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Mother arrested after five children found living in-police surprised how well children were doing
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Posted on 09/10/2003 9:02:45 AM PDT by chance33_98

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To: chance33_98
People like that shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
21 posted on 09/10/2003 9:27:21 AM PDT by rwb
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Yes, all people with a bong and children, should have their kids stripped from them, heaven forbid.... who ever heard of a parent that smokes dope.... if only we can all be like the police who never have smoked dope or done drugs, who kids are perfect and never have troubles, who houses are pristine, and who are never slovenly.
22 posted on 09/10/2003 9:27:38 AM PDT by Porterville (I spell stuff wrong sometimes, get over yourself, you're not that great.)
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To: Porterville
I'll see if I can dig up the police report. Maybe it has more detail than the article.
23 posted on 09/10/2003 9:29:40 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: chance33_98
They discovered spoiled food, animal feces and drug paraphernalia all over the apartment. Despite the conditions, police were surprised to find how well the children were doing.

Thank God there were no killer peanuts present!

24 posted on 09/10/2003 9:30:25 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
What kind of an addicted sleaze leaves a bong on the coffee table in front of his/her kids?

We don't know what it was. The article doesn't indicate what they found.

25 posted on 09/10/2003 9:35:43 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (and tired of this screenname, too.)
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To: chance33_98
My wife and I did emergency foster care for years. This type of story is not that uncommon.
26 posted on 09/10/2003 9:37:38 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
but a crack-whore mom will usually receive custody due to bias in the family courts.

So he didn't care that she was a crack-whore all the while they were producing all these kids? Or was she a model homemaker who suddenly flipped out? No suggestion that they were ever married, either ...

I know we don't have the whole story here. I just wish there was *something* that would prevent parents (both) from creating these situations for their kids!

27 posted on 09/10/2003 9:38:18 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Pray for Terri Schiavo - hearing on 9-11 to schedule the execution!)
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To: chance33_98
Unfortunately, they'll be going home as soon as a parent says they'll sign up for treatment. (wheather they actually show up or not) The kids are now part of another SYSTEM. I pray it will get better.
28 posted on 09/10/2003 9:40:13 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: jalisco555
Well, the cat pooped outside the litter pan this morning, I left the anti-histamines out in the kitchen and the fridge sorely needs a thorough clean-out.

And don't forget laundry! I'm always behind in laundry. I can just see the headlines: "CPS Takes Children From Homeschooler: Authorities Find Spoiled Food (in the fridge) Drug Paraphenalia (old roach clips with feathers probably packed with my high school stuff - we thought they were cool to wear on our hats in the 70's) and Dirty Laundry. Amazingly, children are well-educated and clean."

29 posted on 09/10/2003 9:43:07 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (and tired of this screenname, too.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
spoiled food, animal feces and drug paraphernalia

C'mon, do you or anyone you know have any of these items regularly sitting around the house?

All 3 are health hazards, I'd say that qualifies as a problem. It is possible to catch diseases just from breathing in the dust from feces.

30 posted on 09/10/2003 9:45:11 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Porterville
Great questions.

There was a case in rural Idaho a couple of years ago. Same charges except it was empty beer bottles. The father had died after a long illness. Also, the family was virtually penniless after a lumber business failure (spotted owl struck again!) and the father's ill health. Both parents were from nice families. The father was from a prominent east coast family.

The local authorities actually planned to arrest the mother at the funeral but held off a couple of days and tricked her to come out of the home with a promise of driving her to get help.

When their mother failed to return and the police showed up to take them away the children got their guns and held off for a few days. The children thought their mother had been killed and they were not going without a fight.

In the end and after a few days in the hospital for check ups the children were pronounced in very good health, bright, and otherwise normal.

There's more to the story but basically the authorities got the family's property, sold it to a developer, pocketed the huge difference between back property taxes and the sale price, let the mother out of jail until the trial, convicted her of reduced charges, and the authorities lived happily ever after. I still have most of the news articles, etc. about the case.

31 posted on 09/10/2003 9:45:56 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Tired of Taxes
Porterville brought it up as a "no big deal" scenario. I have a lot of trouble with that.
32 posted on 09/10/2003 9:49:11 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (I'm just a mudblood RINO)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Fortunately, all the kids appear to be healthy and well cared for. Then, what is the definition of squalor?

I agree with you, that's why you have to read both the part I quoted, and then my reply. Because in my mind, I think these children were not being cared for. Squalor does not add to the health and safety of children. The drug paraphenalia worries me, too.

33 posted on 09/10/2003 9:49:50 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Porterville
People that are still hitting the bong and who live with their children should have them stripped.
34 posted on 09/10/2003 9:51:45 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (I'm just a mudblood RINO)
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To: jalisco555
Anybody who has a cat is already a bit off-center, in my book.
35 posted on 09/10/2003 10:03:13 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Think about what you just said the next time your cat rubs all over your face while you're trying to sleep.
36 posted on 09/10/2003 10:05:05 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
OK, sorry for my misinterpretation.
37 posted on 09/10/2003 10:18:33 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Old Professer
Anybody who has a cat is already a bit off-center, in my book.

Uh-oh. I wonder what five cats make me then.

38 posted on 09/10/2003 10:22:02 AM PDT by jalisco555 (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
People that are still hitting the bong and who live with their children should have them stripped.

Are you volunteering to feed, clothe, and shelter them?

Or are you volunteering me, via social programs?

39 posted on 09/10/2003 10:24:01 AM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You aren't concerned when the state and fed feel it necessary to take away people's children and property? It always makes me nervous.
40 posted on 09/10/2003 10:25:30 AM PDT by Porterville (I spell stuff wrong sometimes, get over yourself, you're not that great.)
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