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Should we fear Candidate Clark?
NBC5.com ^ | 9/16/03

Posted on 09/16/2003 7:59:05 PM PDT by gulfwarvet

Clark was raised as a Baptist (he converted to Catholicism during Vietnam), and attended the local public schools. Clark has said he was influenced as a young man by a World War II veteran, Jimmy Miller, who coached swimming at a local Boys Club.

Clark was first in his class as a 1966 graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point in New York. After a brief stint working for a national poverty program in New York City, Clark studied at Oxford University in London, where he was a Rhodes Scholar -- an honor he shares with a fellow Arkansan who ran for president, Bill Clinton. Clark was at Oxford from 1966 to 1968, and earned a master's degree in philosophy, politics and economics.

After graduating from West Point, Clark entered the United States Army, where he would serve for 34 years and eventually rise to the rank of four-star general. Clark served in Vietnam, where he was an infantryman in command of a mechanized company. Clark was wounded four times in Vietnam and was awarded the Purple Heart and Silver Star.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; clark; election; electionpresident; wesleyclark
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First in his class at West Point, wounded 4 times in Vietnam, and awarded the Purple Heart and Silver Star! What are our talking points on why Bush is a better president than this guy would be? I hope he picks Hilary for a running mate...that would sink him.
1 posted on 09/16/2003 7:59:05 PM PDT by gulfwarvet
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To: gulfwarvet
Isn't this the chap who admitted he lied about something recently? Other posters will remember what it was. This guy will have about as much traction as Al Haig.
2 posted on 09/16/2003 8:06:14 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
He made up some story about how "someone around the White House" called him on 9/11 and told him to say on the air that 9/11 was, in part, the doing of Sadaam Hussein. He was called on it, so he changed his line to "a middle eastern think tank in Canada." Trouble is, there isn't a middle eastern think tank in Canada. Clarke's a scary dude if you ask me.
3 posted on 09/16/2003 8:09:26 PM PDT by Wphile (Keep the UN out of Iraq)
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To: gulfwarvet
These links from UK newspapers (Not American media of course) detail Clark's nearly disasterous and reckless orders to attack or engage Russian troops during Kosovo. Only because the British General under Clark refused to obey the orders was a major incident with the Russians avoided. Clark demonstrated that despite what appear to be impressive credentials on paper, his judgement was seriously flawed.

From the Guardian via FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981521/posts

And the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/671495.stm

I also notice that the News5 article doesn't delve at all into the circumstances of Clark's EARLY and GRUDGING retirement!

I have decided that News 5's coverage isn't worth watching. Consistently anti-Bush biased. Sometimes downright nauseating.

Prairie
4 posted on 09/16/2003 8:09:57 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by The American Democratic Party, also known as Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: gulfwarvet
I must admit I dont know much about him, just rumors/tidbits here and there:

Can someone go into detail (or dispell as BS) the following:

Gave the military hardware used at WACO

Viewed as a wacko by underlings , even transfered/promoted to move him away

Involved in the Arkansas/Stephens group/lippo/Riady stuff

Again-could all be bs, thats why Im asking. Thanks

5 posted on 09/16/2003 8:10:40 PM PDT by icwhatudo (If its about stealing oil, why didn't we do it last time?)
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To: gulfwarvet
Here is what we do to handle this wackjob. His peers in the military hate him. Soon you will see a congregation of these peers (all the way back to his High School on the Hudson days) coming out to dime him out. Should his Vietnam experience be discounted, no. His service there should be respected, but his rise to flag rank and performance there will offer much to talk about. He rose under Clinton and he will suffer for it.
6 posted on 09/16/2003 8:12:04 PM PDT by USNBandit
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To: gulfwarvet
The question Clark should be asking himself is should he fear having Hillary as a running mate, especially if he would win. The most dangerous place in the world for him would be in between her and the Oval Office. I wonder if the words "bullet" and "brain" have any special meaning to him?
7 posted on 09/16/2003 8:15:51 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: USNBandit
Another thought...

This guy is no better than Admiral Anthrax. CJCS William Crowe backed Clinton in '92 and amazingly found himself on the board of a small biomedical company called Bioport. They are the sole producer of the Anthrax Vaccine that couldn't pass FDA requirements to safely produce a consistent product.

8 posted on 09/16/2003 8:17:13 PM PDT by USNBandit
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To: USNBandit
Here's all you need to know:

1. He's a Clinton Operative from Arkansas.

2. Rhodes Scholar -- need we say more.

3. Some Brits think he could have started WWIII.

4. Whether he knows it or not, its all about Hillary.

5. Doesn't think well on his feet.

6. Conversely, he's a Clinton prevaricator (liar).


9 posted on 09/16/2003 8:18:20 PM PDT by CT
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To: gulfwarvet
What sort of country have we become when Democrats can run for President?
10 posted on 09/16/2003 8:18:48 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: gulfwarvet
America seldom elects a really bright person to the office. True, Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar, but a Rhodes Scholar from Arkansas. That's a long long way from first in class at West Point.

I don't think he will go anywhere on his own, but he does present some worry if he is actually being groomed for the Vice Presidency.

11 posted on 09/16/2003 8:18:50 PM PDT by Held_to_Ransom
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To: Held_to_Ransom
The guy really doesn't strike me as all that quick.

I respect his service to the country, but his lack of political experience will show immediately.

Methinks Bush will crush him if he happened to win the Democratic nomination.
12 posted on 09/16/2003 8:22:01 PM PDT by zencat
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To: gulfwarvet
The only thing worse than a democrat is someone who has been in the military and is still a democrat. Something doesn't click right with those folks.
13 posted on 09/16/2003 8:22:03 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party.)
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To: Held_to_Ransom
My only worry is how would Bush do in a debate with him?
14 posted on 09/16/2003 8:22:42 PM PDT by gulfwarvet
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To: gulfwarvet
No, we shouldn't fear Clark. But we should be very afraid of the machine that puts him in the forefront. Clark is an unapologetic communist. Look him up in Google...read the comments he's made over the years.
15 posted on 09/16/2003 8:23:24 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Held_to_Ransom
Not really. In the "modern" era, Teddy Roosevelt, Wilson, Hoover, Johnson, Nixon, Carter and Clinton all had very high IQ's. Granted only the first on the list was a really successful president, although one can argue about Wilson, who had his pluses and minuses (but is overrated still although his stock is slipping a bit, in part because he was a diehard racist).
16 posted on 09/16/2003 8:24:33 PM PDT by Torie
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To: gulfwarvet
Well, on CNN he had trouble holding his own in a conversation with Anderson Cooper during Operation Iraqi Freedom.
17 posted on 09/16/2003 8:26:25 PM PDT by Hazzardgate (RIP Paul Kersey)
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To: Held_to_Ransom
Hillary needs military cred on the ticket
18 posted on 09/16/2003 8:32:06 PM PDT by des
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To: gulfwarvet
What rank did the perfumed pimp hold when his Arkie white trash pal from Oxf#g was first elected with a 47% plurality [approx 18% of the eligible voters]? The depths of the little Klintonista poodle's banal amorality will emerge very soon now, like that little critter popping out of the astronaut's chest in Ridley Scott's prescient metaphor for that most lethal and evil political parasite, the Arkie white trash pal from Oxf#g - small world, isn't it? But of course the eternal question remains, who is running these sordid little sock puppets?
19 posted on 09/16/2003 8:33:36 PM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.)
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To: gulfwarvet
Gen. CLARK =

Presidential Candidate HILLARY's Military Front Man




.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629
20 posted on 09/16/2003 8:35:16 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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