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[Biased title alert] Clinton, in rare move, denounces Bush record
International Herald Tribune (owned by NY Slimes) ^

Posted on 09/14/2003 9:34:04 PM PDT by sdk7x7

Former President Bill Clinton, seizing the Democratic stage, offered one of his strongest denunciations of President George W. Bush since leaving office as he tried to rally Democrats here around candidates who have yet to stir the excitement he did in 1992. . Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night, Clinton invoked the circumstances of the 2000 presidential election as he argued that the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office. . "That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance." . The former president said that Bush had wasted an opportunity to unite the country and enhance its international standing in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks. . "Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right." . The setting for Clinton's rare public speech on the American political scene was the annual steak fry held by this state's senior senator, Tom Harkin. It was attended by seven of the nine Democratic presidential candidates. . Six of them also spoke to the crowd on Saturday night, but Clinton's speech, even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates. . Indeed, two of the best-known Democrats, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina and Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, left the stage about 15 minutes before Clinton arrived, citing scheduling conflicts. . Clinton seemed aware of the danger that his presence might overshadow the 2004 contenders, or highlight their shortcomings, and he went to great lengths to dispute the notion that the Democrats were putting up a weak field this year. . He went out of his way to praise eight of the nine candidates. . The Reverend Al Sharpton of New York, who was not here, was the only one not to receive any mention from Clinton. . "I like this field - I get tired of people saying the field can't beat the incumbent president," said Clinton, adding: "When somebody tells you the people who are running for president aren't big, they just mean they aren't famous yet." . Clinton used his own economic situation to mock Bush's tax cut. . Clinton said he might, as a very wealthy former president living in Chappaqua, New York, be paying more taxes than just about anyone else in America. "I get my tax cut, and they are going to take 300,000 poor children and kick them out of after-school programs," he said. . The candidates and the host, Harkin, fell over one another to praise Clinton and dispel any idea that Clinton, who was impeached but not removed from office, was not welcome in Democratic circles. . Harkin even praised Clinton for bringing rain to this drought-afflicted region, though the rain stopped the moment Clinton took the stage. And the audience was dotted with signs reading, "Welcome back, Bill," and "We Miss You." . Edwards, who has patterned his campaign after Clinton's 1992 race, even appropriating some of Clinton's language, said, "I am tired of Democrats walking away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who led the greatest period of economic growth in our country's history." . And Kerry, speaking before Clinton, took notice of the former president's propensity for lengthy speeches at public gatherings, a propensity that Kerry shares. "I saw in the program that Bill Clinton is going to speak for about 20 minutes," he said. "And in that 20 minutes, if that's what you believe it is, he's going to deliver more common sense and more sense of the country than George Bush has in two and a half years." . Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless. . Wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, and appearing thinner then he had at any point in the White House, Clinton took the stage to the sound of his 1992 campaign theme song, "Don't Stop (Thinking about Tomorrow)" by Fleetwood Mac. And when he was done, Clinton did as Clinton always does at these kinds of events: He stayed behind to shake every hand he could find, lingering for nearly an hour as the Iowa sky turned dark behind him. . The New York Times INDIANOLA, Iowa: >en<>res< Former Presi$-$ Former President Bill Clinton, seizing the Democratic stage, offered one of his strongest denunciations of President George W. Bush since leaving office as he tried to rally Democrats here around candidates who have yet to stir the excitement he did in 1992. . Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night, Clinton invoked the circumstances of the 2000 presidential election as he argued that the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office. . "That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance." . The former president said that Bush had wasted an opportunity to unite the country and enhance its international standing in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks. . "Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right." . The setting for Clinton's rare public speech on the American political scene was the annual steak fry held by this state's senior senator, Tom Harkin. It was attended by seven of the nine Democratic presidential candidates. . Six of them also spoke to the crowd on Saturday night, but Clinton's speech, even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates. . Indeed, two of the best-known Democrats, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina and Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, left the stage about 15 minutes before Clinton arrived, citing scheduling conflicts. . Clinton seemed aware of the danger that his presence might overshadow the 2004 contenders, or highlight their shortcomings, and he went to great lengths to dispute the notion that the Democrats were putting up a weak field this year. . He went out of his way to praise eight of the nine candidates. . The Reverend Al Sharpton of New York, who was not here, was the only one not to receive any mention from Clinton. . "I like this field - I get tired of people saying the field can't beat the incumbent president," said Clinton, adding: "When somebody tells you the people who are running for president aren't big, they just mean they aren't famous yet." . Clinton used his own economic situation to mock Bush's tax cut. . Clinton said he might, as a very wealthy former president living in Chappaqua, New York, be paying more taxes than just about anyone else in America. "I get my tax cut, and they are going to take 300,000 poor children and kick them out of after-school programs," he said. . The candidates and the host, Harkin, fell over one another to praise Clinton and dispel any idea that Clinton, who was impeached but not removed from office, was not welcome in Democratic circles. . Harkin even praised Clinton for bringing rain to this drought-afflicted region, though the rain stopped the moment Clinton took the stage. And the audience was dotted with signs reading, "Welcome back, Bill," and "We Miss You." . Edwards, who has patterned his campaign after Clinton's 1992 race, even appropriating some of Clinton's language, said, "I am tired of Democrats walking away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who led the greatest period of economic growth in our country's history." . And Kerry, speaking before Clinton, took notice of the former president's propensity for lengthy speeches at public gatherings, a propensity that Kerry shares. "I saw in the program that Bill Clinton is going to speak for about 20 minutes," he said. "And in that 20 minutes, if that's what you believe it is, he's going to deliver more common sense and more sense of the country than George Bush has in two and a half years." . Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless. . Wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, and appearing thinner then he had at any point in the White House, Clinton took the stage to the sound of his 1992 campaign theme song, "Don't Stop (Thinking about Tomorrow)" by Fleetwood Mac. And when he was done, Clinton did as Clinton always does at these kinds of events: He stayed behind to shake every hand he could find, lingering for nearly an hour as the Iowa sky turned dark behind him. . The New York Times INDIANOLA, Iowa: >en<>res< Former Presi$-$ Former President Bill Clinton, seizing the Democratic stage, offered one of his strongest denunciations of President George W. Bush since leaving office as he tried to rally Democrats here around candidates who have yet to stir the excitement he did in 1992. . Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night, Clinton invoked the circumstances of the 2000 presidential election as he argued that the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office. . "That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance." . The former president said that Bush had wasted an opportunity to unite the country and enhance its international standing in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks. . "Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right." . The setting for Clinton's rare public speech on the American political scene was the annual steak fry held by this state's senior senator, Tom Harkin. It was attended by seven of the nine Democratic presidential candidates. . Six of them also spoke to the crowd on Saturday night, but Clinton's speech, even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates. . Indeed, two of the best-known Democrats, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina and Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, left the stage about 15 minutes before Clinton arrived, citing scheduling conflicts. . Clinton seemed aware of the danger that his presence might overshadow the 2004 contenders, or highlight their shortcomings, and he went to great lengths to dispute the notion that the Democrats were putting up a weak field this year. . He went out of his way to praise eight of the nine candidates. . The Reverend Al Sharpton of New York, who was not here, was the only one not to receive any mention from Clinton. . "I like this field - I get tired of people saying the field can't beat the incumbent president," said Clinton, adding: "When somebody tells you the people who are running for president aren't big, they just mean they aren't famous yet." . Clinton used his own economic situation to mock Bush's tax cut. . Clinton said he might, as a very wealthy former president living in Chappaqua, New York, be paying more taxes than just about anyone else in America. "I get my tax cut, and they are going to take 300,000 poor children and kick them out of after-school programs," he said. . The candidates and the host, Harkin, fell over one another to praise Clinton and dispel any idea that Clinton, who was impeached but not removed from office, was not welcome in Democratic circles. . Harkin even praised Clinton for bringing rain to this drought-afflicted region, though the rain stopped the moment Clinton took the stage. And the audience was dotted with signs reading, "Welcome back, Bill," and "We Miss You." . Edwards, who has patterned his campaign after Clinton's 1992 race, even appropriating some of Clinton's language, said, "I am tired of Democrats walking away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who led the greatest period of economic growth in our country's history." . And Kerry, speaking before Clinton, took notice of the former president's propensity for lengthy speeches at public gatherings, a propensity that Kerry shares. "I saw in the program that Bill Clinton is going to speak for about 20 minutes," he said. "And in that 20 minutes, if that's what you believe it is, he's going to deliver more common sense and more sense of the country than George Bush has in two and a half years." . Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless. . Wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, and appearing thinner then he had at any point in the White House, Clinton took the stage to the sound of his 1992 campaign theme song, "Don't Stop (Thinking about Tomorrow)" by Fleetwood Mac. And when he was done, Clinton did as Clinton always does at these kinds of events: He stayed behind to shake every hand he could find, lingering for nearly an hour as the Iowa sky turned dark behind him. . The New York Times


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; adulterer; antibush; billclinton; bushbashing; clymer; criesoncue; impeachedpresident; iowa; liesoncamera; liesunderoath; lyingliars; mediabias; perjuror; presidentbush; x42
IN RARE MOVE?! He's been criticizing Bush since Day 1! Afghanistan... Iraq... Economy... geez.

-sdk

1 posted on 09/14/2003 9:34:04 PM PDT by sdk7x7
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To: sdk7x7
Blame the layout of the IHT for this poor cut/paste job. Click the link above for a bit more readable copy, if you wish. I think the title tells it all though.
2 posted on 09/14/2003 9:35:04 PM PDT by sdk7x7 ("This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end.")
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To: sdk7x7
Auuugh! my eyes! FORMATTING!
3 posted on 09/14/2003 9:35:28 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: sdk7x7
Ze IHT copy editor, 'e make ze joke, yes?
4 posted on 09/14/2003 9:36:15 PM PDT by RichInOC (Is it October 7 yet?)
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To: sdk7x7
Former President Bill Clinton, seizing the Democratic stage, offered one of his strongest denunciations of President George W. Bush since leaving office as he tried to rally Democrats here around candidates who have yet to stir the excitement he did in 1992.
.
Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night, Clinton invoked the circumstances of the 2000 presidential election as he argued that the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office.
.
"That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance."
.
The former president said that Bush had wasted an opportunity to unite the country and enhance its international standing in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks.
.
"Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right."
.
The setting for Clinton's rare public speech on the American political scene was the annual steak fry held by this state's senior senator, Tom Harkin. It was attended by seven of the nine Democratic presidential candidates.
.
Six of them also spoke to the crowd on Saturday night, but Clinton's speech, even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates.
.
Indeed, two of the best-known Democrats, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina and Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, left the stage about 15 minutes before Clinton arrived, citing scheduling conflicts.
.
Clinton seemed aware of the danger that his presence might overshadow the 2004 contenders, or highlight their shortcomings, and he went to great lengths to dispute the notion that the Democrats were putting up a weak field this year.
.
He went out of his way to praise eight of the nine candidates.
.
The Reverend Al Sharpton of New York, who was not here, was the only one not to receive any mention from Clinton.
.
"I like this field - I get tired of people saying the field can't beat the incumbent president," said Clinton, adding: "When somebody tells you the people who are running for president aren't big, they just mean they aren't famous yet."
.
Clinton used his own economic situation to mock Bush's tax cut.
.
Clinton said he might, as a very wealthy former president living in Chappaqua, New York, be paying more taxes than just about anyone else in America. "I get my tax cut, and they are going to take 300,000 poor children and kick them out of after-school programs," he said.
.
The candidates and the host, Harkin, fell over one another to praise Clinton and dispel any idea that Clinton, who was impeached but not removed from office, was not welcome in Democratic circles.
.
Harkin even praised Clinton for bringing rain to this drought-afflicted region, though the rain stopped the moment Clinton took the stage. And the audience was dotted with signs reading, "Welcome back, Bill," and "We Miss You."
.
Edwards, who has patterned his campaign after Clinton's 1992 race, even appropriating some of Clinton's language, said, "I am tired of Democrats walking away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who led the greatest period of economic growth in our country's history."
.
And Kerry, speaking before Clinton, took notice of the former president's propensity for lengthy speeches at public gatherings, a propensity that Kerry shares. "I saw in the program that Bill Clinton is going to speak for about 20 minutes," he said. "And in that 20 minutes, if that's what you believe it is, he's going to deliver more common sense and more sense of the country than George Bush has in two and a half years."
.
Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless.
.
Wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, and appearing thinner then he had at any point in the White House, Clinton took the stage to the sound of his 1992 campaign theme song, "Don't Stop (Thinking about Tomorrow)" by Fleetwood Mac. And when he was done, Clinton did as Clinton always does at these kinds of events: He stayed behind to shake every hand he could find, lingering for nearly an hour as the Iowa sky turned dark behind him.
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The New York Times

5 posted on 09/14/2003 9:37:07 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: sdk7x7
Wow, he did all that in one paragraph...
6 posted on 09/14/2003 9:37:17 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: sdk7x7
"...the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office."

The "foreign policy gains" he made? What, like giving the North Koreans several billion dollars and allowing them to restart their nuclear weapons program? Like not accepting Osama bin Laden when Somalia offered him to us? Like not getting us out of Bosnia after the conflict was over. Etc, etc, etc....

7 posted on 09/14/2003 9:38:04 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: sdk7x7
In a case like the IHT's always choose to print the article from the icon at the bottom. Up will come a clean version formatted for printing. You can select directly from that text only version or "view source" and choose a version already marked up in html. Either way, if you think it might be a problem always choose the "print story" version. I've noticed Drudge is now sometimes linking to the "printer" version as well.
8 posted on 09/14/2003 9:42:32 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Timesink
Whoa...text hypnosis...
9 posted on 09/14/2003 9:43:11 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: hole_n_one
It's a New York Times article so you can't quote it in its entirety. You have to excerpt it and link to the full version.
10 posted on 09/14/2003 9:43:42 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
I think Clinton meant all the good will we got by giving the Chinese our nuclear weapon, missile and satellite secrets. The Bush Administration doesn't seem as cozy with China for some odd reason.

But as for Clinton, it just goes to show what a few million bucks in poorly laundered campaign money can buy, if you approach the right candidate.

11 posted on 09/14/2003 9:45:15 PM PDT by Imal (The World According to Imal: http://imal.blogspot.com)
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To: FreedomCalls
As far as I know, there are no posting restrictions regarding articles from the NY Times.

Currently, only the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times have an excerpt only requirement @ FR.

12 posted on 09/14/2003 9:47:28 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: sdk7x7
Blame the layout of the IHT for this poor cut/paste job.

Well...

1) If it's an NYT article in the IHT, that means it was in the Times as well.

2)There's a "print" button on each IHT page. You can either cut-and-paste from that, or get the source of the "print" page and cut/paste that.

Not nagging, just suggesting for next time...

13 posted on 09/14/2003 9:47:50 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: sdk7x7
MY EYES!
14 posted on 09/14/2003 9:47:59 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: sdk7x7
I sure wish Bush would respond by mentioning things like the OKC/Iraq connection/coverup and the selling of American nuclear secrets to China, but that'll happen when pigs fly.
15 posted on 09/14/2003 9:48:53 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: FreedomCalls; hole_n_one
There's no problem with reproducing NYT articles on FR.

(And, as I like to point out, FR seems to be the only site on the net where the LAT and WP have actually gone out of their way to stop reposting of their stories. There are a number of leftie sites that repost WAP and LP articles in their entirety every single day, and the LAT and WP never bats an eyelid. I thought selective prosecution of so-called "copyright violations" was grounds for losing said copyright. I don't know why we've never pursued that angle.)

16 posted on 09/14/2003 9:53:20 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: FreedomCalls
From FR's homepage...

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17 posted on 09/14/2003 9:55:26 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: sdk7x7
From the Hurricane Isabel thread ....

Perhaps the most stupid woman on the planet called Drudge tonight. She thinks the storm is a conspiracy by Bush to help the economy that he can't get started. She says that it won't hit, but people are spending all kinds of money getting supplies.

907 posted on 09/15/2003 12:03 AM EDT by doug from upland (Why did DemocRATS allow a perjuring rapist to remain in the Oval Office?)

I didn't read all that garbage you posted (and it wasn't because of the formatting but because it's such hogwash) ..... did x42 also mention Isabel?

I wonder what pile of sand this woman had her head in when Floyd was going up the East coast while x42 was president and he was declaring disaster areas where the storm hadn't even made landfall yet.

18 posted on 09/14/2003 9:57:13 PM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: sdk7x7
Hey Bill .. Why ya losing so much weight??? .. Could it be depression ?????

Oh and Bill .. YOU ARE A LOSER!!

19 posted on 09/14/2003 9:58:43 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: sdk7x7
Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night

In other words (they giddily gasp), HE'S SO SMART!!!

20 posted on 09/14/2003 9:58:58 PM PDT by montag813
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To: hole_n_one
even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates.

In other words..."these guys suck! Don't y'all want Hillary and my sycophant psycho Wes Clark instead"?

21 posted on 09/14/2003 10:01:18 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Mr. Mojo
I sure wish Bush would respond by mentioning things like the OKC/Iraq connection/coverup and the selling of American nuclear secrets to China, but that'll happen when pigs fly.

Kinda hard since he's covering it up too.

22 posted on 09/14/2003 10:02:08 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813
Without "notes"....yeah, sure....it's the same old tune and notes the Dems play all the time.....he just has memorized them better than anyone else, and perfected his "act." I wish this miserable POS would go away, and take his wifey with him. They are a big fat wart on America.
23 posted on 09/14/2003 10:02:19 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Whiners & PC'ers.......members of the new OFFENDED Political Party)
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To: sdk7x7
Why is it I don't remember any former president blasting his predecessor the way this man has been doing (not to mention getting Jimmah Cahtah to join in now)?

It's as if all the rules have been suspended for BJ. (I guess I should have expected that though, judging by his past behavior.)

Truly sickening.
24 posted on 09/14/2003 10:02:37 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: kayak
She thinks the storm is a conspiracy by Bush to help the economy that he can't get started.

Are you serious .. she said that???

This stuff has got to stop .. unbelievable

25 posted on 09/14/2003 10:03:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: montag813
And he's covering up Clinton's treason because...?
26 posted on 09/14/2003 10:03:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mo1
Well, doug from upland is usually pretty reliable and he's the one who quoted her.

Scary, huh?

27 posted on 09/14/2003 10:06:16 PM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: sdk7x7
..... the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office.

Ummmm......Does he mean The Clinton Bubble (that burst in March 2000) and firing 2 million dollar cruise missiles in order to hit ten dollar tents after al Qaeda attacked the USS Cole?

28 posted on 09/14/2003 10:07:04 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: sdk7x7
Former President Bill Clinton, seizing the Democratic stage, offered one of his strongest denunciations of President George W. Bush since leaving office as he tried to rally Democrats here around candidates who have yet to stir the excitement he did in 1992.
.
Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night, Clinton invoked the circumstances of the 2000 presidential election as he argued that the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office.
.
"That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance."
.
The former president said that Bush had wasted an opportunity to unite the country and enhance its international standing in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks.
.
"Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right."
.
The setting for Clinton's rare public speech on the American political scene was the annual steak fry held by this state's senior senator, Tom Harkin. It was attended by seven of the nine Democratic presidential candidates.
.
Six of them also spoke to the crowd on Saturday night, but Clinton's speech, even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates.
.
Indeed, two of the best-known Democrats, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina and Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, left the stage about 15 minutes before Clinton arrived, citing scheduling conflicts.
.
Clinton seemed aware of the danger that his presence might overshadow the 2004 contenders, or highlight their shortcomings, and he went to great lengths to dispute the notion that the Democrats were putting up a weak field this year.
.
He went out of his way to praise eight of the nine candidates.
.
The Reverend Al Sharpton of New York, who was not here, was the only one not to receive any mention from Clinton.
.
"I like this field - I get tired of people saying the field can't beat the incumbent president," said Clinton, adding: "When somebody tells you the people who are running for president aren't big, they just mean they aren't famous yet."
.
Clinton used his own economic situation to mock Bush's tax cut.
.
Clinton said he might, as a very wealthy former president living in Chappaqua, New York, be paying more taxes than just about anyone else in America. "I get my tax cut, and they are going to take 300,000 poor children and kick them out of after-school programs," he said.
.
The candidates and the host, Harkin, fell over one another to praise Clinton and dispel any idea that Clinton, who was impeached but not removed from office, was not welcome in Democratic circles.
.
Harkin even praised Clinton for bringing rain to this drought-afflicted region, though the rain stopped the moment Clinton took the stage. And the audience was dotted with signs reading, "Welcome back, Bill," and "We Miss You."
.
Edwards, who has patterned his campaign after Clinton's 1992 race, even appropriating some of Clinton's language, said, "I am tired of Democrats walking away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who led the greatest period of economic growth in our country's history."
.
And Kerry, speaking before Clinton, took notice of the former president's propensity for lengthy speeches at public gatherings, a propensity that Kerry shares. "I saw in the program that Bill Clinton is going to speak for about 20 minutes," he said. "And in that 20 minutes, if that's what you believe it is, he's going to deliver more common sense and more sense of the country than George Bush has in two and a half years."
.
Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless.
.
Wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, and appearing thinner then he had at any point in the White House, Clinton took the stage to the sound of his 1992 campaign theme song, "Don't Stop (Thinking about Tomorrow)" by Fleetwood Mac. And when he was done, Clinton did as Clinton always does at these kinds of events: He stayed behind to shake every hand he could find, lingering for nearly an hour as the Iowa sky turned dark behind him.
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The New York Times

29 posted on 09/14/2003 10:07:14 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: hole_n_one
Oh sorry. I thought the NYT was included with the LAT and WP settlement. The IHT used to be a subsidiary of the WP along with the NYT, but I think the NYT bought out the WP's share of the IHT. So, I guess it's legal. Carry on.
30 posted on 09/14/2003 10:09:13 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: sdk7x7
What ever happened to the tradition where former presidents never criticized the president?
31 posted on 09/14/2003 10:19:51 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: nutmeg
read later bump
32 posted on 09/14/2003 10:21:26 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: sdk7x7
Would somebody please wipe the drool off of Adam Nagourney's face?

Lord, that is one embarrassing job of "professional" journalism...

33 posted on 09/14/2003 10:27:30 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: sdk7x7
I pray that my religion is right....and there is a day of reconing! How this man can go on and on without ever having to account to anyone for his dispicable actions is far beyond my comprehension.
34 posted on 09/14/2003 10:53:49 PM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: sdk7x7

Rare Mover


35 posted on 09/14/2003 11:03:34 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: hole_n_one
"That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance."

Candidate George W. Bush warned voters of the coming recession. The Clinonistas said that Gov. Bush shouldn't say such things because he was "jinxing" the economy. The Clinton economy was a sham and it had been debt ridden for years (the I.O.U.s came due).

"Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right."

Following the lead of the rest of the world is not a foreign policy. We are a soverign nation and our President is accountable to our citizens. In WWII, Europe went fascist (Spain, Italy, Germany) and some countries were conquored while others remained "neutral" in the midst of pure evil. We aren't lemmings and shouldn't try to win any popularity contests by doing what all the other kids are doing.

Six of them also spoke to the crowd on Saturday night, but Clinton's speech, even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates.

A bad speech from a former president can still get ink he has the "right" tone when it comes to conservatives.

He went out of his way to praise eight of the nine candidates. The Reverend Al Sharpton of New York, who was not here, was the only one not to receive any mention from Clinton.

Uh, there are 10 candidates for the Democrat Presidential nomination. Lyndon LaRouche is in the running even if they don't like to acknowledge him.

Edwards, who has patterned his campaign after Clinton's 1992 race, even appropriating some of Clinton's language, said, "I am tired of Democrats walking away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who led the greatest period of economic growth in our country's history."

And I'm sick and tired of seeing the Democrats appropriate credit for the greatest period of economic growth away from the policies of Reagan and Bush (the US economy was already in recovery before Bill Clinton took office despite their claims of "worst economy in 50 years"). What was the policy that Bill Clinton set in motion that caused that economy? Retroactively raising taxes?

(Kerry said...)"And in that 20 minutes, if that's what you believe it is, he's going to deliver more common sense and more sense of the country than George Bush has in two and a half years." Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless.

Doesn't sound like the speech was as riviting as some would like to make it out to be.

36 posted on 09/15/2003 12:40:11 AM PDT by weegee
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To: All

-The Clinton Files--

Liars-- and Sleaze, Incorporated... ( my files on the clintons and friends )

-Some old strange clinton "stuff"--

-The Atomic Genie- what we know about North Korea's Nuclear program--


Madison Society - Slick Willy
... THE CLINTON TIME LINE. The Etherzone provides, in one location, all the events
of the Clinton Ongoing Corruption from 1977 through 2000. Read more. ...

CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:
... And that gets to my second chart, Mr. Speaker, which is the time line.....Up until
1993, Mr. Speaker, under Democrats and Republican Presidents alike, there ...

The Cost of Life (Clinton/Gore Sellout of Security for Campaign Contributions) **FR EXCLUSIVE** #2

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON

CIA Officials Reveal What Went Wrong – Clinton to Blame

Is Bill Clinton Responsible for September 11?

Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE

-Murder, Inc.--

-The number of "suicides" for people linked to this and other Clinton-related cases--

-ATTENTION BLOODHOUNDS--

-Women in the Clinton Era: Abuse,Intimidation and Smears--

-SEND JUANITA BROADDRICK VIDEO TO THOSE WHO WANT CLINTON TO SPEAK--

Nothing phony about response to Hillary at fete

Hillary's delegates spit on and taunt Police Honor Guard at her Convention

-Sen. Hillary Clinton--NewsMax.com Hot Topics--

Boo Hillary! The Video***

-All Hillary, all the time...--

1. The Clinton's are pro-abortion. Our children deserve better.
2. The Clinton's are against school vouchers. Our children deserve better.
3. The Clinton's are against our ballistic missile defense system. Our children deserve to be protected from rogue North Korean nuclear missiles.
4. The Clinton's want Americans to be subjected to the International Criminal Court, which has no Bill of Rights, no right to see your accuser, no jury, and no appeal. Our citizens deserve better.
5. The Clinton's want the Kyoto Treaty on Global Warming to become law. That treaty will eventually lead to the prohibition of gasoline-powered automobiles. We deserve better than to return to the pre-industrial age.

37 posted on 09/15/2003 1:08:00 AM PDT by backhoe (A nuke for every Kook ( NK, Pak, India, Iran... )- what a Clinton "legacy...")
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To: weegee
What was the policy that Bill Clinton set in motion that caused that economy? Retroactively raising taxes?

This is the thing that drives me crazy the most. All the time, we hear about the economy while Clinton was in office, but we never hear about what Clinton supposedly DID in order to create the situation.

To me, a layman, it is crystal clear what Clinton did -- he got elected during the early days of the Internet IPO/high-tech revolution, and rode the market wave caused by belief in the false dream of thousands upon thousands of overnight millionaires.

His term came up just as the country was waking up from that dream. What could his successor possibly have done to bring the days of TheGlobe.com IPOs back?

38 posted on 09/15/2003 1:48:03 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: L.N. Smithee
I watched the 1st half on c span ... looked like someone selling junk on a road side stop --- garage sale garbage !

Clinton quoting Truman ... disgusting --- trailer trash !


39 posted on 09/15/2003 1:53:58 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: f.Christian
Hillary Clinton and the Third Way By David Horowitz [Excerpt from Hillary Clinton and the Third Way] Is there a practical difference in the modus operandi of Clinton narcissism and Clinton messianism? I think there is, and it is the difference between "triangulation"-a cynical compromise to hang onto power until the next election cycle, and "The Third Way"-a cynical deception to ensure the continuance of Us, until we acquire enough power to transform everyone else. It is the difference between the politics of getting what you can, and the politics of changing the world.

A capsule illustration of these different political ambitions can be found in the book Primary Colors , which describes, in thinly veiled fiction, Bill Clinton's road to the presidency. Primary Colors is an admiring portrait not only of the candidate, but of the dedicated missionaries-the true believing staffers and the long-suffering wife-who serve Clinton's political agendas, but at the price of enabling the demons of self.

These staffers-political functionaries like Harold Ickes and George Stephanopoulos-serve as the flak-catchers and "bimbo eruption"-controllers who clean up his personal messes and shape his image for gullible publics. But they are also the idealists who design his message. And in the end, they enable him to politically succeed.

It is Primary Colors' insight into the minds of these missionaries that is revealing. They see Clinton clearly as a flawed and often repellent human being. They see him as a lecher, a liar and a man who would destroy an innocent person in order to advance his own career. (This is, in fact, the climactic drama of the text). Yet through all the sordidness and lying, the personal ruthlessness and disorder, the idealistic missionaries faithfully follow and serve the leader.

They do it not because they are themselves corrupted through material rewards. The prospect of fame is not even what drives them. Think only of Harold Ickes, personally betrayed and brutally cast aside by Clinton, who nonetheless refused to turn on him, even after the betrayal. Instead, Ickes kept his own counsel and protected Clinton, biding his time and waiting for Hillary. Then joined her staff to manage her Senate campaign.

The idealistic missionaries in this true tale bite their tongues and betray their principles, rather than betray him. They do so because in Bill Clinton they see a necessary vehicle of their noble ambition and uplifting dreams. He, too, cares about social justice, about poor people and blacks (or so he makes them believe). They will serve him and lie for him and destroy for him, because he is the vessel of their hope.

Because Bill Clinton "cares," he is the vital connection to the power they need to accomplish the redemption. Because the keys to the state are within Clinton's grasp, he becomes in their eyes the only prospect for advancing the progressive cause. Therefore, they will sacrifice anything and everything-principle, friends, country-to make him succeed.

But Bill Clinton is not like those who worship him, corrupting himself and others for a higher cause. Unlike them, he betrays principles because he has none. He will even betray his country, but without the slightest need to betray it for something else-for an idea, a party, or a cause.* He is a narcissist who sacrifices principle for power because his vision is so filled with himself that he cannot tell the difference.

But the idealists who serve him-the Stephanopoulos's, the Ickes's, the feminists, the progressives and Hillary Clinton-can tell the difference. Their cynicism flows from the very perception they have of right and wrong. They do it for higher ends. They do it for the progressive faith. They do it because they see themselves as having the power to redeem the world from evil. It is that terrifyingly exalted ambition that fuels their spiritual arrogance and justifies their sordid and, if necessary, criminal means. [End Excerpt]

40 posted on 09/15/2003 2:12:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mo1
Hey Bill .. Why ya losing so much weight??? .. Could it be depression ?????

And anger. Two years since 9-11, it is becoming clearer that history will not let him escape his complicity. And he knows it.

41 posted on 09/15/2003 3:33:09 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: kayak
some people....
clearly....
DID inhale.
42 posted on 09/15/2003 3:51:18 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert the rino...)
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To: ppaul
Is it me or do both x42 and Davis look like he** in this picture? Their pasty, pouchy faces, unhealthy color, speak of illness of body or spirit, IMO. Contrast the trim, healthy, ruddy good looks of our current President with these two schemers.
43 posted on 09/15/2003 5:58:30 AM PDT by alwaysconservative ("All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: alwaysconservative
Their pasty, pouchy faces, unhealthy color, speak of illness of body or spirit, IMO.

A.I.D.S.?

44 posted on 09/15/2003 9:02:03 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: sdk7x7
formatting is your friend... you like formatting... formatting is here to help you.
45 posted on 09/15/2003 10:02:07 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: hole_n_one
thanks!
46 posted on 09/15/2003 10:02:48 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: Timesink
that's an interesting idea.
47 posted on 09/15/2003 10:05:39 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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