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Burr leads Bowles, Blue in U.S. Senate race, poll finds [NC]
Charlotte News Observer ^ | ROB CHRISTENSEN

Posted on 09/16/2003 5:00:01 AM PDT by BlackRazor

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1 posted on 09/16/2003 5:00:02 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; Constitution Day; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ...
Asked to rate Easley's job performance, 52 percent rated him good or excellent

What are these people smokin? NC Ping!

2 posted on 09/16/2003 5:02:49 AM PDT by mykdsmom (We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction - Aesop)
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To: BlackRazor
[Burr] expressed surprise that he was leading Bowles, who just came through a statewide campaign, losing to Republican Elizabeth Dole for U.S. Senate last year.

I can't imagine why. It's difficult to come up with a more worthless (and creepy) candidate than Erskine Bowles. Well, except Dan Blue comes to mind..

The GOP should be concerned about Bobby Etheridge - he'd be the toughest D nominee, by far....

3 posted on 09/16/2003 5:06:48 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: mykdsmom
"What are these people smokin?"

My thoughts exactly!
4 posted on 09/16/2003 5:09:22 AM PDT by mtbrandon49
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To: AntiGuv
The GOP should be concerned about Bobby Etheridge - he'd be the toughest D nominee, by far....

I agree. This is the first I'd seen in awhile that he was still considering a run. I thought that I'd seen something some time back that he had ruled it out.

5 posted on 09/16/2003 5:12:39 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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Whoa. That 52% must have included some of the true Dem Kool-Aid drinkers.
6 posted on 09/16/2003 5:17:11 AM PDT by Constitution Day (+ R.I.P., Man in Black. +)
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To: Constitution Day
They must have been polling around Chapel Hill.
7 posted on 09/16/2003 5:29:36 AM PDT by mtbrandon49
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To: BlackRazor
Bobby Etheridge

I have met him a few times. Nice guy. LIBERAL as hell.

8 posted on 09/16/2003 5:31:46 AM PDT by NC Conservative
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To: BlackRazor
It's the Raleigh News & Observer -- please do not inflict that rag on my fair city.

Not that the Charlotte Observer is much better.

Anyway, Burr's lead over Bowles at this point is amazing. I suspect it has a lot to do with name recognition -- negative name recognition in the case of Erskine Bowles, who of course ran for the Senate in 2002 against Elizabeth Dole. For him to be trailing a Congressman who represents Winston-Salem and parts of the Blue Ridge in the far NW corner of the state, and who has never run statewide before, is quite interesting.

A story on the coming NC Senate race last week contained this fascinating statement:

Isn't that nice? A snide comment about having to work for a living from a guy whose candidate is running on his wife's money. I'd like to see that quote get wider exposure, assuming Bowles gets the nomination, as he almost surely will. The "Party of the People" will nominate, for their third consecutive Senate race in NC, an extremely wealthy candidate who will largely self-finance his race (or, more bluntly, will attempt to buy the seat).

9 posted on 09/16/2003 5:33:17 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Only YOU can prevent TWC alarmism.)
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To: mtbrandon49
Ah, if only Jesse had gotten his fence built...
10 posted on 09/16/2003 5:33:44 AM PDT by Constitution Day (+ R.I.P., Man in Black. +)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
"a guy who was selling toasters before he went into Congress "

I agree with you. That is a typical liberal elitist comment from someone who is disconnected from the working class mainstream.
11 posted on 09/16/2003 5:38:35 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: southernnorthcarolina
It's the Raleigh News & Observer -- please do not inflict that rag on my fair city.

Eek! I sure butchered that one! As someone who used to live in Charlotte, I should have known better!

12 posted on 09/16/2003 5:44:24 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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It's almost 14 months until the election! (!!!) The prospect of more than a year of campaign drivel is unspeakable. Can't we just hold the election next week, after the hurricane?
13 posted on 09/16/2003 6:39:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (RIP Johnny Cash ... "Take this weight from me, let my spirit be unchained.")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; LdSentinal; AuH2ORepublican; Pubbie; Impy; Theodore R.; JohnnyZ
Good news. Burr is initially leading Erskine Bowles.
14 posted on 09/16/2003 6:42:38 AM PDT by Kuksool
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Yes. Especially given that Bowels probably has higher name id at this point.
15 posted on 09/16/2003 7:06:27 AM PDT by Impy (Don't you fall into the trap, democrats are full of crap.)
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To: AntiGuv; BlackRazor; JohnnyZ
"The GOP should be concerned about Bobby Etheridge - he'd be the toughest D nominee, by far...."


I'm not so sure about that. Bowles has statewide name ID, and money up the wahoo. He ran quite strongly in rural areas in 2002, much better than I thought he would (and much better than Al Gore did, I may add). I don't think Etheridge will run better than Bowles did in rural areas, even though he used to be a tobacco farmer. At this point, I would be pleased if Etheridge ran for the Senate, since (i) it will open up his House seat, which would give us an excellent chance for a pick-up (President Bush got 53% of the vote in his redrawn district), (ii) Etheridge would probably lose to Bowles in the primary, or allow Blue to slip through with 40% composed almost entirely of black votes, and (iii) regardless of who wins the RAT nomination, he would have a hard time getting all the RATs back together to support him after the contentious primary. So to Etheridge, I say bring it on!

Johnny, what's your take on the RAT race?
16 posted on 09/16/2003 7:10:46 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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Another possibility I forgot to mention if Etheridge runs in the RAT primary: RUN-OFF! With three fairly popular candidates, there's a good chance that none of them would get as much as 40% of the vote, thus making a run-off necessary. That would push back even further the date in which the RATs know who their nominee is, and will leave them precious little time to lick their wounds and unite behind the winner. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Etheridge running for the Senate.
17 posted on 09/16/2003 7:16:04 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: mykdsmom
I didn't get called, did you?
18 posted on 09/16/2003 7:37:54 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: AuH2ORepublican; BlackRazor; Impy; southernnorthcarolina
Bob Etheridge seriously considered running for the Senate in 2002. But Richard Gephart convinced him to stay in the House. Now that the House RATS are destined to be a minority at least until 2012, Etheridge will most likely run for the Senate. Etheridge's House seat, the NC-02, covers parts of Wake County and GOP-trending Johnston County. George W. Bush and Liddy Dole carried the NC-02. Etheridge's House seat rightfully belongs to the GOP. If Bob Etheridge pursues a Senate campaign, we should be able to win the NC-02. I also look forward to seeing Bowles, Blue, and Etheridge smack each other down in the primary. It shall be fun to watch.
19 posted on 09/16/2003 7:40:58 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy
***likely voters said they preferred Burr over Bowles by a 43 percent to 37 percent margin with 20 percent undecided. They said they liked Burr over Blue by a 45 percent to 33 percent***

It is an excellent sign that Burr is polling in the mid-40's at this point in time. Since Burr started campaigning throughout the state, he has been trending upward in the polls.

Feb. Poll: Edwards 49 Burr 31

May Poll: Edwards: 47 Burr 36

July Poll: Edwards: 47 Burr 39
20 posted on 09/16/2003 12:01:50 PM PDT by Kuksool
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