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Evidence from bay prompts speculation in Peterson case
The Modesto Bee ^ | Sept 16, 2003 | Garth Stapely and John Cote'

Posted on 09/16/2003 5:56:44 AM PDT by runningbear

Evidence from bay prompts speculation in Peterson case

Evidence from bay prompts speculation in Peterson case

By GARTH STAPLEY and JOHN COTÉ
BEE STAFF WRITERS

Published: September 16, 2003, 05:35:14 AM PDT

When authorities recovered Laci Peterson's remains on the shore of San Francisco Bay, they also found tape and clear plastic sheeting nearby.

The significance is unknown, given a court-imposed gag order on the double-murder case that prevents either side from discussing evidence.

But that hasn't prevented a host of theories from pundits, observers and experts on what the plastic may or may not mean. There appear to be equal numbers of scenarios presented that support the prosecution's contention that Scott Peterson murdered his pregnant wife and their unborn son, Conner, or that the Modesto man is innocent of the charges.

Connecting the plastic to Scott Peterson could bolster the prosecution's claim that he killed his wife on Dec. 23 or 24, when she was about eight months pregnant, and dumped her body in the bay.

But others argue that a link to Conner could cast doubt on that charge by suggesting that the boy was born before he was killed. Scott Peterson presumably wouldn't have had the opportunity to commit that murder because he came under heavy police surveillance soon after Laci Peterson was reported missing Christmas Eve.

A sizable bundle of the distinctive clear plastic with what appeared to be a length of black electrical tape attached to it was recovered 50 yards from Laci Peterson's remains and was forensically analyzed, according to a source. Results of those tests are not known.

A separate length of black plastic similar to roofing material also was found about 50 yards from the body. The objects appear to be among at least 31 items the defense has asked to examine after they were recovered from the East Bay and logged as potential evidence.

Conner's body was recovered with a thin circle of plastic tape wrapped 1 1/2 times around his neck, extending in another loop that resembles a bow knot.

A theory benefiting Scott Peterson's defense considers that as evidence of someone else's involvement, while others have speculated that the body became entangled in ocean debris.

Walkers found Laci Peterson's badly decomposed torso and lower body April 14 among the rocks at Point Isabel Regional Shoreline south of Richmond. The body was missing its head, feet and hands. The baby's relatively well-preserved body had been found the day before just more than a mile north in marshy grassland, about 15 feet inland from the shoreline, officials said.

A body in plastic would be expected to decompose slower than one exposed to the elements, said Harry J. Bonnell, a San Diego forensic pathologist.

State of body prompts theories

But there are several other reasons that the body of a woman would deteriorate faster if neither was wrapped in plastic, Bonnell said. They include:

Adult stomachs contain bacteria, "a large element in decomposition," Bonnell said, while the stomachs of fetuses do not.

Cold water preserves small bodies better. Adults have more fat, which keeps bodies warmer, allowing bacteria to break down tissues.

Predators like crabs and fish would be expected to seek large food sources first.

The plastic sheeting and plastic material around Conner's neck "may be just normal garbage in the bay," Bonnell said.

Other experts have speculated that the boy was expelled from the womb when the mother's body sufficiently decomposed. He would have been partially protected from predators while in her body.

The wad of clear plastic found near Laci Peterson's remains sports a logo for Target Products Ltd., a Canada-based company that manufactures items such as concrete, grout and stucco for use in building, mining and golf industries.

The polyethylene sheeting appears consistent with plastic commonly used to cover items on pallets.

Target has retail outlets in Sacramento, San ........

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Is cult linked to Peterson killings?


In this May 21, 1990, file photo, Janice Keson reacts to the news of her daughter's death in Salida. BART AH YOU/THE BEE


Then-Deputy District Attorney James Brazelton, left, watches as defendants David Beck, Ronald Willey, Gerald Cruz, Michelle Lee Evans and Ricky Vieira are arraigned in connection with the Salida murders on May 24, 1990. BART AH YOU/THE BEE

Is cult linked to Peterson killings?

By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: September 14, 2003, 07:39:03 AM PDT

Before Scott and Laci Peterson, Stanislaus County had the Salida massacre.

Both cases have been colored with questions of ritualistic murder by Satan worshippers. Some are debating if the current high-profile proceeding could have a connection to the 1990 slaughter of four people in Salida.

Scott Peterson's legal team six weeks ago laid out a strategy relying on the theory that his wife, Laci Peterson, may have been kidnapped in Modesto and slain by Satan worshippers. She was eight months pregnant with a son, Conner, when she disappeared at Christmastime.

Sources close to the case say that in June, Peterson's defense team acquired a coat worn by a Modesto resident allegedly affiliated with an occult group. The man bragged about being involved in Laci Peterson's death, a source said.

The defense submitted the trenchcoat-type jacket for forensic analysis. The jacket bore an Oakland Raiders logo, had a downward rip from one side pocket, and had been torn and sewn in other places.

Also, authorities are consulting with Randy Cerny, a local expert on ritualistic crimes whom they directed not to speak to the media because he may testify in Peterson's proceedings, he said. Cerny had testified in the Salida killers' cases.

TV personalities such as talk show host Larry King and NBC reporter Dan Abrams have discussed a seeming similarity between the Peterson case and the one that shined regional attention on Salida in the early 1990s. The Salida case ended with three defendants on death row and two others with life sentences.

One survivor and two former cult members not involved in that massacre -- all three admittedly scarred by the butchery -- aren't willing to rule out a possible connection.

Some lawyers involved in the Salida case, however, and other experts scoff at the notion. They chalk it up to a trial balloon floated by Peterson's defense camp.

Observers may find out next month whether his attorneys will raise the issue in court. A preliminary hearing is scheduled to begin Oct. 20.

However, such proceedings typically focus on the prosecution's evidence. Defense strategy often doesn't become apparent until the actual trial, which might be a year or more away.

Peterson has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife and unborn son. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Deaths in Salida

Locals were horrified 13 years ago at the gruesome details of the Salida murders, committed by a paramilitary cult whose charismatic and sadistic leader had a deep interest in the occult.

"It was very serious, not just dabbled in," said former group member Angela Young of their unconventional worship. She broke away from the group before the murders, but her younger brother, Ricky Vieira, stayed and was sentenced to death.

Leader Gerald Cruz manipulated group members through bizarre activities that included indoctrination into various forms of the occult, sleep deprivation and brainwashing. At his direction, witnesses said, some members beat, raped and tortured each other.

Cruz eventually led his followers from their living compound in Salida to a nearby duplex where they bashed and slashed the occupants to death with baseball bats and knives. At least some of the victims were disassociated members of Cruz's circle.

Killed were Darlene Paris, 23, Frank Raper, 51, Dennis Colwell, 35, and Richard T. Ritchey, 25.

James Brazelton, a deputy district attorney at the time, steered the prosecution. A few years later, he became district attorney and now oversees the Peterson case, although his senior prosecutors are handling courtroom proceedings.

Sentenced to death in the Salida case were Cruz, now 41; his "enforcer," David Beck, 47; and Vieira, 34. Jason LaMarsh, 36, and Ronald Willey, 37, received prison sentences of 64 years to life. All remain under appeal.

A cult or just bizarre?

Their trials were sprinkled with testimony on the occult, including blood-letting rituals and black magic.

But many details were excluded from parts of the proceedings, sometimes because Brazelton protested, sometimes at the request of Cruz's lawyer.

In a recent interview, Brazelton said, "There was no evidence of any cult or rituals, though the defense tried to make it seem that way."

Cruz's Van Nuys lawyer, Seymour Amster, agreed, saying, "It didn't come out (in court) because it wasn't a cult murder in any sense, in my opinion."

Lawyers for Cruz's followers recalled things differently.

Ramon Magana of Modesto, who represented LaMarsh, remembers stories of rituals under the full moon at midnight along the Stanislaus River. Diaries and letters by group members made reference to desecrating graves, forced sodomy and beatings for disobedience, and even murder, Magana said, calling the writings "chilling."

"My recollection is that Brazelton wanted to focus only on the (Salida slayings) themselves," Magana said. "If the case got cluttered up with anything else, it might hurt his case."

Amster fought to exclude evidence of the occult from much of the proceedings, arguing that the group's worship was irrelevant to the quadruple murder.

Rituals, writings and sacrifice

Modesto attorney William Arthur Miller, who represented Willey, recalled many of the same things as Magana, plus allegations of animal sacrifice. He said group members listened to heavy metal music just before the murders, and remembered talk of group members dancing at one point, as if in a ritual............

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Peterson charges mirror '81 trial


Stockton attorney Douglas Jacobsen represented Jerry Bunyard in a 1981 trial when he faced charges of paying a friend to murder his wife and unborn child in 1979. Bunyard was the first person sent to death row under the state's fetal murder law. BART AH YOU/THE BEE

Peterson charges mirror '81 trial

By GARTH STAPLEY
Murray refrained from commenting on the Bunyard case

Published: September 13, 2003, 06:16:00 AM PDT

His wife was pregnant with their first baby, and he was having an affair. He killed her, and their unborn child. Jurors sent the unrepentant, 30-year-old husband to death row in what eventually was recognized as California's first test case of its fetal murder law.

Twenty-two years later, prosecutors are using the same law to seek the death penalty for Modesto's Scott Peterson, 30, if he is convicted in the slayings of his pregnant wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner.

People vs. Bunyard generated little media interest when that grisly 1981 case was tried in Stockton.

"It's unfair to those who don't get the publicity," said Douglas Jacobsen, a Stockton attorney who represented Jerry Bunyard then. "It's like they're less worthy or something."

Bunyard's wife of three years, Elaine, a nurse's aide in Manteca, was days shy of delivering their baby girl in 1979. In anticipation of a stay in the maternity ward, she had packed a bag and kept it by the front door.

But Jerry Bunyard wasn't as excited. The good-looking, well- spoken carpenter had been carrying on with a Tracy woman and thought his wife would "take him for everything he had" if he divorced her, a witness said.

Enter Earlin Popham, a biker-type boyhood friend who had been helping the Bunyards build a home in Patterson. When Elaine Bunyard was alone in the kitchen, Popham broke an iron skillet on her skull. He then shot her in the head with a shotgun and tried to make the crime look like both a robbery and a suicide.

Popham later testified that his buddy had promised him $1,000 to kill Elaine Bunyard. Popham received a sentence of 25 years to life in exchange for his testimony against Bunyard.

California law requires special circumstances for a death sentence. They include multiple murder and murder for hire.

Murder-for-hire prosecution parameters still were evolving, so Stockton prosecutors chose to go after Bunyard for multiple murder. A 1970 law -- which resulted from the prosecution of a Stockton man who had killed his ex-wife's fetus -- makes no differentiation between children who are born and those who aren't.

Jacobsen doesn't recall any significance attached to the Bunyard trial as a test case for the fetal murder law. He does recall that prosecutors played up evidence that Elaine Bunyard struggled mightily against her attacker, as if "fighting to stay alive for her unborn child."

William Murray, who prosecuted the case, now is a San Joaquin County Superior Court judge and recently was appointed to the prestigious California Judicial Council.

Murray refrained from commenting on the Bunyard case, citing its pending status before the Supreme Court. Death sentences are considered on appeal until carried out.

The case was among the first the California Supreme Court considered under the fetal murder law. In a 1988 appellate ruling, Justice John Arguelles cited "the unique relationship between a pregnant woman and her unborn fetus" in rejecting Bunyard's claim that no one intended to kill the unborn child.

Arguelles cited "the Legislature's determination that viable fetuses receive the same protection under the murder statute."

Bunyard also had claimed that a death sentence for killing an unborn child was tantamount to cruel and unusual punishment, noting that at the time, only four states allowed death for such a crime. The state Supreme Court rejected those contentions as well.

The same court since has upheld similar sentences, including the 1984 Halloween slayings of a San Jose woman and her unborn child by her former husband..........

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1 posted on 09/16/2003 5:56:45 AM PDT by runningbear
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To: Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; TexKat; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; ...
Pinging........
2 posted on 09/16/2003 5:57:30 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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Pinging........
3 posted on 09/16/2003 5:57:59 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
"Predators like crabs and fish would be expected to seek large food sources first."

They also bite little metal lures...DUH...

4 posted on 09/16/2003 6:07:43 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Concerned about globalism? PLEASE read http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/110100-td.htm)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
I thought that they discovered actual evidence.
5 posted on 09/16/2003 6:09:11 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Concerned about globalism? PLEASE read http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/110100-td.htm)
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To: runningbear
I am waiting for Peterson's lawyers to claim that UFOs are behind the killings.
6 posted on 09/16/2003 6:15:55 AM PDT by sticker
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A bundle of clear plastic was found 50 yards from where Laci Peterson's remains were discovered. BART AH YOU/THE BEE
7 posted on 09/16/2003 6:36:18 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
;o)
8 posted on 09/16/2003 6:36:52 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
thnx for the pings...
9 posted on 09/16/2003 7:12:48 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: runningbear; Devil_Anse
Thanks for the ping rb! I'm growing a little impatient!
Devil, you have mail! ;0)
10 posted on 09/16/2003 10:20:36 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear; Jackie-O; Velveeta; Devil_Anse; melodie; alexandria; STOCKHRSE; oceanperch; ...
Thanks for the ping,Runningbear.

Ummmm,lets see,a list of things found in the bay....duct tape,ankle weights,cement bag,tarp #1,tarp #2,clear plastic,blk pastic,55 gal drum,life preserver,launch wheels,rope, carpet,latex gloves,red bull can,santa hat,marriage license...any one else want to add to the list? I know I have left out a lot of things.
11 posted on 09/16/2003 10:30:24 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
WAIT! Marriage liscence?? What did I miss?
12 posted on 09/16/2003 10:37:58 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O
Well maybe I got a l-i-t-t-l-e carried away.OK,I just made up the marriage license,but I DID forget the anchors.
13 posted on 09/16/2003 10:45:08 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: runningbear; All
Thanks for the articles! I always appreciate your hard work....

What is this picture from the modbee supposed to be portraying? Can anyone tell?

Laci Peterson Disappearance

14 posted on 09/16/2003 11:21:45 AM PDT by hergus
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To: hergus
Hi hergus,what a great shot, you captured on MSNBC. It appears to me they used the clear plastic bag to collect(hold) some,dark plastic sheeting? I cannot make out, what else is in the clear bag. Thanks for posting the picture.
15 posted on 09/16/2003 11:36:47 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: runningbear
For the defense it is all going to hinge on testimony about Connor's time of death.

This is going to be a gruesome trial.

If they have SP's fingerprints on the tape or tarp, it is over and it doesn't matter how fast the defense tap dances.

16 posted on 09/16/2003 11:38:43 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Impeach the 9th! Please!!)
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To: runningbear
Looks like Garth Stapely and John Cote' from the Modesto Bee bought a copy of the latest edition of The National Enquirer.

Maybe a follow-up article in the future will speculate on fingerprints on the duct tape.

After reading the NE account posted by Velvetta on the last thread, Mrs dd and I were discussing why there may be some truth to the fingerprint theory...

Remember, Scaught was arrested BEFORE they had a positive ID of Laci and Connor. Perhaps they had this fingerprint evidence prior to the ID?!?

Kinda make ya go, hmmmm.

17 posted on 09/16/2003 11:48:16 AM PDT by Diver Dave (My anchor holds the Solid Rock)
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To: MaggieMay
LOL! ;0)
18 posted on 09/16/2003 11:53:41 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Diver Dave
Perhaps they had this fingerprint evidence prior to the ID?

Excellent! Now I'm going hmmmm.

19 posted on 09/16/2003 11:58:27 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O; hergus
Did you look at post #14. Hergus posted a link to her website,where there is a picture from MSNBC,showing a clear plastic bag with something inside of it. Any idea's about what could be inside the bag???
20 posted on 09/16/2003 12:03:38 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
Those are the vid caps I sit and wait for...{G} I got that one at the time that Laci and Conner were found and RGS told me then that the bag with the tarps were picked up a day after Laci was found. MSNBC never made that distinction back then.

This last article from the modbee has more specific info than I've seen before about the bay crime scene. Someone is leaking like a sieve lately.

Laci Peterson Disappearance

21 posted on 09/16/2003 12:14:19 PM PDT by hergus
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To: hergus
Thanks for that clarification.

As a sideline note. I found another source for the black plastic found near Laci Peterson's body. It is from the Lifeboat Party. And I quote,"Norm Lapera,51, Chief of the East Bay Regional Park District Police,who patrol the area where Laci Peterson's body was found;stated that material found near her body was"heavy gauge black plastic"."

I always try to keep notes on the sources, for the pieces of evidence, that have been mentioned in the media.
22 posted on 09/16/2003 12:27:55 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Diver Dave
Great thought DD. I hadn't thought of that. The one MAJOR thing I have come to a conclusion about in this case however is that LE was DEFINITELY doing a thorough investigation and bless them for keeping the info so close to the vest. I really do believe they had a lot of their ducks in a row pre-arrest. I mean, they didn't just charge him with murder, they have charged pre-meditated murder with special circumstances.!! And a death penalty case too. That was very sharp of you to think of having the fingerprints pre-arrest.
23 posted on 09/16/2003 12:36:40 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: MaggieMay
Do you happen to have a URL for that quote?

I've been collecting quotes from reliable sources about the evidence to put them on my Laci website under the title of Evidentiary Quotes.

I've used several of your quotes on my list, thank you again for all the info.

This case is getting so big, with so many red herrings and false leaks, I thought we could use a list of evidence from official sources.

Laci Peterson Disappearance

24 posted on 09/16/2003 12:57:07 PM PDT by hergus
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To: hergus
The copy,says,copyright the Lifeboat Party. Information may be freely distributed for informational and educational purposes but not to be used for any commercial purposes and should also not be copied and claimed to be origianl work regardless of use. Requests for use may be sent to Gina at:
lifeboatparty@hotmail.com

I hope that helps. I think your website is a wonderful resource!
25 posted on 09/16/2003 1:14:16 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
OK, I know that site now...thanks. :-)

Laci Peterson Disappearance

26 posted on 09/16/2003 1:25:15 PM PDT by hergus
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To: hergus
You have mail. :)
27 posted on 09/16/2003 1:51:28 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
It looked like something black and bulky inside...
Wasn't there some kind of material like weedblock found nearby too? Weedblock is usually black mesh or a grey fabric-like material...
28 posted on 09/16/2003 2:47:21 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O; hergus
I misread hergus post # 14. Today I am sooo obtuse. Hergus was referring to the picture from the ModestoBee. Sorry Jackie-O for the confusion.
Here is the link:
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/7453719p-8371217c.html

The picture is captioned,"A bundle of clear plastic was found 50 yds from where Laci Peterson's remains were found."

I have to go to the bus stop to get my son.I will be back later. :)

29 posted on 09/16/2003 3:11:13 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: hergus
way in the beginning, a tarp was found before Laci or Conner showed up... At first it was reported to be a blue tarp, but I think I am not clear on the color.... Also, that tarp was taken to Ripon Crime lab... Dec/Jan I believe...

Anything after that, could be possible, and if I recall right, other debris was collected at the time of Laci's body washing up, and Conner's...

30 posted on 09/16/2003 5:04:10 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
True and it's the "other debris" and other items that really interest me. I pray they did find ankle weights, anchors, boat wheels etc. Count Peterson sunk. I can hardly believe Geragos has the b@lls to keep floating that Satanic nonsense. It sure hasn't stuck even with other Defense Lawyers.!!
31 posted on 09/16/2003 5:12:25 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Diver Dave
Very interesting theory. I hope you and Mrs. DD are right about that. I always felt as though the prosecution HAD to have *something* good in order to go for the death penalty as quickly as they did.
32 posted on 09/16/2003 5:22:57 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Diver Dave
I like your thinking.
33 posted on 09/16/2003 5:38:09 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: hergus; oceanperch
Both of you have mail.

Oceanperch,yours is from the other day,(I forgot to post)back to you,that I had replied.
34 posted on 09/16/2003 5:43:09 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Hi CC....yep, he sure does have some kahonies to do all he does, but it is all on him.... hahaha..
35 posted on 09/16/2003 6:09:29 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Diver Dave
yes, but also, with the initial crime lab stuff, with lots of evidence LE took, I am sure there are some matches from that which confirmed much of the leaking that is tweaking out, which leads to KOVR, NE et el stories....... ;o)
36 posted on 09/16/2003 6:12:05 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: MaggieMay; Devil_Anse
You have mail, lovee's!
37 posted on 09/16/2003 6:29:41 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O
You have mail,too,my deary. :)
38 posted on 09/16/2003 6:46:03 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Jackie-O
Thanks, Jackie, I wrote you back!
39 posted on 09/16/2003 9:45:21 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: runningbear
Thanks, rb! Looks like I have some catching up to do!
40 posted on 09/16/2003 9:55:10 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper; Jackie-O
Hi Sandylapper,did that nasty hurricane give you much grief?

Jackie-O,U have mail. :)
41 posted on 09/17/2003 12:02:12 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
Hi Mags! That nasty ole hurricane hasn't landed yet. We're expecting rain and maybe high winds tonight/tomorrow on SC coast. Have been talking to a cousin in Portsmouth, VA. They're prepared big time. Thanks for asking.
42 posted on 09/17/2003 12:21:11 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: MaggieMay
I just sent you a long winded freepmail.
43 posted on 09/17/2003 3:49:27 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Devil_Anse
This thread, over here! ;0)
44 posted on 09/17/2003 4:29:11 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O; Sandylapper
Sandylapper,I'm so happy you have dodged the hurricane so far. I will say a prayer that it just skips S.C.

Jackie-O,you have mail. :)
45 posted on 09/17/2003 4:33:01 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
Thanks Mags my dear! I wrote ya back!
46 posted on 09/17/2003 5:32:15 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear
Predators like crabs and fish would be expected to seek large food sources first.

Whatever the cause of the differing states of decomposition of Laci and Conner, this statement above is plain stupid.

Crabs and fish are opportunists, and will nibble on any piece of dead flesh in the water, without regard to their size.


47 posted on 09/17/2003 5:39:01 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: STOCKHRSE
Hey Ray, whaddya say!! ;0)
48 posted on 09/17/2003 6:28:56 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: STOCKHRSE; Devil_Anse
Actually this thread was posted yesterday, but after the Hypnosis thread...
49 posted on 09/17/2003 6:32:58 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Sandylapper
Helloooooo Ms Sandlapper!! Long time no see. I do hope you don't get blown away.
50 posted on 09/17/2003 8:51:47 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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