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The Congressional Black Caucus: Fifth Column in Congress?
Various ^ | September 7, 2003 | nwrep

Posted on 09/07/2003 1:16:41 PM PDT by nwrep

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To: rdb3
"Are you just as distrustful of your black family members (since they are black after all) as you would be of a black person like mhking or myself who don't fit your distrustful description?

Hardly an intelligent question...or you're missing my point entirely....

Individuals that demonstrate their individuality can be judged accordingly..

Since one can not meet all members of any large group - one determines how they will regard that group by their collective behavior or the positions taken by their "leaders" or "spokespersons"....

It really makes no difference if the group is racial, ethnic or political --- the public "persona" of that group in many ways is determined by the behavior and actions of the group or their "leadership's" positions...

All I am saying, is that I think it is rational - to be wary or suspicious of any "group" when that group has demonstrated "unfriendly" or "undesirable" behavior...

Have you attempted to join a KKK Bar-B-Que lately? Kind of an extreme example, but I hope you'll understand my point...

This is never a easy subject to discuss.

Most whites are not honest about how they feel about the problems facing race relations in this country.. We are in a world of hurt...and I don't hold much hope for quick resolutions, when I see the direction the majority of black "leaders" and black "spokespersons" are taking the situation..

Semper Fi

41 posted on 09/07/2003 10:01:57 PM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: nwrep
bttt
42 posted on 09/07/2003 10:49:00 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: river rat; rdb3
In dealing with people, we never start out from a state of perfect knowledge (we never arrive at a state of perfect knowledge either, but that's another point). Consequently, you need a "default state", namely how do you behave towards relative strangers until you know more about them

Your main choices are to be either trusting and open until your knowledge and experience with them shows them untrustworthy, or untrusting and relatively closed until you know enough about them to start trusting them.

In arriving at this initial state, most humans tend to use the visible characteristics of the stranger to try to predict behavior, based on what you know about other people with the same characteristics.

When I see a well-groomed, well-dressed person, I tend to be less wary of getting mugged by that person than I would of a scuzzy street-person, because my experience and the experience of those I talk to, indicates that not to many mugging are committed by people who look middle-class

The unfortunate facts of life are that if you are noticed to be a member of a group that has a high percentage of bad people, most people will be wary until you prove otherwise. It's a fact of life. To demand otherwise is to demand that people endure a higher rate of victimization due to having trusted people who were part of a group that includes a high percentage of predators

43 posted on 09/08/2003 3:26:31 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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To: river rat; mhking; rdb3
Is there ONE predominantly black organization that is countering the devastating racist behavior of Jesse, Al, PUSH, NAACP, BCC, etc.....

The Congress for Racial Equality (CORE) is a great conservative black organization that has made fighting the power of Jesse Jackson one of its many goals. It is worthy of support by all conservatives.

Brotherhood Organization for a New Destiny (BOND) is yet another conservative black group.

Then there are great conservative black voices such as Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams and Judge Clarence Thomas.

44 posted on 09/08/2003 6:06:06 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: river rat
There is less hope that the 10% non-"democrat plantation" blacks stand any chance of ever "containing" their "lunatic fringe"...

So, given that "glowing" assessment, you write us off as "fringe fanatics?" Does that make it easier for you to lump all blacks together?

So - if I elect to be cautiously suspicious of all Muslims, or blacks (until proven otherwise)- as a form of personal self defense - I'm a racist?

No, it makes you closed minded.

Is there ONE predominantly black organization that is countering the devastating racist behavior of Jesse, Al, PUSH, NAACP, BCC, etc.....

CORE, BOND, BAMPAC, CURE, Project 21; Need I continue?

For those blacks that have thrown on the yoke and inferior mentality of slavery - I commend and respect..

Thanks for the patronizing bone. I guess that's all I rate as a "token."

It may shock you to learn that I have served proudly with proud blacks who thought of themselves as American Marines (not black Marines), have blacks in my family and have both blacks and Muslims in my closest circle of friends...

Don't tell me: "Some of my best friends are black..."

Feh...

Yes, perhaps it could be said I'm painting with a broad brush....but when you need to cover 90% of a huge and potentially dangerous wall - you don't use an artist's brush...

Like I said initially, thank you for your candor. I now know where I stand with you, since your broad brush just clean slaps over me. Why not use a roller or a paint-gun while you're at it, massa. It'll paint me much faster than that brush.

45 posted on 09/08/2003 7:14:29 AM PDT by mhking (The LEAGUE plays here...)
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To: nwrep
The Congress for Racial Equality (CORE) is a great conservative black organization that has made fighting the power of Jesse Jackson one of its many goals. It is worthy of support by all conservatives.

Roy Innis, President of CORE, is also on the board of directors of the NRA and regularly gives speeches on the value of the 2nd Amendment

46 posted on 09/08/2003 8:34:02 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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The Democratic party is the epitome of this same"white establishment" How could this be since six Democratic senators are black? ;-}
47 posted on 09/21/2003 1:36:43 PM PDT by RobbyS (nd)
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