let's forget the Byzantine civilisation, too,
34 posted on 09/05/2003 2:06:54 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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They used to allow unbelievers to live amongst them, but only as second class citizens. I am unsure when the "kill all the infidels" came about.

The infidel has the choice of living as a 2nd-class citizen, and paying tribute, or being killed. The infidels who must be killed are all those who refuse to submit to being ruled by Muslims

39 posted on 09/05/2003 5:47:36 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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