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Stolen Boeing 727 Feared In Hands of al-Qaeda
Bush Country ^ | 091103 | Gordon Thomas

Posted on 09/11/2003 7:59:59 PM PDT by ranair34

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Missing jet likely stripped for parts
Oakland Tribune, CA - Aug 31, 2003
... the family as extremely close, and said, "if he was alive and knew all this mess
was going on, he would contact us." Another brother had e-mailed Ben Padilla ...

What has happened to a Boeing 727 that mysteriously disappeared ...
American Free Press, D.C. - Aug 24, 2003
... Another urgent concern is to discover the fate of Ben Padilla, the 51-year-old American
“bush pilot” who was at the controls of the 727 when it suddenly ...

Case of Missing Jetliner Unsolved
Washington Post, DC - Aug 22, 2003
... He said: "[I]f he was alive and knew all this mess was going on, he would contact
us." Another brother had e-mailed Ben Padilla in Africa days before the ...

41 posted on 09/11/2003 8:21:09 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: TomGuy
An unscheduled flight of a fairly large airplane, however, strikes me as a somewhat easier thing to spot approaching the country.

Of course, there are circumstances where such a plane might get into U.S. airspace under some ruse... but it is also highly likely that such a flight would be much more interceptable than some other regularly scheduled flight.

I hope.
42 posted on 09/11/2003 8:21:33 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: cmsgop
Thanks.
43 posted on 09/11/2003 8:21:33 PM PDT by xzins
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To: Brian S
So what is the geography on where it has been spotted? And is this why we got new warning today? We were warned that without a doubt we are going to have a chem/bio attack, like the bad in-laws coming to visit. So you know our government knows alot!
44 posted on 09/11/2003 8:21:56 PM PDT by JustPiper ( FREEREPUBLIC.COM is the ONLY Fair and Balanced News!!!)
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To: GOP_Proud
Post 65

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931538/posts?q=1&&page=51
45 posted on 09/11/2003 8:22:04 PM PDT by cmsgop (If you Sprinkle When You Tinkle,...Be a Sweetie and Wipe the Seatie......Priceless!!!!!!!!)
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To: FlyVet
< I'm going to wager the author of this is a bit odoriferous. >

Don't know about "odoriferous" but it does smell.
46 posted on 09/11/2003 8:22:08 PM PDT by GOP_Proud
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To: Husker24
There's virtualy zero chance of this pane making it high or low into DC.
47 posted on 09/11/2003 8:22:47 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: GOP_Proud
Wasn't there a Padilla they naile dher in Chicago?
48 posted on 09/11/2003 8:23:07 PM PDT by JustPiper ( FREEREPUBLIC.COM is the ONLY Fair and Balanced News!!!)
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To: cmsgop
What I seriously agree with is that his brother is dead.
49 posted on 09/11/2003 8:25:00 PM PDT by GOP_Proud
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To: xzins
Love to help,Thank You!
50 posted on 09/11/2003 8:25:03 PM PDT by cmsgop (If you Sprinkle When You Tinkle,...Be a Sweetie and Wipe the Seatie......Priceless!!!!!!!!)
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To: willy WOXOF
Well, they seem to enjoy stealing them. See 9/11.
51 posted on 09/11/2003 8:25:28 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: newgeezer
> Google News doesn't appear to have any related story.

Google not only can be viewed on your PC -- Google is P.C.

52 posted on 09/11/2003 8:26:32 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: newgeezer
Here>

Just type in Stolen Boeing 727 in the searc at FR and you'll find plenty ;_)

53 posted on 09/11/2003 8:28:53 PM PDT by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper
I wish I knew...all I have to go by is what has been posted for reference here on this thread.

What I also know is that NO ONE has been able to definitively declared the plane found and secured.

She is still out there from what I can tell. Hopefully with a snout full of desert, fine grain sand!!!
54 posted on 09/11/2003 8:30:03 PM PDT by Brian S (Vote Freedom First!)
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To: Pro-Bush; FairOpinion
Ping!
55 posted on 09/11/2003 8:31:00 PM PDT by JustPiper
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To: ranair34
The terrorists would NOT need a whole lot of fuel in a plane to bring down another plane by crashing into it in the air.

The crash would destroy the other plane and likely kill all people on board even if the terrorists' plane was down to its last gallon of fuel.

The extra fuel capacity could give the plane a greater flight range. However, if the bad guys are planning to use the explosive/fire impact of the extra fuel, they would likely attack some target other than a plane in flight.
56 posted on 09/11/2003 8:31:22 PM PDT by BillF
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To: ranair34
I FOUND IT, I FOUND IT!!!! Sort of. Actually, check out this website to find out what they are looking for http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N844AA&distinct_entry=true I worked for AA for years so there's a VERY good chance that I worked on this plane or within a few hundred feet of it several times.
57 posted on 09/11/2003 8:34:26 PM PDT by BallparkBoys
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http://www.freedomofthought.com/archives/000104.html

Subject: Missing Boeing 727 Plane from Angola on May 25 2003.

Yes,

I am Joseph B. Padilla, SR.

I live in Pensacola, Florida - U.S.A.

I am the Brother of Ben Charles Padilla Jr.

He is suspected to be the Pilot of the Missing Boeing 727

Plane that left the Airport in Angola on May 25 2003.

I am tring to reach news organizations to help me locate anyone that has seen or heard anything about this missing plane or my brother.

I appeared on ABC's , Good Morning Amercia alone with my Sister Benita Padilla-Kirkland on June 19 2003 in hopes to get the story out and to Locate my brother.

We both also appeared on CNN's Morning show, American Morning on June 24 2003.

Can you please help me by broadcasting a story or by your website news or newspaper?

I have alot of information about the dissapearance of the plane and my brother.

You can contact me at : 850-944-9688 or either by e-mail - padilla1956@cox.net

I hope that you will give me your help in hopes that someone seeing the story will either know something about the dissappearance of the plane and my brother or know someone that does.

Here is what I have so far about the story.

As in the begining as I told ABC News on The Good Morning America Show that I appeared on in New York, I thought that the Boeing 727 Plane had been sitting there in Angola for 14 months unattended to and not maintained.

Now, I have found out that My Brother, Ben Charles Padilla, Jr. had been in Angola for 2 months overseeing a crew of aircraft mechanics re-working the plane from one end to the other.

A B-Check was done and it was found to be fine. I talked to the owner of the plane, Mr. Maury Joseph, which is also the owner of Aerospace Sales And Leasing in South Florida.

I too live in florida, Pensacola, Fl. and my brother too was born and raised here.

Maury Joseph told me that he was there in Angola two weeks before the disappearance to see how things were going with the re-build of the 727 and also talked to my brother 2 days before the plane became missing and he had sent my brother $43,000.00 for him to pay the fees to the airport there in Angola. My brother paid the airport and faxed Maury Joseph the reciept, This is what Maury Joseph told me this past friday night during our two and a half hour phone conversation.

My brother was also incharge of the hiring of a pilot and co-pilot. He was to be the Flight Engineer for the flight out of Angola for the repossession of the Boeing 727 plane. My brother is not licensed to fly a 727 and never has flown an aircraft this large.

He is a Licensed Aircraft Mechanic, Flight Engineer, and Pilot of smaller airplanes.

I was told that he had took the plane out to the end of the runway and ran the engines up to check to see how they performed.

I feel that when my brother was checking the engines, someone was on the plane and hijacked him.

My brother isn't a criminal nor has never done any wrong doings.

Maury Joseph told me that he trusts my brother and doesn't believe the reports of my brother stealing the plane. Maury Joseph also told me that he had talked to the Airport there in Angola and had found out that the control tower had radioed the 727 and told them as they were headed out to the runway to take off, that they didn't have clearance nor permission to take off and the tower never recieved a response from the 727.

I talked to my brother Ben Padilla, Jr. back in either Jan. or Feb. and we talked about the Sept. 11 2001 ordeal and he himself told me that if this sort of thing ever happend to him, that he would down the plane in a New York Second. So, with that said I really believe my brother was hijacked and taken prisonier and held against his will and possibly was killed.

My mother had a heart attack on Mothers day and my brother was e-mailed about this and he responded to the e-mail he recieved from another brother of ours and told him that he would contact us as soon as he could and we haven't heard anything from him. So, that tells me that something isn't right since he would of contacted the family about our mother.

I have talked to the FBI and State Department in Washington, D.C. and all they are willing to tell me is that they have not found my brother nor the plane. So, I am tring to search for any information that I can get thru news organizations.

I find alot of stories on the internet and try to get any of the news organizations to run this story.

I also include a couple of pictures of my brother so incase anyone knows anything or has seen him before, to please contact me.

I am including in this e-mail 2 pictures of him incase you run this story inwhich I hope you do.

I would like to include my e-mail address and phone number incase some one reads or sees this that they can contact me. My phone number is, 850-944-9688 and my e-mail address is, padilla1956@cox.net

Our family has already lost 2 siblings and can not bear to lose another one.

I would appreciate any help you can give me. If you need any additional information, Please don't hesitate to contact me.

Thank you so much for your time.

Joseph B. Padilla, SR.

Posted by: Joseph B. Padilla, SR. on September 9, 2003 10:05 PM

58 posted on 09/11/2003 8:34:46 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: JustPiper
Hmm... so, that is the same plane. I'd heard that one was found, and thought this article was "news." Guess I'll have to start actually reading the articles before posting to them. ;O)

Thanks.

59 posted on 09/11/2003 8:34:55 PM PDT by newgeezer (...until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.)
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To: Ronin
This is just plain silly. As stated on previous threads, the idea that you could "hide" a 727 in the dessert is impossible.

I dunno about a 727, but there's that old legend about smuggling knives into prison by hiding them in a dessert...

60 posted on 09/11/2003 8:38:27 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat ((ya know, baked in a cake))
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