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Bush not a 'bad man,' just a 'bad president' (An interview with Senator Lieberman)
USA Today ^ | 9/10/3 | Senator Joeseph Lieberman

Posted on 09/11/2003 12:58:21 PM PDT by presidio9

Q: Political experts say your moderate views would make you a strong candidate against President Bush (news - web sites). But they also say those same views make it difficult for you to win the Democratic nomination because so many party activists are to your left. How do you connect with those Democrats?

A: After 30 years in public service, I have a record. I am what I am, I believe what I believe, and I'm going to stand for what I think is right for the country. That's the test of leadership, and it's what the voters are looking for: somebody they can trust to be their president, to protect them, to take care of them. Like most people in the country, I look at each issue separately and decide what I think is right for the country's future. On domestic issues I have a record of social progress and real support for social justice. I'd compare my record on environmental justice, or a woman's right to choose, or very aggressive opposition to any form of discrimination, to any of the other Democratic candidates. And, of course, I'd compare it as day to night to the current president's record. Several of the other Democratic candidates are taking positions on fiscal responsibility, trade, defense, tax cuts for the middle class, that are exactly the opposite of President Clinton (news - web sites)'s in '92 positions that helped Clinton and Gore win.

Q: Bill Clinton (news - web sites) also made the economy the primary issue in '92. In 9/11's aftermath, is the economy still the overriding issue?

A: It's both security and prosperity. What's most on the minds of the American people now is the economy, health insurance and education but particularly the economy and fear of job loss. The Democratic candidate has to gain the public's confidence that we can protect the American people here at home and in the world. Once we convince them we can do it at least as well as Bush has, then we will win. I've found as I've gone around the country that there is this crisis in the loss of manufacturing jobs. So far I don't see any leadership on this. I have a long-term manufacturing renewal program investments in innovation, tax credits for manufacturers who stay here, job training for workers. But right now, American manufacturing is like a patient in the emergency room.

Q: How would your approach to Iraq have differed from Bush's?

A: I am concerned about misleading statements the administration made before the war but particularly about the really shocking lack of preparedness by the president for post-Saddam Iraq, which has threatened to give a bad name to what really was a just war. Administration officials were angry that the Europeans and others, the United Nations (news - web sites), didn't support us, and they carried that anger to a point that is hurtful to us. I would have reached out to NATO (news - web sites) and the U.N., even before the war, and said, 'OK, we're disappointed you didn't come with us, but we need your help in post-Saddam Iraq to secure the country.' I said before the war that we shouldn't send an American administrator in there, we should send a third-country administrator, preferably from an Arab country. We should have brought in this Iraq governing council immediately. I'd also be over there myself or have my secretary of State traveling around Europe, the Islamic world, the Arab world, and saying, 'Look at what they're doing to not just us, but you. We're in this together.' This is a very fateful moment.

Q: Should more American troops be sent to Iraq?

A: We certainly need more troops there hopefully, some of them international. We need different kinds of troops, too: civil and political affairs officers to work on the political reconstruction and the earliest possible Iraqi self-government; more corps of engineers types to get basic services restored. We cannot retreat, we cannot withdraw from this. Failure is not an option here because this is now a major test in the war on terrorism. If we lose it, we are in for some very dangerous years for ourselves and our children.

Q: How is your health insurance plan better than your opponents'?

A: My plan will give every American access to affordable health insurance, contain costs and improve the quality of care. We will cover more people at a lower per-person cost than any other Democrats' plans. We will cover 30 million to 40 million more people than Bush's plan, because he has no plan. MediKids will guarantee your child access to affordable health insurance until age 25. Any child in a family whose income is up to 185% of the poverty level, about $34,000, will not pay anything. Then there will be a sliding scale up to full cost. We also promise that if you lose your job you won't lose your health insurance. We'll require employers to continue to cover its costs for two months after an employee is laid off. Then we give the worker the opportunity to become part of what I call MediChoice. They can buy into the same pool that federal employees' health insurance comes from.

Q: Your health plan would cost $55 billion a year money we don't have. How will you pay for it?

A: We've got to take back some parts of the Bush tax cut and redirect those funds to more important needs, including health insurance and reducing the deficit. You can't have everything; leadership is about priorities. That is why we're going to do this health insurance plan step by step, as our economy allows.

Q: Democrats have lost nearly all the advantages they had over Republicans on education. Can you regain that advantage?

A: Bush's record on education is abysmal. It's been marketing and no delivery; the so-called 'No Child Left Behind Act,' except he left behind all the money necessary to redeem the promises made in the act. The American people know that their kids are not getting the high quality education they need to make it today, particularly if they are lower income.

Q: What is the key to winning the presidency in 2004?

A: Probably the toughest campaign I ever waged was when I ran in 1988 against a three-term incumbent senator. An expert told me that to win you have to convince the voters of Connecticut to fire him and hire you. You don't have to convince them he's an evil person, just that he's not doing the job they hired him to do. I'm not here to say George Bush is a bad man. But he's been a very bad president for the American people.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; algorelostgetoverit; droopy; electionpresident; lieberman; soreloserman

1 posted on 09/11/2003 12:58:23 PM PDT by presidio9
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POS
2 posted on 09/11/2003 1:01:01 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Honk!! ...if you are being followed by leftists too.)
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To: presidio9
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
3 posted on 09/11/2003 1:01:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Whiners & PC'ers.......members of the new OFFENDED Political Party)
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To: presidio9
We know exactly what you are Joe LIEberman. A lying scheming louse who will do and say anything for a bit of power.

No morals, no integrity, and no honor.

4 posted on 09/11/2003 1:01:44 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: presidio9
Give it up, Joe. Your efforts are best employed at this point by attacking the front-running, anti-war, Islamist-loving Dean, since you yourself don't have a chance in hell. Understand your role, and play it well.
5 posted on 09/11/2003 1:02:48 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: presidio9
SORE LOSERMAN!

SORE LOSERMAN!

SORE LOSERMAN!
6 posted on 09/11/2003 1:05:02 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Lieberman's not stupid. That "Bush is not a bad man, just a bad President" theme would be a very good one for a Dem running against Bush. And just to be clear, I'm not saying he is a bad President. I'm simply saying that atacking him for his job performance rather than attacming him personally is smarter political strategy.

Fortunately, the other Dems are all in attack-dog mode, and will probably stoop to personal attacks that will not sit well with the majority of voters. Whether they agree with him or not, a great many Americans like Bush as a person, and personal attacks will backfire.

7 posted on 09/11/2003 1:06:09 PM PDT by XJarhead
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To: OldFriend
Joe and Al's buddy Clinton was not only a bad president but a bad man. Two for two uh Joe.
8 posted on 09/11/2003 1:08:44 PM PDT by AngieGOP
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To: Mr. Mojo
The liberal press is so in love with Dean that they have already annointed him the winner. What they are not telling you is that when Democrats are asked: "If the Democratic primary for president were held today and the candidates were [see below], for whom would you vote?" it is a statistical dead heat 16% to 12%, with 38% undecided. When Democrats are asked to name the person they are most likely to vote for next November, they overwhelming choose Lieberman, unless Hillary is included, in which case she is the clear winner. The idea that Dean is the front runner is a fabrication.
9 posted on 09/11/2003 1:09:57 PM PDT by presidio9 (Run Al Run!!!)
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To: presidio9
I'm surprised nobody has posted the Ed Koch quote played
on RUSH today. Koch castigates his fellow Democrats for knocking Bush, compliments Bush's presidency AND says, "I am a Democrat....but I will be voting for Bush". I say that
is big news! Let's see if any of the media (other than FOX and RUSH) report it. Any bets?
10 posted on 09/11/2003 1:10:08 PM PDT by Winfield
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To: presidio9
"Bush not a 'bad man,' just a 'bad president'"

And Clinton was/is a . . . . ?

11 posted on 09/11/2003 1:11:08 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: XJarhead
Oh I agree completely, but as successful (and smart) as this strategy is I still can't imagine that Lieberman has anything anything but an outside chance to win the Dem nomination. ...A real outside chance. He's too pro-WOT, too pro-Israel, and too (relatively) socially conservative for RAT stomachs.
12 posted on 09/11/2003 1:12:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: presidio9; XJarhead
When Democrats are asked to name the person they are most likely to vote for next November, they overwhelming choose Lieberman

That, I didn't know.

13 posted on 09/11/2003 1:13:26 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Africa americans will never vote for holy joe. They hate Israel and they hate LIEberman.
14 posted on 09/11/2003 1:15:43 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: presidio9
I have a record. I am what I am, I believe what I believe, and I'm going to stand for what I think is right for the country.

Gee, Joe, I kinda look at you as someone who believes right is whatever gets you elected. And you have the record to prove it.

15 posted on 09/11/2003 1:17:50 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: presidio9
Joe can't be appointed to the top of the ticket. He has to win elections and he can't, not with the looney left Dim base. Just call him Looserman.
16 posted on 09/11/2003 1:18:30 PM PDT by colorado tanker (USA - taking out the world's trash since 1776)
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To: presidio9
We also promise that if you lose your job you won't lose your health insurance. We'll require employers to continue to cover its costs for two months after an employee is laid off.

Oh great. Stick it to the businesses again, big or small.

17 posted on 09/11/2003 1:18:52 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething
If I am not mistaken some states already require a company to continue the health care for a short period of time after you've been laid off.
18 posted on 09/11/2003 1:20:14 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: presidio9
Didn't I see Li(eb)er•man on TV when I was a kid? It's How do I do time.


Joe Lier man

19 posted on 09/11/2003 1:27:05 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Mr. Mojo
Watch the press carefully. They do so love lying.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem.htm
20 posted on 09/11/2003 1:27:14 PM PDT by presidio9 (Run Al Run!!!)
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To: Winfield
We were discussing the Koch comments on the LIVE thread earlier today. You can be sure there will be NO mention of this in the elite media. He was interviewed by Wolf Blitzed when he darned near gave CNN heart failure!!!!! LOLOL
21 posted on 09/11/2003 1:33:45 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: presidio9

22 posted on 09/11/2003 1:34:17 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: presidio9
LIEberman: "I am concerned about misleading statements the administration made before the war but particularly about the really shocking lack of preparedness by the president for post-Saddam Iraq, which has threatened to give a bad name to what really was a just war."

He is a twit...Nuff said...

DD

23 posted on 09/11/2003 1:40:33 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (God bless us, one and all)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Nice Photo!!!

I always knew LIEberman was on the DARK SIDE, now you provide evidence!!!

GOOD WORK!!!

DD

P.S. LIEberman is still a twit...

24 posted on 09/11/2003 1:44:03 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (God bless us, one and all)
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To: presidio9
Liberman visited my hometown during election 2000. I observed first hand what a hypocritical, malicious, greedy, socialistic, power-grabbing, race pandering, sorry excuse for a man he really is.

Every now and then he says something that could be taken as semi-patriotic, which probably fools a few fools. He will never get elected.

25 posted on 09/11/2003 1:48:07 PM PDT by Roughneck (Like Terrorists? Vote for democrats in 2004.)
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To: presidio9
Q. Senator Liberman, how much of the Russian money Marc Rich Laundered in Switzerland did you get for changing your mind about President Clinton's impeachment?

A.

26 posted on 09/11/2003 1:50:56 PM PDT by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: presidio9
Hey Joe, how many absentee military votes do you have hidden in your closet.....I will never forget what you and your little toadie, algore, tried to do.
27 posted on 09/11/2003 1:56:31 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Happy Birthday, Mike...wish you were here.)
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To: presidio9
We've got to take back some parts of the Bush tax cut and redirect those funds to more important needs, including health insurance and reducing the deficit.

Yeah, I want you to take some of my money and give it to people who don't have health insurance. Good plan, Joe.

28 posted on 09/11/2003 1:56:32 PM PDT by cruiserman
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To: presidio9
It's been marketing and no delivery; the so-called 'No Child Left Behind Act,' except he left behind all the money necessary to redeem the promises made in the act.

Hmmm....

Increases federal education funding under the ESEA to more than $22.1 billion for America's elementary and secondary schools - a 27 percent increase over last year, and a 49 percent increase over 2000 levels.

Increases federal funding to an estimated $10.4 billion for the Title I program to help disadvantaged students succeed - an 18 percent increase over last year, and a 30 percent increase over 2000 levels.

Provides nearly $3 billion in federal funding to recruit and retain highly qualified teachers and principals.

Boosts funding for reading programs to nearly $1 billion so every child in America learns to read.

Provides an estimated $200 million for charter schools to expand parental choice and free children trapped in persistently failing schools.

Source

In fact, for fiscal year 2003, Congress provided $11.75 billion in funding for Title I, which is a 12%, increase over the previous fiscal year. The President's budget proposal for fiscal year 2004, which was released before Congress finished the appropriations process for fiscal year 2003, requests $1 billion over his previous year's request. If the President's request is enacted by Congress, Title I funding will have increased 41% since the passage of the No Child Left Behind Act. Also, to offset the direct costs for developing and administering the required assessments, the No Child Left Behind Act contains a provision whereby, in any given year, if Congress fails to appropriate a set minimum amount to cover the cost of assessments, states would not be required to administer the assessments that year.

Source

As a result of the No Child Left Behind Act, the federal government today is spending more money on elementary and secondary (K-12) education than at any other time in the history of the United States. The federal Title I grants to states and local schools have increased by an historic $2.95 billion (from $8.8 billion in FY 2001, the final Clinton budget, to $11.75 billion in FY 2003) since the hallmark education reform legislation was signed into law. In fact, Title I funding has received a larger combined increase during the first two years of President Bush’s administration than it received in the previous seven combined under President Clinton.

In addition, the FY04 Budget resolution passed by Congress provides yet another significant increase for federal education - $3 billion, or 6%, over the FY03 level. This includes a $1 billion increase for Title I funding, bringing the total to $12.7 billion for FY2004, if the budget is enacted.

Source

Three credible sources that prove Lieberman doesn't have a clue..besides, Bush can't authorize funding, that has to be done by Congress...of which Lieberman is a member...what a dolt.

29 posted on 09/11/2003 2:02:15 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: OldFriend
COBRA - Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act

But under COBRA, the employee pays the whole cost + 2%, and in some cases, 150%. At least in Georgia. Lieberman is saying the employer will pay.

the following is from the website http://www.healthinsuranceinfo.net/ga03.html :

What can I be charged for COBRA coverage?
• You must pay the entire premium (employer and employee share, plus a 2% administrative fee) for COBRA continuation coverage. The first premium must be paid within 45 days of electing COBRA coverage.

• If you elect the 11-month disability extension, the premium will increase to 150% of the total cost of coverage. See below for more information about the disability extension.



30 posted on 09/11/2003 2:05:59 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: presidio9
We will cover 30 million to 40 million more people than Bush's plan, because he has no plan.

Oh really now...

How the President's Health Care Plan Would Expand Insurance Coverage to the Uninsured

31 posted on 09/11/2003 2:14:28 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
What a piece orf shit. I am what I am. Well I know of at least 10 things where he changed what he were.
32 posted on 09/11/2003 2:27:19 PM PDT by cksharks
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To: Winfield
I'm surprised nobody has posted the Ed Koch quote played on RUSH today. Koch castigates his fellow Democrats for knocking Bush, compliments Bush's presidency AND says, "I am a Democrat....but I will be voting for Bush". I say that is big news! Let's see if any of the media (other than FOX and RUSH) report it. Any bets?

Apparently, Matt Lauer was not enjoying this interview either.

Can you imagine Hillary's reaction? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

33 posted on 09/11/2003 2:32:57 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: presidio9
It truly hurts my head to listen to that man. His voice is somewhere between a whine and a moan and it is truly painful to hear. That's why I don't listen to him, apart from the fact that he has nothing to say that I want to hear, anyway!
34 posted on 09/11/2003 2:34:51 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: presidio9
I liked LIEberman better when he did magic and kept his mouth shut.


35 posted on 09/11/2003 2:38:27 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Eastbound
And Clinton was/is a . . . . ?

a word not to be uttered in polite company.

36 posted on 09/11/2003 3:00:46 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://totallyunjust.hypermart.net)
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To: eyespysomething
My daughter was laid off in CO and I believe she was told that her health care continued for a short period of time. Possibly for the duration of the severance pacakge. I don't remember the details.

Perhaps another freeper can fill in the details.

37 posted on 09/11/2003 3:53:11 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: presidio9
LIEberman has no idea what a bad president is.
He worships the Clinton altar that is shaped like a kneeling intern and has mammon and crossus written on it.

38 posted on 09/11/2003 6:05:57 PM PDT by Darksheare (LIEberman has no idea what truth is, after all, he's Howdy Doodie's twin puppet.)
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To: presidio9
Loserman is not only a BAD MAN - he's a BAD SENATOR!!
39 posted on 09/11/2003 7:31:49 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: CyberAnt
He is a JERK! Enough said!!
40 posted on 09/11/2003 7:39:47 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!!)
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To: presidio9
Shut up Droopy. Biggest two face in the senate.
41 posted on 09/11/2003 7:40:43 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Our party will never be the choice of the NRA" - John F. Kerry, who looks French)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
A: Probably the toughest campaign I ever waged was when I ran in 1988 against a three-term incumbent senator. An expert told me that to win you have to convince the voters of Connecticut to fire him and hire you. You don't have to convince them he's an evil person, just that he's not doing the job they hired him to do. I'm not here to say George Bush is a bad man. But he's been a very bad president for the American people.

He wouldn't have needed to work very hard to convince me that Lowell Weicker was an evil person if he had wanted to.

42 posted on 09/11/2003 7:46:22 PM PDT by Nathaniel Fischer (Herman Cain for Senate!)
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To: presidio9
Joe, you had your fifteen minutes of fame. It's over. You lost. (Loserman)
43 posted on 09/11/2003 7:47:02 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: presidio9
Let's see:Bush let 9/11 happen, Bush is sending our young men and women to fight and die in a war for oil and to make him and his friends rich, Bush lied about Saddam Hussein and Iraq, Bush covered up warnings on the air quality around Ground Zero so the rescue workers and other NYers would get health problems... on and on with Demonrat and Lieberman criticism and you gotta say it doesn't jive with their attempts to play politics and act as if they are civil and "Bush is a good man, but" and go to tactics in calling him a moron, etc. They really are a party with a dark and wicked purpose that is overrun by liberal, hatefilled frauds.
44 posted on 09/12/2003 7:37:11 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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