US Manufacturing's Steep Decline Calls for New Trade Policies

TradeAlert.org ^ | Thursday, September 11, 2003 | William R. Hawkins

[hedgetrimmer]

He thinks that the US economy was never managed.

It was never managed by the global socialists at the WTO like it is today.

[harpseal]

I owe nothing to the WTO except opposition. It is a multinational entity that seeks to dictate the governence of the nations which are its memebers. i am an American not some neo-liberal follower of an anti-American philosphy that thinks tariffs are some kind of infringement on God given liberty when the US Constitution was set up to govern the intercourse with other soverign nations and tariffs are an inherenrt part of that soveriegnity.

[jas3]

It was never managed by the global socialists at the WTO like it is today.

That was not his point. His argument was that it was NEVER mangaged by anyone ever.

[jas3]

Jesus would be a free trader and would oppose tariffs.

Pay what you owe to the WTO.

Stop the personal abuse.

[harpseal]

I have engaged in no personal abuse and the anti-hristian comments about Jesus you posted are offensive to many Christians.

When you show someplace where I engaged in a contracxt with the WTO I will be happy to pay any ammount that can be shown due from me. You entered a contract with me and the proceeds from that contract were assigned to Free Republic. I even offered to provide the court case on point about what constitutes acceptance and agreement for a contract to be enforceable in a court. Of course that fee was payable in advance.

I have not engaged in personal abuse of you such as questioning your sanity or alleging clincal psychiatric conditions. That is personal abuse and I do wish you could abide by forum rules.

[harpseal]

YOU DEMANDED RESEARCH AFTER THE FEE WAS STATED> YOU INCURRED A DEBT WHICH AS THE HOLDER OF THAT DEBT I ASSIGNED IT TO FREE REPUBLIC.

pay what you owe free republic.

[jas3]

YOU DEMANDED RESEARCH AFTER THE FEE WAS STATED> YOU INCURRED A DEBT WHICH AS THE HOLDER OF THAT DEBT I ASSIGNED IT TO FREE REPUBLIC. pay what you owe free republic.

Sory Harpo...I never agreed to pay you a fee. And you can't assign imaginary debts. You can't even assign real debts without the consent of the assignee, which you don't have in this case.

Your delusions stil have the better of you, which I why I continue to suggest you seek professional help. I don't intend that as abuse, only as a recommendation that your mental health status is in dire need of review.

p.s. Pay what you owe the Easter Bunny!

[jas3]

I have engaged in no personal abuse and the anti-hristian comments about Jesus you posted are offensive to many Christians

I find your interpretation of the word of Christ to be offensive.

My comments are not at all "anti-hristian" but are in fact very pro-hristian, whatever that word means.

You entered a contract with me and the proceeds from that contract were assigned to Free Republic.

No, I didn't. No you didn't. If you actually believe both of those assertions, then you are in need of professional medical attention.

I have not engaged in personal abuse of you such as questioning your sanity or alleging clincal psychiatric conditions. That is personal abuse and I do wish you could abide by forum rules.

While it is true that you have not questioned my sanity, you have ***repeatedly*** engaged in personal abuse of me on this thread, which is why your accusations carry no weight and are exceptionally hypocritical. If you disagree, please note so here and I will list your personal abuse by post number. My research fee for this will be $10 per abuse item found. Signify your assent by posting to this thread again. I'll bill you retroactively and assign your debt to the Tooth Fairy.

I still contend that your posts display classic symptoms of clinical paranoia and would urge you to seek help.

[harpseal]

Anyone who would state that Jesus Christ would support an organization that supports a totatlitarian regime such as the People's Republic of China. The PRC engages in forced abortions. Your statements misrepresenting Christianity are offensive.

No, I didn't.

Regarding the contract you entered into . I offered to get the refernce to the 1993 misiters statement which is on the WTO web sitre. I offered to do this for a fee. You continually demanded the reference even going so far as to post a lie about your contacting the WTO librarian. This constitutes acceptance of my offer which means an agreement was reached. I then provided the Link in post #384. Your debt was clear at that point. I have since publicly posted sevveral times that debt should be paid to Free Republic. Your repudiation of that debt does nothing to alter it. You were given the alternative of forsaking personal abuse and apology to reduce that debt to a mageable level. Instead of accepting that generous offer from me you chose to continue to engaged it outlandish personal abuse.I offered the case in point on acceptance.

No you didn't.

Now if you think that I did not assign this debt to Free Republic then I suggest you re-read this thread as you have answered teh assignment of the debt to Free Republic in the past.

If you actually believe both of those assertions, then you are in need of professional medical attention.

This is personal abuse and your willingness to post such merely shows you to be unwilling to abide by the rules of Free Republic.

While it is true that you have not questioned my sanity, you have ***repeatedly*** engaged in personal abuse of me on this thread,

I will admit to some past abuse of you on this thread in respoinse to your anti-American pro-Marxist pro-WTO statements. (I know I was redundant but hey that is your problem). I engaged in no personal comments against you until you stated how much you disliked America and wished to leave.

I further note even when you alleged some right you have that is clearly against the US Constitution I did not question your sanity although such might be justified.

Deal with teh issues and teh facts you neo-liberal. clearly you meet the definition posted above

[jas3]

This constitutes acceptance of my offer which means an agreement was reached.

This constitutes acceptance only in the bizzaro world of your mind. It certainly doesn't constitute acceptance anywhere else, Harpo.

Your repudiation of that debt....

It is not possible to repudiate a debt which does not exist. Have you repudiated your debt to the Easter Bunny yet?

Instead of accepting that generous offer....

HA ha ha ha....generous offer my foot.

These posts would be amusing if I didn't suspect that you are actually being serious, which is why I have repeatedly urged you to seek psychiatric care.

I will admit to some past abuse of you on this thread in respoinse to your anti-American pro-Marxist pro-WTO statements. (I know I was redundant but hey that is your problem). I engaged in no personal comments against you until you stated how much you disliked America and wished to leave.

Ohh...so you broke the abuse rules under the exception for people that you decide you want to abuse? I see. I didn't realize that you were able to grant yourself exceptions from the rules.

How incredibly hypocritcal of you, Harpo.

If you actually believe that I owe you a debt, that people who disagree with you are all anti-American and hate America, that Marxism = Free Trade (all of which you've posted here)then I will again urge you to seek treatment. Between your xenophobia, disire to wall off America from the rest of the world, and disorganzied ramblings, you are exhibiting classic symptoms of paranoia. It can't hurt to go in for a simple evaluation. Your union health plan probably covers it anyhow.

[jas3]

Harpseal #625: "I have engaged in no personal abuse..."

Harpseal #629: "I will admit to some past abuse of you on this thread..."

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[harpseal]

I hearby ap0ologise for any insults and personal abi=use I posted about you. I specifically do not apologise for calling you anti-American, pro-Chinese, a liar, one who has renegged on an honorable debt owed to Free Republic, anti-Christian, or a Marxist. Those you terms you deserved. But I apologise for refernces to yur lack of intelligence at times and any other personal ad hominem attack. i should not have engaed in any personal abuse and when I reviewed the tread I saw taht at times I was insulting towards you not merely descriptive of your posts.

[jas3]

Apology accepted.

[harpseal]

Your turn to render first your apology to all Christians for your allegations that Jesus Christ would support the WTO, then to either pay what you owe to Free Republic under the terms given you or and I am once more being generous here apologizing for all your personal abuse and making a donation you can afford in my name.

[jas3]

I may be wrong about our Saviour supporting the WTO, but that doesn't necessitate an apology to my fellow Christians.

Christ was against currency trading and would likely still frown upon borrowing and lending of all kind, so it is possible he would have not have supported the WTO. But I doubt it. He was a sharp dude.

He would have recognized that barriers to trade destroy jobs and lowers standards of living by pricing lesser skilled people out of the market. And he definitely would have represented lesser skilled folks. He was a very compassionate man.

The "terms given me" (use of passive voice is to be avoided, Harpseal) would be laughably silly, if I didn't believe that you are actually serious. That and your self-described generosity are indicative of an unbalanced mental state.

I would characterize your continued beliefs in the imaginary as clinically delusional, which is why I have repeatedly suggested that you talk to a professional therapist.

We can take this discussion offline if you would be more comfortable continuing it there.

There are excellent medications which will help you control your anger, your fears of foreigners, your unwarranted sense of victimhood, and will help you organize your verbal and written thoughts more clearly.

It is quite likely that your union health plan would fully cover the cost of such prescriptions.

Mental disease is nothing to be ashamed of. It's not morally different than being diagnosed with a skin cancer. But you have to first recognzize that you have a problem before you can be treated.