Skip to comments.Memo shows Iraq, Iran tried to contact bin Laden
Posted on 09/12/2003 3:56:52 AM PDT by Miss MarpleEdited on 07/12/2004 4:08:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The Taliban claimed in a 1997 meeting with U.S. officials that it had blocked attempts by both Iraq and Iran to contact Osama bin Laden, according to a previously confidential State Department memo made public yesterday.
The memo says that the assistant secretary of state, Karl Inderfurth, was told on Dec. 7, 1997, by the Taliban's acting minister of mines and industry, Armad Jan, that his government "had stopped allowing [bin Laden] to give public interviews and had frustrated Iranian and Iraqi efforts to contact him."
(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...
Thanks do Doctor Zin for alerting me o this sory on the Iranian thread!
Standard Clintonista lame attempt at deflecting damning evidence. Next, he will state that his diary lied to him.
Well, when you have to choose between filing memos or destroying & pilfering office equipment/supplies, which would you choose?
They are coming to Iraq now, because of the collapse of order.
It all depends on what your definition of "evidence" is.
AQ is fighting for their very survival and taking advantage of a temporary situation in Iraq. In that you care correct.
However, AQ and Iraq began working together after the first Gulf War. Hussein's sons mentioned this in their OWN STATE RUN NEWSPAPER some months before the war this year.
Additionally, there is ample evidence of OBL/AQ and Iraq working together. I have links to dozens of articles/books about this subject matter, but have come to understand there are some who do not want to believe in this linkage between the groups. Such is life.
Don't ever give up trying to educate others...
While the Prague meeting has been refuted by some officials, people seem to forget that Farouk Hijazi, an Iraqi intelligence officer met with bin Laden in Kandahar in Dec 1998.
Also forgotten is that in 1998, two of bin Ladens senior military commanders, Muhammad Abu-Islam and Abdullah Qassim, visited Baghdad for discussions with Qusay Hussein. This and info on other meetings can be found here.
Also in 1998, an Arab intelligence officer, who knows Saddam personally, predicted in Newsweek: "Very soon you will be witnessing large-scale terrorist activity run by the Iraqis." The Arab official said these terror operations would be run under "false flags" --spook-speak for front groups--including bin Laden's organization.
Then there were the predictions by an Iraqi with ties to Iraqi intelligence, Naeem Abd Mulhalhal, in Qusay's own newspaper several weeks before the attacks that stated bin Laden would demolish the Pentagon after he destroys the White House and bin Laden would strike America on the arm that is already hurting. (referencing a second IRAQI sponsored attack on the World Trade Center). Another reference to New York was [bin Laden] will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra everytime he hears his songs. (e.g., New York, New York) which identified New York, New York as a target. Mulhalhal also stated, The wings of a dove and the bullet are all but one and the same in the heart of a believer." which references an airplane attack.
The Arabic language daily newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabic also cited the cooperation between Iraq, bin Laden and Al December 1998 editorial, which predicted that President Saddam Hussein, whose country was subjected to a four day air strike, will look for support in taking revenge on the United States and Britain by cooperating with Saudi oppositionist Osama Bin-Laden, whom the United States considers to be the most wanted person in the world. This info is in the link provided in the para above. How could these people have had foreknowledge without Iraq being involved?
And what about Ramzi Yousef (known to his associates as "Rashid the Iraqi, was convicted of the 1993 WTC bombing and entered the US on an Iraqi passport) and his uncle Khalid Shaikh Mohammed who was the paymaster for bin Laden.
There are just too many things that point to Iraqi involvement, even without the refuted evidence.
In addition, I think the American people are very understanding, once they know the circumstances. I am sure there are security reasons and international relationship reasons as to why we do not publish more of this, but once again, I think the terrorism war is serious enough to allow Bush to "level" with the public....thoughts?
However, two books are currently out on Clinton's security failures, and little drips like this week after week are gradually seeping into the American consciousness. Plus, Clinton must be afraid of something...he has been awfully quiet lately.
Bush vehemently believes in courtesy and not attacking a prior officeholder by name. He also knows that this election coming up is already going to be divisive...throwing fuel on the fire won't help the country.
Bosh. If Iraq was as calm as Sweden by now it wouldn't make a lick of difference to the terrorists. Like Afghanistan before it, they come to Iraq to fight and kill the Infidel who fights for the liberation of those whom they seek to oppress.
No, they did not.
Hussein's sons mentioned this in their OWN STATE RUN NEWSPAPER some months before the war this year.
Look, Hussein's sons could claim that they have lunch with Elvis Presley every Tuesday but you should not take it at face value, even if it were printed black and white in "their OWN STATE RUN NEWSPAPER".
Hey, majority of Americans believe that Iraqis were among the WTC bombers. Are you the part of this majority?
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Sources, please. What did he do?
It was a very clever disguise. Probably he wanted to turn the attention away from with his secret links with McVeigh co-conspirator Terry Nichols . Besides, Iraqi passport at that time was the best way to get easy entry to America.
Give me a break, Miss.
Go right ahead with your denial of a connection which is obvious to almost the entire nation. I have given you proof: you don't want to accept it.
Entire nation (97% in EVERY nation) give different answers to the IQ test that the 3% with IQ above 130. So? The truth is not democratic.
I have given you proof: you don't want to accept it. Pbbbt!
That he entered US on Iraqi passport?! PROOF for what?!
There are many others who are more than willing
to expose the Clintons. Bush doesn't have to get involved.
Go ahead and follow those Rat type folks, who think there is no connection. I am done trying to talk to you, because if Saddam Hussein had been photographed passing money to Osama bin Laden, you would say the photo was doctored. You just refuse to believe anything that contradicts your mind-set.
Hey, you live in a free country so you have right to your opinions.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
You: "Standard Clintonista lame attempt at deflecting damning evidence. Next, he will state that his diary lied to him."
Exactly! Inderfurth starts by saying the Taliban's claim "was not credible at the time". By which he apparently means there were no attempts -- to his knowledge. But how would he know?
And, to him, this is somehow evidence that there were no attempts. He prefers to stick his head in the sand and deny the more likely probability.
You nailed it. Typical word parsing to cover up.
Where do these POS learn to conducts themselves?
One hesitates to blurt out "Ivy League colleges". But here is Inderfurth's biography. UNC, Fulbright scholar (Strathclyde), Princeton, State Department, UN, etc. It speaks for itself...
When lying is second nature and truth ever optional, you get creeps like this.
One wonders how GWB managed to avoid the taint. But I have the distinct impression that he was notably unimpressed by his fellow students and professors at Yale and Harvard. I'm thinking the Ivies are under-represented at the highest levels of his administration.
Great points, especially about the TRUTH, being a mere option.
Everytime I hear or read the slithering, shifting words of one of these reptiles, my baser nature comes to the fore, and rather than reason, I simply want to strangle.
Have you seen this old article? I didn't know if you needed it, or not. :)
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