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Arnold's Reagan-esque Plea
SFGate.com ^ | 9/13/03 | Zachary Coile and John Wildermuth - SF Chronicle

Posted on 09/13/2003 11:34:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:43:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Invoking the words of Ronald Reagan -- another actor-turned politician -- Arnold Schwarzenegger told state Republican leaders and activists Saturday he is the only GOP candidate who can unite the party and take back the governor's office from the Democrats.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; calgov2002; convention; plea; reagan; reaganesque; recall
"communism is evil and free enterprise is good,"

"I'm conservative because Milton Friedman is right and Karl Marx is wrong."


Well, DUhhhh!!!!

1 posted on 09/13/2003 11:34:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002
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2 posted on 09/13/2003 11:35:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. "Logic ", of late, flies in the face of conventions AND principles in California.)
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To: NormsRevenge
>>> the campaign's hardball tactics <<<
Huh?
What hardball tactics?
3 posted on 09/13/2003 11:45:30 PM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady; DoughtyOne; Luis Gonzalez; Tamsey; Poohbah; Chancellor Palpatine
About 200 people showed up at the bayside park and most of them were waving "McClintock for Governor" signs.


speaks volumes.
4 posted on 09/13/2003 11:53:15 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert the rino... following in the footsteps of other great rinos. reagan, bush, arnold, gingrich)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Elect Arnold.... And the yolk's on you!
5 posted on 09/13/2003 11:55:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. "Logic ", of late, flies in the face of conventions AND principles in California.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
You think they were planted there?
6 posted on 09/14/2003 12:01:44 AM PDT by b9
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Bump
7 posted on 09/14/2003 12:03:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. <<<<<<< Elect Arnold And The Yolk's on You! >>>>>>>)
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To: doodlelady
The Rev. Lou Sheldon, who is leading the effort, said his great fear is that Schwarzenegger will take over the state Republican Party -- and marginalize religious conservatives.


Don't worr rev lou... they are doing a fine job of marginalizing themselves... Arnold won't have to do a thing.

8 posted on 09/14/2003 12:08:37 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert the rino... following in the footsteps of other great rinos. reagan, bush, arnold, gingrich)
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To: doodlelady
It was a Recall Davi$ Rally ,, there was a announcement thread on FR about it.

Bill Simon endorsed Tom at the Rally, btw.

Republican California State Sen. Tom McClintock, right, now a candidate for governor, shakes hands with former Republican gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon Jr. at a rally thrown by the Recall Gray Davis Committee at a park in Long Beach, Calif., Saturday, Sept. 13, 2003. Simon withdrew as a candidate, leaving McClintock and Arnold Schwarzenegger as the leading Republicans in the race. (AP Photo/Reed Saxon)

9 posted on 09/14/2003 12:08:48 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. <<<<<<< Elect Arnold And The Yolk's on You! >>>>>>>)
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To: doodlelady
yeah
10 posted on 09/14/2003 12:11:14 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert the rino... following in the footsteps of other great rinos. reagan, bush, arnold, gingrich)
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To: NormsRevenge
In his speech, Schwarzenegger referred to himself as a conservative seven times and three times invoked the name of Reagan...

Arnold should be ashamed of himself. This comparison is a brutal outrage. Arnold is a liberal. Reagan was a conservative.

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"As Governor, Mr. Schwarzenegger would be a darker villain than any he has faced in his movies, sinking the Golden State into a moral vacuum."

"The common wisdom is that Schwarzenegger is a sure winner. A lot of Republicans think he is. But what a lot of those Republicans don’t seem to know, or care, for that matter, is that Arnold is not really a Republican, but a Democrat claiming to be a Republican. Should California Republicans get behind a pseudo-Republican merely to be able to claim that they’ve put a Republican candidate in the governor’s mansion in Sacramento? Are they that desperate?"

"I know it’s asking a lot to suggest that my fellow California Republicans wise up and get behind the most competent candidate in the race, a proven state-wide vote getter, Tom McClintock. He is the only candidate capable of cleaning up the mess in Sacramento and digging the state out of the black fiscal pit in which Davis and the Democrats have buried us."

Michael Reagan

11 posted on 09/14/2003 12:43:58 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
You are abusing your namesake. I think AS should step aside and let McClintock use the same magic that elected Governor Simon. However, on the off chance that he gets crushed, the “principled purists” may find themselves laughed at for the next decade. Simon was just a chuckle compared to this belly laugh.
12 posted on 09/14/2003 12:52:38 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: NormsRevenge
At the convention, one Schwarzenegger backer after another took the stage to not-so-subtly urge McClintock to get out.

Get out, Tom, before you cause more damage!

13 posted on 09/14/2003 12:57:50 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I'm voting for Arnold. Get over it already!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Okay, so he's to the right of the USSR. That's a start...
14 posted on 09/14/2003 4:32:30 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Israel is the canary in the coal mine of Islamofascism)
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To: NormsRevenge
Was it as eerie to you as it was to me, watching Arnold pump his fist towards the crowd, repeating 3 times "Let's unite for victory!"
15 posted on 09/14/2003 4:37:18 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Israel is the canary in the coal mine of Islamofascism)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't know whether Arnold won over conservatives. He says he is a conservative. Fine - the test will be what he does not what he says. Actions speak louder than words.
16 posted on 09/14/2003 7:06:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Reagan Man
Arnold had the audacity to use "A Time for Choosing" as a poor pun to support his own canidacy. Has he ever read the speech? Have his supporters?

A Time for Choosing

17 posted on 09/14/2003 7:10:51 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: goldstategop
I think you've nailed why Arnold has NOT won over conservatives - he hasn't argued for any conservative principle other than no new taxes. Wait, make that, not raising taxes as a first choice.

It isn't just 'social conservatives' (why is that considered a derogatory term on FR?) who worry - Arnold's lack of any specific ideas worries ANYONE who wants to know what a candidate believes.

Arnold could pick up a lot of support quickly if he would just give some indication he thought 'social conservatives' were something other than, "right wing crazies'. But some of us have a hard time getting behind a candidate who thinks we're insane...
18 posted on 09/14/2003 7:53:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: thoughtomator
Was it as eerie to you as it was to me, watching Arnold pump his fist towards the crowd, repeating 3 times "Let's unite for victory!"


The comparison to another politican and egomaniac who was also born in Austria and rose to power in the '30s and was also a powerful "communicator" and used propaganda machines to advance his cause and ensnare the populace with visions grandeur and uniting for a noble cause, I ain't going there. ;-).

You know how that script ended.

19 posted on 09/14/2003 8:15:30 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. <<<<<<< Elect Arnold And The Yolk's on You! >>>>>>>)
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To: thoughtomator
Was it as eerie to you as it was to me, watching Arnold pump his fist towards the crowd, repeating 3 times "Let's unite for victory!"

I was thinking the same thing. It was scary.

20 posted on 09/14/2003 8:41:43 AM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
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21 posted on 09/14/2003 8:49:04 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Texasforever
You are abusing your namesake.

He's quoting Ronald Reagan's son.

I think AS should step aside and let McClintock use the same magic that elected Governor Simon.

Had our pathetic state 'Republican' party not gotten in a snit when the great unwashed rejected their annointed choice, RINO Riordon, they would have been willing to pump a bit of cash into the campaigns of both Simon and McClintock in 2002. Had that happened, Governor Simon and his Controller Tom McClintock would have had a turn-around started two years ago.

22 posted on 09/14/2003 8:51:19 AM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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To: Bob
Had that happened, Governor Simon and his Controller Tom McClintock would have had a turn-around started two years ago.

OK, I'll admit it -- I exaggerated. Simon ran a terrible campaign. He may not have won even with the support of the state party. The lack of party support certainly didn't help though.

23 posted on 09/14/2003 8:55:32 AM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Rev. Lou Sheldon, who is leading the effort, said his great fear is that Schwarzenegger
will take over the state Republican Party -- and marginalize
religious conservatives.


Too bad the Rev. won't grasp the term "the law of unintended consequences" before he
gets his invitation to Governor Bustamante's Inaugural Ball.

I'll take it as a testament to the Rev.'s substantial faith to think religious conservatives
haven't yet been marginalized in a state where the Democrats (mostly
secular liberal-humanists) are holding all major state offices and have
the run of the state senate and assembly.
And the two U.S. Senate positions.
24 posted on 09/14/2003 9:01:16 AM PDT by VOA
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