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Free-staters eye New Hampshire, Wyoming
Associated Press via the Casper WY Star Tribune ^ | 06 September 2003 | Kate McCann

Posted on 09/08/2003 11:01:44 AM PDT by archy

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To: archy
Prostitution is a victimless crime?
21 posted on 09/08/2003 12:07:19 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski

Prostitution is a victimless crime?

The john pays a woman to have sex with him. Who's the victim?

22 posted on 09/08/2003 12:13:06 PM PDT by Sparta
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To: Sparta
The john pays a woman to have sex with him. Who's the victim?

Depends...is the woman in this profession by choice, or by coercion? What about children forced into prostitution?

There are many victims of prostitution, but I agree, not ALL prostitution has a victim.

23 posted on 09/08/2003 12:20:25 PM PDT by WestPacSailor (Sorry folks, this tagline's closed. The moose out front should of told you.)
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To: archy
Archy,

Since you are adding folks to your FSP ping list, would you please add me? Thanks.

24 posted on 09/08/2003 12:21:57 PM PDT by WestPacSailor (Sorry folks, this tagline's closed. The moose out front should of told you.)
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To: WestPacSailor
Well some people are forced to work in factories but I don't think we should outlaw assembly line work
25 posted on 09/08/2003 12:22:52 PM PDT by waverna (Life is short; Remember Death)
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To: Sparta
The john pays a woman to have sex with him. Who's the victim?

How about the "john'" ie "whoremonger's" wife and children, just for starters? How about society as a whole for another?

26 posted on 09/08/2003 12:26:03 PM PDT by BSunday
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To: WestPacSailor

Depends...is the woman in this profession by choice, or by coercion?

If it's coercion, than it's slavery which is both illegal under the law and immoral to any true libertarian (who value individual choice and not interfearing with the rights of others.)

27 posted on 09/08/2003 12:26:28 PM PDT by Sparta
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To: Az Joe
cold to me is below 65F or so.

I'm in Jersey, and August is my favorite month. every few years, we get a 100+ degree(+99% humidity) spell and I'm the only one I know who likes to take 10-20 mile bike rides. Most people hide in the air conditioning 24/7. The only time in the winter I don't mind going out is when the fish are biting. If it's 20 degs. on land, you go about 10 miles out to sea and it usually is at least in the low 40's since the water holds the 'heat'. The biggest problem is the bow icing up on the run out from the waves(avg. 3-4') crashing over it. ;-)

28 posted on 09/08/2003 12:27:23 PM PDT by StriperSniper (The slippery slope is getting steeper.)
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To: BSunday

How about the "john'" ie "whoremonger's" wife and children, just for starters?

Not all johns are married. Anyway, adultery ruins marriages, want to outlaw that too?

How about society as a whole for another?

Yes unregulated prostitution does harm society. The prostitutes could be carrying STDs which are spread by having sex with customers. The way to decrease the risk of STDs is to regulate prostitution, not outlaw it.

29 posted on 09/08/2003 12:30:19 PM PDT by Sparta
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To: WestPacSailor
There are many victims of prostitution, but I agree, not ALL prostitution has a victim.

1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body

How bout that WestPac? Now we're having two conversations at once! =)

30 posted on 09/08/2003 12:32:26 PM PDT by BSunday
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To: archy
Go to NH. Even if the FSP fails, such a key swing state could use some balancing towards the right. The impact in WY would be far less noticeable or influential.
31 posted on 09/08/2003 12:35:05 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: BSunday
Lot of those Old Testament guys were sinning against their own bodies, weren't they.
32 posted on 09/08/2003 12:39:00 PM PDT by steve50 (Power takes as ingratitude the writhing of it's victims : Tagore)
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To: steve50
Your point is...?
33 posted on 09/08/2003 12:40:37 PM PDT by BSunday
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To: archy
Crap! I haven't mailed my ballot!!!!
34 posted on 09/08/2003 12:58:25 PM PDT by Feiny (AAHHHH OOOHHHH Werewolves of London....)
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To: archy
Voted!

New Hampshire is certainly on my list of acceptable states! I have only been to New Hampshire twice, but I sure liked what I saw.

And, "Live FRee or Die" is as good a state motto as there is!


35 posted on 09/08/2003 1:14:40 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: feinswinesuksass
MAILIT! NOW!
36 posted on 09/08/2003 1:18:31 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Sparta
"The john pays a woman to have sex with him. Who's the victim? "

SOCIETY....
spread of STDs...
sex as a "commodity" rather than a loving act...
females seen as "objects"...
men not being able to deal with real women and
the obligations that go along with sex...
women involved having low self-esteem...
and that's just for openers...
37 posted on 09/08/2003 1:20:23 PM PDT by karen999 (Davis Delenda Est)
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To: karen999

spread of STDs...

Regulate it then. Make the prostitutes come in for STD tests every week.

sex as a "commodity" rather than a loving act... females seen as "objects"... men not being able to deal with real women and the obligations that go along with sex... women involved having low self-esteem... and that's just for openers...

Sound like individual problems to me. It's not the government's job to stop individuals from making foolish decisions.

38 posted on 09/08/2003 1:26:52 PM PDT by Sparta
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To: archy
Please add me to your ping list.

Like others here, I'm from FL and warm blooded. I dig the FSP, but I'm kind of waiting for Castro to keel over and invade Cuba with the pissed off group of liberty lovers in Miami.
39 posted on 09/08/2003 1:39:39 PM PDT by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** God may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: Sparta
It's not the government's job to stop individuals from making foolish decisions.

It is the job of government to "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..." When an individual's "foolish decisions" threaten justice, domestic tranquility, the common defense, the general welfare, or the blessings of liberty, then it is the government's duty to stop that foolish individual.

Now, as for the FSP, I wish it all the best of luck in its success. If all the anarchists are in one place, it'll be easier for the rest of us to get some work done.

40 posted on 09/08/2003 1:46:00 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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