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To: WaterDragon
Really I just see both sides engaging in this ancestor worship, which I find pointless. You are right. It's as if somehow genius will be channeled down through the genes. Not true. All of my family tree are poor people. Poor Italians, poor Spanish sugar cane cutters, etc. People are trying to derive some weird sense of self esteem from the ether instead of relying on God and their immediate family.
31 posted on 09/14/2003 3:45:45 PM PDT by cyborg (and you thought I was joking about the tinfoil hat)
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To: cyborg
People are trying to derive some weird sense of self esteem from the ether instead of relying on God and their immediate family. Well said!
32 posted on 09/14/2003 3:46:50 PM PDT by WaterDragon (America the beautiful, I love this nation of (legal) immigrants.)
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To: cyborg
I think "ancestor inspiration" would be a better view.

You are correct. It is agreed that Hemmings was a 50/50 mulatto at least is it not and that she was sired by someone connected to Jefferson and that she had liasions within the Jefferson family.

I'm not sure how much can be proved beyond that other than as you point out that she was loyal to him without question.

Is there any written correspondence detailing whether or not she was a concubine to him from him, his daughter or anyone else with close knowledge.

The probability of a liasion with a fairly cultured well traveled mulatto of her standing with an old widower planter-statesman is hardly inconcievable.

It's ironic that in American history it remains speculative whereas in non-English speaking slave owning societies, it would have been assumed as a given.
41 posted on 09/14/2003 3:57:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (Roland will be missed by me.)
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To: cyborg
Really I just see both sides engaging in this ancestor worship, which I find pointless.

It's not ancestor worship. It's more like stamp collecting, at least for me.

I've got a little bit of the whole world in my familly tree, from kings of England and Mayflower Pilgrims on the one hand, to abolitionist radicals and Indian chiefs and Mormon polygamists and black slaves on the other-- even one Gypsy.

The story of America is woven into every cell in my body. Probably it lives in yours too. Try to learn more about it someday, and I am sure you will find it interesting.

-ccm

42 posted on 09/14/2003 4:02:46 PM PDT by ccmay
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