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Will Schwarzenegger terminate the GOP?
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| September 9, 2003
| Tom Ambrose
Posted on 09/09/2003 6:08:17 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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posted on
09/09/2003 6:08:17 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
To: joesnuffy
They seem to forget snowe, collins ,spector and mccain.
To: 2timothy3.16
and Jeffords
To: joesnuffy
If you elephants value the voters who put you where you are today not to mention the future of your party you had better get to Arnold fast and tell him it is he who needs to drop out, not Tom McClintock.This is one of the funniest lines I've seen since Dewey beat Truman in '48.
Obviously this retard hasn't noticed that the single issue hard right in California has indeed put the Republicans where they are today...,out of office.
What nonsense.
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posted on
09/09/2003 6:23:01 AM PDT
by
harrowup
(I'm so perfect I am naturally humble.)
To: harrowup
It's apparent that members of the Republican Party don't want to take a look at what the Party's become, (invertebrate and accommodationist). That being the case, someone has to bring 'em the bad news! The Estrada cave-in is just the tip of the iceberg for these gutless wonders. And, now, some sheep in wolves' clothing pretends to the leadership of the Party in California! Now, there's a fruitless pursuit!
To: joesnuffy
Well Arnold has moved considerably rightwards since he announced his candidacy and Tom Ambrose's criticism is not completely fair. Given California's circumstances, we may have to settle for someone who is far from perfect. Politics isn't about getting everything on your wish list; its about getting what you can now and fighting for the rest later. How do you think the Democrats brought socialism to California? They didn't do it overnight. We have to learn that taking the country back requires decades of hard work and we're not going to get Americans to all agree with us overnight. And if we insist on all or nothing, no surprise we will end up with nothing.
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posted on
09/09/2003 6:51:41 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: joesnuffy; Luis Gonzalez
Because depending upon whose estimates you believe, a minimum of 30 to 40 percent of the Republican Party is composed of religious conservatives. Many conservatives are already suspicious of the party's leadership for not dismantling the Internal Revenue Service and for staying in the United Nations. Ah, and the "big lie" surfaces again.
The 10% of GOP voters which are persistently threatening to bolt for the whackjobism of the Constimatooshin or Libertarian Parties if the other 90% don't do what they say are not the "base".
What they are is noisy far and beyond their actual numbers, radicalized, and are all too frequently coddled at the expense of good common sense.
What they are is, like this author, sniveling weasels, and the GOP is well to be rid of them.
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posted on
09/09/2003 6:54:56 AM PDT
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(Paleocons - defined as the French generals of the political world)
To: Conservative_Rob
and Jeffords You are right of course, I just don't take anything out of vermont serious, except their great law concerning carry a concealed weapon.
And jumping Jefford is a independant socailist like his buddy bernie saunders.
To: harrowup
This is one of the funniest lines I've seen since Dewey beat Truman in '48.Calling the author a "retard"? I see the long term intellect awareness of the (R)nold defendors never increases. I find your reference to Dewey very relevant, there is a Dewey/Truman effect in this race, but you certainly are unaware of it. Hope you figure it out soon.
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posted on
09/09/2003 9:43:35 AM PDT
by
PeoplesRep_of_LA
(Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
To: goldstategop
Well Arnold has moved considerably rightwards since he announced his candidacy So let me get this straight, were supposed to line up behind a man whose principles can be swayed by the need to attract votes?
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Everytime I hear the word "base", I think of a pyramid. As best as I can recall, the base of a pyramid is not the point, but the broadest part of it.
The base of any party is the majority of its voters, not the minority. And most certainly, it's never that segment willing to abandon the party at the drop of a hat over any and all real or imagined complaints.
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posted on
09/09/2003 10:31:22 AM PDT
by
Luis Gonzalez
("As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Abraham Lincoln)
To: Chancellor Palpatine
What they are is, like this author, sniveling weasels, and the GOP is well to be rid of them.
I'm still wondering where they plan on going..
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posted on
09/09/2003 10:38:04 AM PDT
by
kingu
To: Chancellor Palpatine
What they are is, like this author, sniveling weasels, and the GOP is well to be rid of them.
I'm still wondering where they plan on going..
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posted on
09/09/2003 10:38:16 AM PDT
by
kingu
To: kingu; L,TOWM
They love the Constimatooshin Party platform - it is a fine place for them to run. They can rant, be unhappy and say all sorts of really stupid things while never getting elected (which is what seems to satisfy them most of all) - and we aren't tainted by their weirder positions, nor will there be any need to include them in any discussions on strategy or policy.
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posted on
09/09/2003 10:43:32 AM PDT
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(RINOs for Schwarzenegger - Sowell, Coulter, Friedman, Drier, Cox, Jarvis Foundation, Rohrbacher.....)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
The base of which you speak is composed of right wing zealots who have destroyed any opportunity for the Republican Party to make any advancements in California.
If you are one of them then have the guts to form a real conservative party in California and stop trying to reshape the Republicans into a knuckledragger party. The Democrats in California are so far over to the left that just maybe the Republicans could win without your support
Your graphics are as silly as your claim to any intelligent political ground. I'm no 'Arnold' supporter and as a Democrat would prefer to see Governor Davis serve out his term in the Comedy Club and avoid having to listen to Bustamente any longer. The Mayor of San Francisco just might take Bustamente to a complete cleanup of the treasury. Since I don't vote in California but do have property there I'm in favor of higher property taxes on a local level just to get the SFO/LAX thieves out of education entirely.
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posted on
09/09/2003 10:50:53 AM PDT
by
harrowup
(I'm so perfect I am naturally humble.)
To: harrowup
The Democrats in California are so far over to the left that just maybe the Republicans could win without your support Get your talking points straight, I thought my fellow knuckle draggers destroyed the opportunity for the RINO party to win, how can they win without me all of a sudden?
You're as confused as your platform.
Your graphics are as silly as your claim to any intelligent political ground.
Pretending to intellectual all of a sudden? Kind of tough when you called the author a "retard"
I'm no 'Arnold' supporter and as a Democrat would prefer to see Governor Davis serve out his term
Well no wonder you hate Conservatives, say no more, say no more!
I'm in favor of higher property taxes on a local level just to get the SFO/LAX thieves out of education entirely.
That makes positively no sense. How can anyone be this naive about politicians and tax money? No wonder you are a Democrat.
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posted on
09/09/2003 10:58:33 AM PDT
by
PeoplesRep_of_LA
(Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
To: FreepShop
Are we supposed to line up behind Tom McClintock, a proven loser, who has no principles but that which serve his own ego? Yes we are. Tom got more crossover votes than any other Republican in the last elections. He should have had our support from the start and we should not have been so eager to anoint Arnold as the chosen one. What are you going to do when enough dirt comes out about Arnold to make him unelectable?
To: joesnuffy
In particular, there has been an ongoing battle for many years inside both the California Republican Party and the national Republican Party to change the party's platform to support pro-abortion candidates. Additionally, there are many who would like to see Republicans get behind homosexual rights. This is all part of the Big Tent theory, i.e., if you embrace disenfranchised minorities (just as the Democrats do), you can win more elections.
What these bozos who push for this sort of change will erect, of course, is a circus tent. But should they succeed, the Republican Party will forever be relegated to minority status as they watch the tent collapse around them.
Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.
~ Alexander Hamilton ~
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posted on
09/09/2003 11:11:07 AM PDT
by
AnnaZ
(::: VOTE McCLINTOCK! ::: (Interns in Sacramento thank you in advance.) :::)
To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Read slowly and think.
Local, state and federal offices all held by democrats.
Republicans have been sabotaged by the right wing.
Arnold isn't going to win, with or without the knuckledraggers.
The knuckledraggers (you, apparently) need to get out of the Republican Party and let the moderate and liberal Republicans join forces with the sixteen conservative desert democrats and do a hat dance on the boxer/feinstein/pappadoc new age democrats.
Apparently you don't know how California is governed...it is run by fiat and ballot initiative, in other words, anarchy. Tax 'policy' does not exist in California. Tax anarchy does. Property owners who purchased property in say 1985 don't have to give a damn about the property tax because they can't raise it on appraised value as do most intelligent jurisdictions in the world. I pay more in automobile insurance in California than I do property tax and that is just plain stupid.
I don't hate conservatives. I loathe single issue blowhards who do more shouting than listening whether from the left or the right.
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posted on
09/09/2003 12:40:54 PM PDT
by
harrowup
(I'm so perfect I am naturally humble.)
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