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One 5-year-old's allergy leads to class peanut ban [lunch searches?????]
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Posted on 09/09/2003 7:47:13 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:43:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

An East Bay elementary school's ban on peanut butter sandwiches and other nut products in its kindergarten classes has some parents questioning whether school district administrators overreacted to concerns for one allergic child.

At the center of the storm is a 5-year-old boy enrolled at Valle Verde Elementary School in Walnut Creek. He suffers from "peanut and tree nut" allergies that his mother says are life-threatening.


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1 posted on 09/09/2003 7:47:15 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
This is not an unusual occurance.
2 posted on 09/09/2003 7:47:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Sub-Driver
"My son is allergic to dust mites," said one woman. "Can we get rid of dust mites on campus?"

Dust mites won't kill your child, lady.

3 posted on 09/09/2003 7:49:17 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Paleocons - defined as the French generals of the political world)
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To: Sub-Driver
Better to inconvenience a thousand than to inconvenience one, I guess.
4 posted on 09/09/2003 7:55:03 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Sub-Driver
I used to work a summer day-camp back in HS and College. Any kids with allergies had an epi-pen with them. Never had any problems, and only heard of an epi-pen being used once (for a bee sting, nonetheless), despite many kids having (potentially fatal) nut allergies, and many others bring PB&J lunches.
5 posted on 09/09/2003 7:55:30 AM PDT by jae471
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To: Sub-Driver
WHAT PASSES FOR SCHOOL THESE DAYS:

Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.
If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.

We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Se nior King.
It's "inappropriate" to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such "judgments" do not belong.

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.
It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take
6 posted on 09/09/2003 7:56:05 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

7 posted on 09/09/2003 7:56:11 AM PDT by mhking (No monster can survive a smoking fire and Jello!)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
....hmmmm......"nut free zone".................Maybe a new category for FR........

~</;o)
8 posted on 09/09/2003 7:57:29 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Sub-Driver
When I was growing up I hardly ever remember any kids with any allergies, no Asthma, we were always pretty healthy. Have we gotten wimpier..or are we becoming a nation of Hypocondriacs... or what?
9 posted on 09/09/2003 7:57:50 AM PDT by mrbillxx
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To: Sub-Driver
one of my twins was in such a class. they had to wash their hands before walking into class.

It was voluntary - if a parent had a real big deal, the kid didn't have to be in that class. it was no big deal.
10 posted on 09/09/2003 7:58:04 AM PDT by ctlpdad (In memory of my good friend Henry's daughter, lost 9/11/01)
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To: Sub-Driver
I guess he will never fly anywhere to travel. The passenger sitting next to him might actually consume the peanuts offered by the airlines.

This kid and mother would be better served to learn not to contact peanut oil products, instead of forcing the entire class to abstain from these products.

Imagine being 5 years old and you can't enjoy a PB&J Sandwich. Tis a shame.
11 posted on 09/09/2003 7:58:27 AM PDT by CSM ("We have been assigned to the hall of Freep. No other work is allowed" - Equality 7-2521)
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To: jae471
A child with such a serious allergy is not learning how to live with it if the world is "sanitized" for him. By five this kid should be already carrying the meds for this.

Is this mother going to force this issue for the rest of his life?


12 posted on 09/09/2003 8:00:48 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Sub-Driver
I have a young niece that has taken to the hospital in life and death situations because of her peanut allergy. A year ago a little boy died in one of the local schools after being given a peanut-laced cookie that he ate. This was after the school was alerted to the danger, and after the little boy told the person handing them out of his problem, and was assured that the cookie was fine.

There are so many chances of things going fatal when peanut products are handled carelessly around pre-teen kids. The older ones are able to negotiate around the landmines fairly easily, althought my niece has been falsely assured that peanut oils haven't been used at several restaurants - - and nearly paid the ultimate price for their casualness.

Most people just don't understand the seriousness of the problem. I hate to see an otherwise beneficial product banned because of a few, but we're not talking about just getting sick or receiving a migraine. School districts that that allow pre-teens to be exposed are asking to be sued.
13 posted on 09/09/2003 8:01:12 AM PDT by Elvis van Foster
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To: CSM
The airlines don't offer peanuts anymore - for this very reason. Be prepare to choke down some stale pretzels.
14 posted on 09/09/2003 8:01:16 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (You may disagree with me, but I will fight for your right to be in error.)
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To: CSM
Imagine being 5 years old and you can't enjoy a PB&J Sandwich. Tis a shame.

I agree - and so would my 5yo who specifically asked for PB&J for her lunch today.

15 posted on 09/09/2003 8:02:02 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers - personification of everything wrong in this country.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The entire United States should be made a nut free zone. Not only would nut-allergic children be safe at last, but "Liberalism" and other forms of decadence would be a thing of the past, and America could procede with its ascendancy.
16 posted on 09/09/2003 8:02:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The American Heartland--the Spirit of Flight 93)
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To: Sub-Driver
"My child's allergies are life-threatening," she said.

If I had a child with, "life threatening allergies", they certainly wouldn't be going to public school.

17 posted on 09/09/2003 8:02:44 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Peanut alergies are brutal, shot of having a peanut free shcool somewhere in the district there is not much you can do. You do understand it could kill this kid..
18 posted on 09/09/2003 8:03:39 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Sub-Driver
Forget Anthrax or VX, Al Qaeda is now working on the peanut butter bomb to use on US kindergartens.
19 posted on 09/09/2003 8:03:50 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Sub-Driver
A lot of schools do this nowadays. I've heard of it happening at many schools, especially elementary schools, when one or more student has such a bad allergy. I can't decide if I agree or disagree with it either because on one hand: a five yr old isn't old enough to understand how important it is to refuse anything with peanuts or know which foods might contain peanuts (like some candies)... on the other hand: all the other students are punished because of one kid... i think the kid might be better in a small private school where the teacher could monitor the kid more closely and be prepared in case he accidently got something he shouldn't.. or maybe homeschool until the kid is old enough to know what foods to refuse and why to refuse them.
20 posted on 09/09/2003 8:03:52 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: TexasNative2000
"The airlines don't offer peanuts anymore - for this very reason. Be prepare to choke down some stale pretzels."

True, but do they ban peanuts from the planes. I didn't realize that was part of the list of items to be confiscated by security, along with knitting needles and fingernail clippers.
21 posted on 09/09/2003 8:03:53 AM PDT by CSM ("We have been assigned to the hall of Freep. No other work is allowed" - Equality 7-2521)
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To: Sub-Driver
Maybe these people are worried about getting sued. Their paranoia is understandable. What's puzzling is why people are not frightened enough to put a stop to the insane paranoia-inducing litigation.
22 posted on 09/09/2003 8:05:14 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The American Heartland--the Spirit of Flight 93)
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To: EggsAckley
Just until the child is old enough to watch on his own- and even then it is occasionally dicy when nuts are so ground up as not to be obvious. I was deeply involved in a situation where a 13 year old died in school over anaphylaxis contracted over eating a piece of candy that was not labeled appropriately.
23 posted on 09/09/2003 8:06:19 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (RINOs for Schwarzenegger - Sowell, Coulter, Medved, Drier, Cox, Jarvis Foundation, Rohrbacher......)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Better to inconvenience a thousand than to inconvenience one, I guess.

I would gladly forgo lunch of peanut butter to save life. I guess nothing more important than your convenience.

24 posted on 09/09/2003 8:06:24 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: EggsAckley
The next logical step is to take the kid to a ball game, then sue whatever major league team it is, to stop selling peanuts in the stands between innings.
25 posted on 09/09/2003 8:07:32 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: Sub-Driver
I've had mixed feelings on this. Clearly, there's no evidence that an allergic reaction is triggered merely by being in the same room with peanut butter -- you have to eat it. So, there's no reason to ban peanut butter in kid's lunches -- as long as those kids with peanut allergies can be trusted not to accept food from anyone else.

But when it comes to 5 and 6 year olds, I'm not sure they can be trusted not to do so. Thus, they must either be tightly supervised during lunch (preferable, I think) or peanut butter must be banned. Of course, I'd be raising hell if they tried this in the later grades and I'd be raising it if they searched my kid's lunch without my prior consent.
26 posted on 09/09/2003 8:07:33 AM PDT by zook
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To: Sub-Driver
"By kindergarten, and certainly by first grade, my son was able to say, 'What is in that?' " she said. "Searching a lunch box is insane. This goes to personal responsibility not changing the rest of the world to fit you."


This lady acutally "gets it". My son is six and if he don't know what's in it, he ain't eatin' it.
27 posted on 09/09/2003 8:07:48 AM PDT by mtbrandon49 (Space For Rent)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
In school, there is a place for smut.

But do not allow any student to bring a nut.

28 posted on 09/09/2003 8:08:56 AM PDT by GOPologist
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
My allergy to dust mites triggered a case of pneumonia and put me in the hospital for 21 days. I would say dust mites CAN be life threatening.
29 posted on 09/09/2003 8:09:34 AM PDT by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: taxcontrol
Wow! I take it you get the shots, then, eh?
30 posted on 09/09/2003 8:10:34 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (RINOs for Schwarzenegger - Sowell, Coulter, Medved, Drier, Cox, Jarvis Foundation, Rohrbacher......)
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To: zook
People with peanut allergies don't have to ingest it to get ill. Merely touching the oil will make some very sick.
31 posted on 09/09/2003 8:11:03 AM PDT by Elvis van Foster
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To: Question_Assumptions
Not a matter of inconvenience. A peanut allergy, although rare, can be fatal. Even a very slight exposure could be fatal, especially at a place like a school or playground where there might be no special medical equipment (or an adult) close at hand.

Yes, it seems a pain in the rump that none of the kids can bring a PB&J to school, but the inconvenience to the kids is probably less damaging than the trauma that might occur if they see one of the playmates collapse and die.

32 posted on 09/09/2003 8:11:16 AM PDT by DonQ
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I DO understand the seriousness of that allergy, and now amend my opinion. But perhaps this child is just a little too vulnerable for public school.

I am violently allergic to curry, or at least some of its ingredients. Whenever I see food, sauces, rice, etc. that looks yellow, I always have to ask if it contains curry. Twice in restaurants I've been told no, but within five minutes of my first bite, well............you don't need to know my reaction. heheheh.

Not pleasant. But not deadly, or at least it doesn't stay in me long enough to be deadly.

I feel badly for this little boy. He has a rollercoaster life ahead of him.
33 posted on 09/09/2003 8:11:34 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: N3WBI3
If this were my child, I'm thinking an alternate education options. Home-school etc. Some how it seems oddly disconcerting that one child (read minority) controls/dictates to the rest of the school(read majority)
34 posted on 09/09/2003 8:11:38 AM PDT by Fighter@heart (This tag line is MINE!! Keep your "mitts" off!!)
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To: Alter Kaker
Why can't the teacher hold a special session for the whole class to understand the danger involved in giving the allergic kid any food! In addition, the parents should inform the school that the only food that this youngin can eat is food provided by the children's parents.

The parents could be in close contact with the school regarding special events and they could provide some treat for their son and his buds.

If we continue to force the will of one on many, then soon that will be the way of life here in the US. Oh, wait, it already is and now we are teaching an entire new crop of people that it is acceptable.
35 posted on 09/09/2003 8:11:39 AM PDT by CSM ("We have been assigned to the hall of Freep. No other work is allowed" - Equality 7-2521)
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To: Just another Joe; CSM
Exactly. Sick kids and public school don't mix. Are all peanut oil products banned from the school?
36 posted on 09/09/2003 8:12:54 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Of course I like it here. I just may not like you.)
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To: Sub-Driver
In our Sunday School class there is a little boy who is allergic to soy. Now you would not believe how many things contain soy. His mom has been nice enough to bring soy-free products for snack time.
37 posted on 09/09/2003 8:13:14 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (We are the Pirates Who Don't Do Anything)
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To: Question_Assumptions
What would be your number to inconvenience to save the life of one child. Until you have seen a child having reactions to peanut butter, and hoping the paramedics get there in time, don't assume anything. And yes, I have seen it.
38 posted on 09/09/2003 8:13:54 AM PDT by Texagirl4W
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To: zook
there's no evidence that an allergic reaction is triggered merely by being in the same room with peanut butter -- you have to eat it.

Not entirely true. As a child, I was allergic to strawberries. Not an anaphylaxic type allergy, just great big hives. If I walked into a store that had strawberries for sale, by the time I left I had hives, without even touching the fruit.

39 posted on 09/09/2003 8:14:13 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Savage Beast
Its all fun and games until somebody hires a lawyer.
40 posted on 09/09/2003 8:14:43 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: ctlpdad
So why can't the child with the peanut allergy be excluded...why is everyone ELSE jumping thru hoops? Thats upside down and bs. The kid that had the problem should have the onus, not everyone else.
41 posted on 09/09/2003 8:14:58 AM PDT by Adder
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To: Question_Assumptions
Better to inconvenience a thousand than to inconvenience one, I guess.

Don't you know it is his 'right' to nut-free education!

Maybe the govment can start a nut-free school like the hetrosexual-free school started in NY??

42 posted on 09/09/2003 8:15:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: EggsAckley
I once talked to one woman that was deathly allergic to pretty much every vegetable and every grain. Compounding it was an allergy to fish. About all she could eat was beef, pork, chicken and potatoes in small amounts.
43 posted on 09/09/2003 8:16:13 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (RINOs for Schwarzenegger - Sowell, Coulter, Medved, Drier, Cox, Jarvis Foundation, Rohrbacher......)
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To: Sub-Driver
Maybe if the school district had one kindergarten class in the district for kids with allergies, that'd be best for everyone. Or better yet, allow parents to use vouchers so they could send their kids to a private school or another public school that had a no-peanut policy. But at the moment, I can't really fault the school for taking peanut stuff from the other kids: 5 year olds really don't know better about sharing their lunches. And this kid could die from peanut allergies. I'm surprised there's no medicine that would combat this. After all, we got medicines that make bald guys grow hair or make their penises bigger. So why can't we have an anti-peanut med?
44 posted on 09/09/2003 8:17:29 AM PDT by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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To: ctlpdad
"The parents of other kindergarten students were informed of the situation in a letter from school officials, who decreed that "all kindergarten students will begin the day by washing hands with soap and water . . . supervised by classroom staff."

The next step is to have the kids brush their teeth and wash their hair; under adult supervision of course.

45 posted on 09/09/2003 8:17:56 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: zook
Clearly, there's no evidence that an allergic reaction is triggered merely by being in the same room with peanut butter -- you have to eat it. So, there's no reason to ban peanut butter in kid's lunches -- as long as those kids with peanut allergies can be trusted not to accept food from anyone else.

One kid eats a peanut butter sandwich. Being a kid, some residue remains on his hands. He touches a chair. The peanut oil is on the chair. The allergic child touches the same chair and then touches his mouth.

That's enough. My wife has seen a teen who went into a coma from eating brownies. They had no nuts in them, but the pan had been used before to make peanut butter cookies and and when it was washed not all of the peanut oil got removed.

SD

46 posted on 09/09/2003 8:18:30 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
People that are allergic to so many things usually have some psychological issue. I think John Stossel had a report about some people who supposedly were allergic to everything.
47 posted on 09/09/2003 8:18:32 AM PDT by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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To: Fighter@heart
Not everyone has the ability to homeschool. I don't know why this peanut allergy is a problem now when it wasn't years ago, but it is and it is deadly. My neighbor nearly lost her baby when someone put diaper creme on him while changing his diaper. Ironically, he was in the hospital at the time getting tests. That's how they discovered his allergy and had he not been there, he would probably have died. As much as I don't like to see the concerns of the one affect everyone, this time it is legit. Your child can enjoy his P & J at home.
48 posted on 09/09/2003 8:18:41 AM PDT by twigs
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To: mtbrandon49
I had multiple food allergies that were identified when I started kindergarten. I knew what I was supposed to eat and what I wasn’t and I always asked what was in things and declined if the answer wasn’t clear. My parents taught me how to handle my situation. We never expected anyone to sanitize anything just for me. I was always the one to make the concessions. Of course, my parents weren't liberal.
49 posted on 09/09/2003 8:19:18 AM PDT by meowmeow
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To: mtbrandon49
I had multiple food allergies that were identified when I started kindergarten. I knew what I was supposed to eat and what I wasn’t and I always asked what was in things and declined if the answer wasn’t clear. My parents taught me how to handle my situation. We never expected anyone to sanitize anything just for me. I was always the one to make the concessions. Of course, my parents weren't liberal.
50 posted on 09/09/2003 8:19:18 AM PDT by meowmeow
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