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Hans Blix now says Iraq destroyed WMD 10 years ago
Reuters ^ | September 17, 2003 | nwrep

Posted on 09/16/2003 8:29:32 PM PDT by nwrep

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Former U.N. chief weapons inspector Hans Blix now believes Iraq destroyed its weapons of mass destruction 10 years ago and that intelligence agencies were wrong in their weapons assessment that led to war.

In an interview with Australian radio from Sweden, Blix said the search for evidence of biological, chemical or nuclear weapons would probably only uncover documents at best.

"The more time that has passed, the more I think it's unlikely that anything will be found," Blix said in the interview, which was broadcast on Wednesday.

"I'm certainly more and more to the conclusion that Iraq has, as they maintained, destroyed almost all of what they had in the summer of 1991," Blix said.

In 1991, the United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) found what it called a secret nuclear weapons programme in Iraq. It spent the next seven years dismantling Baghdad's nuclear capability, until its inspectors were thrown out of Iraq.

Before ordering the invasion that toppled President Saddam Hussein, U.S. President George W. Bush referred to an imminent threat posed by Iraqi weapons of mass destruction as a prime justification for war.

"In the beginning they talked about weapons concretely, and later on they talked about weapons programmes...maybe they'll find some documents of interest," Blix said.

Blix spent three years searching for Iraqi chemical, biological and ballistic missiles as head of the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission.

U.N. inspectors left Iraq in March this year as American and British forces prepared to invade. Calls for their reinstatement have been denied, with the U.S. occupation authorities preferring instead to set up their own body, the Iraq Survey Group.

After more than five months of searching, no weapons of mass destruction have been found by the Iraq Survey Group, which consists of about 1,500 experts.

U.S. officials said in July that the search had uncovered documents pointing to a programme to develop such weapons.

But the U.S. media network ABC News reported on Monday that a draft report by the Iraq Survey Group provides no solid evidence that Iraq had such arms when the United States invaded.

The U.S. government has consistently said the search for weapons of mass destruction will take time and that it is confident evidence will eventually be uncovered.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anthrax; blix; communistsubversion; iraq; moron; saddam; sovereigntylist; un; wmd
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1 posted on 09/16/2003 8:29:34 PM PDT by nwrep
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2 posted on 09/16/2003 8:31:28 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
Blixie, you're as over as Britney. Get lost.
3 posted on 09/16/2003 8:32:15 PM PDT by dighton (NLC™)
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To: nwrep
His brain was destroyed ten years ago.
4 posted on 09/16/2003 8:32:34 PM PDT by republicanwizard
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5 posted on 09/16/2003 8:34:27 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Bringing you quality, non-unnecessarily-excerpted threads since 2002)
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To: nwrep
"The more time that has passed, the more I think it's unlikely that anything will be found," Blix said in the interview, which was broadcast on Wednesday.

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I think you are right. They weren't there. The WMD was a fraud perpetrated by this administration.

6 posted on 09/16/2003 8:35:13 PM PDT by RLK
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To: nwrep
Now Bill Clinton told us we should listen to Blix. We were warned. Wonder what old Blix has been up to so quiet over the past few months.
7 posted on 09/16/2003 8:37:13 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: nwrep
When the WMDs are found in Syria, this clown should be declared an enemy combatant and given a summary military tribunal before his ears are smeared with jelly and he is left, bound, in front of an ant hill.
8 posted on 09/16/2003 8:37:13 PM PDT by mrobison
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9 posted on 09/16/2003 8:39:37 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: nwrep
WHY DIDN'T HE SAY THAT LAST SUMMER????
10 posted on 09/16/2003 8:40:29 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: nwrep
The issue was not whether Iraq had WMD. The issue was whether the U.S. could be certain that they did not have WMD.

All they had to do was comply with the inspections. Which, by the way, is why Blix is wrong and the Administration will be proven right. Why did Iraq obstruct the inspection process if they had nothing to hide?
11 posted on 09/16/2003 8:40:50 PM PDT by LouD (Official GOP Vigilante: Fair and Honest Elections - Or Else!)
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12 posted on 09/16/2003 8:41:09 PM PDT by mykdsmom (We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction - Aesop)
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To: nwrep
It doesn't matter, Hans. Iraq was ordered to show evidence of its destruction of its WMD's.

It didn't. Too bad. There are consequences to such failures.

13 posted on 09/16/2003 8:43:56 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: nwrep
As of 1991, huh?

Then why the hell were we still finding crap in Iraq as late as 1995?

Blix, you were a bumbling idiot then, and you are a bumbling idiot now!

14 posted on 09/16/2003 8:44:31 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas (Under Seige - MWCF)
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To: nwrep
Oh well... You win some you lose some...Saddam lost some.
15 posted on 09/16/2003 8:44:57 PM PDT by smith288 ("The key to our success will be your execution." -Scott Adams)
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To: mykdsmom
Oh behave Blixie-May a camel fart darken your glases! May a goat leave little surprises in your path! A curse on your moustach!!
16 posted on 09/16/2003 8:45:55 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!!)
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To: Just mythoughts
I wonder why it is that Blix and Baghdad Bob seems to surface around the same time. Baghdad Bob's interview is suppose to air tomorrow. Are they butt buddies or something. In Baghdad Bob's interview he is said to reveal that Saddam was gathering weapons up until the end.

Who is one to believe. Hitting my head against the wall. (Not)

17 posted on 09/16/2003 8:46:29 PM PDT by TexKat
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18 posted on 09/16/2003 8:48:42 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (This tag line has been intentionally left blank.)
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To: nwrep
Either he is lying, or someone set the President up. Gee, wonder which one it is?
19 posted on 09/16/2003 8:49:16 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: LouD
The issue was not whether Iraq had WMD. The issue was whether the U.S. could be certain that they did not have WMD.

All they had to do was comply with the inspections. Which, by the way, is why Blix is wrong and the Administration will be proven right. Why did Iraq obstruct the inspection process if they had nothing to hide?

Here's an allegory I used in a response on another forum.
See if it works for you.
(The kid and his toys part)
Think that even a liberal could understand it when put this way?

...12 years and many failed resolutions to prove that "weapons of mass destruction" (that IRAQ admitted that they had and were itemized at the end of Gulf War I) were destroyed under the terms negotiated back in '91.

(Imagine that you looked in your child's room and saw all his toys on the floor. You say, "I want these all picked up....and DON'T JUST THROW THEM UNDER THE BED!" You come back in the allotted time....he cracks open the door and says, "See?" And you tap you foot and say, "Let me look under your bed", and he refuses....14 times.)

Since we cannot be assured of the destruction of what we KNOW he had (much less if he was producing more) and given that there are simple ways to reach this land(Anthrax....suitcase dirty nukes)and given that they had missiles that could reach Israel, we gave a final, no sh*t, final ultimatum.

He refused and the rest is history.


20 posted on 09/16/2003 8:52:42 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: LouD
Another point - the article says that Blix searched in Iraq - IIRC, Blix never went to Iraq, his underlings went. Anybody know about this?
21 posted on 09/16/2003 8:56:00 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: LouD
Bingo!

The justifications for war are spelled out quite clearly in UN Resolution 1441.

U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441

I won't quote the whole thing but here are some pertinent clauses and phrases ....

~ Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres ...

~ Deploring further that Iraq repeatedly obstructed immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to sites designated by UNSCOM and IAEA, failed to cooperate fully and unconditionally with UNSCOM and IAEA weapons inspectors, as required by resolution 687 (1991), and ultimately ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA in 1998, ...

~ Deploring also that the Government of Iraq has failed to comply with its commitments pursuant to resolution 687 (1991) with regard to terrorism, pursuant to resolution 688 (1991) to end repression of its civilian population and to provide access by international humanitarian organizations to all those in need of assistance in Iraq, and pursuant to resolutions 686 (1991), 687 (1991), and 1284 (1999) to return or cooperate in accounting for Kuwaiti and third country nationals wrongfully detained by Iraq, or to return Kuwaiti property wrongfully seized by Iraq, ...

There is much more in that resolution, much of it having nothing at all to do with WMD, that constitutes reason for removing the regime of Saddam Hussein.

22 posted on 09/16/2003 8:56:22 PM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: eddie willers
And what happens when you punish your child for lying and then you finally do look “under the bed” and find that there are indeed no toys hidden there?
23 posted on 09/16/2003 9:00:36 PM PDT by thtr
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To: Southack
My next door neighbor was pulled over by the Police for a minor traffic violation. He was asked to produce proof of liability insurance. He could not. He paid the price also. He is NOW in compliance. No longer a threat.
24 posted on 09/16/2003 9:01:02 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (leading the "Right Wing Wrecking Crew".)
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To: nwrep
I'm certain that a thorough inspection of the outlaw, terrorist-sponsor nations of Syria and Lebanon will reveal this to be true. Waiting for the results.
25 posted on 09/16/2003 9:01:57 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: thtr
Say, "See where lying gets you?"

Give me a hard question next time.

26 posted on 09/16/2003 9:02:25 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Lunatic Fringe
LOL!

PS: I was wrong about you earlier. Please accept my apology. Egg-on-face alert for MTR!

28 posted on 09/16/2003 9:04:56 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: eddie willers
"Say, "See where lying gets you?""

Great parenting skills you have there - Problem is.. the kid didn't lie

29 posted on 09/16/2003 9:07:59 PM PDT by thtr
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To: thtr
Problem is.. the kid didn't lie

He also didn't do as he was told.

Spare the rod....

30 posted on 09/16/2003 9:10:11 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: RLK
I think you are right. They weren't there. The WMD was a fraud perpetrated by this administration.

Yep, sure is looking that way. The whole rush to and need to go to war was based on falsehoods. I expected as much.

Richard W.

31 posted on 09/16/2003 9:11:21 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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32 posted on 09/16/2003 9:11:54 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a chance?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Vis prior:

I mistook your ID for another, who I disagreed with yesterday. Sorry for the bother. The "other" -- Lunatic Fridge -- was an insufferable boor and obviously a product of the 1990's educational establishment (= a moron). Sorry to bother you with this.

33 posted on 09/16/2003 9:12:02 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: thtr
And what happens when you punish your child for lying and then you finally do look “under the bed” and find that there are indeed no toys hidden there?

You loot his room and steal his oil for embarrassing you?

Richard W.

34 posted on 09/16/2003 9:15:57 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: RLK
The US received bogus foreign intellegence about WMD to pull us into this war. Bush was duped and heads should be rolling. However at this point that would be political suicide. Meanwhile our military in Iraq are like sitting ducks at a carnival, a very sad situation. Our military are "mere" pawns in a bad politcal climate. I'd like to know how many of our congress's immediate relatives are serving on the front lines in Iraq?
35 posted on 09/16/2003 9:16:07 PM PDT by doc
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This was posted on another thread today .... seems to be appropriate for this one, too.

Subject: Weapons of Mass Destruction.....

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998


"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002


"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WMD'S AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

36 posted on 09/16/2003 9:18:02 PM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: doc
Bush was duped and heads should be rolling.

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I don't think he was duped. He was siezing or creating any excuse to have a showpiece war against an easy and already villified enemy.

37 posted on 09/16/2003 9:21:17 PM PDT by RLK
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To: nwrep
Former U.N. chief weapons inspector Hans Blix now believes Iraq destroyed its weapons of mass destruction 10 years ago and that intelligence agencies were wrong in their weapons assessment that led to war.

I know that's not the case, Blixie, and you know that's not the case, Blixie, but just to humor you let's assume you have good reason to believe they did. Or had good reason until...

...an intact biowarfare R400 bomb was found in Iraq (as recently as Feb 2003 - filled with liquid goodies.)

It's in your report, isn't it, Blixie?

" The Iraqi government claimed to have destroyed all its biological R400 stockpile in 1991, but as proof it provided only the diary of one officer who recounted the destruction of 157 bombs - 100 filled with botulinum toxin, 50 with anthrax and seven with aflatoxin," - "White House scorns bomb find," byJulian Borger and Suzanne Goldenberg, guardian.co.uk , February 25, 2003

38 posted on 09/16/2003 9:21:28 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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"I'm certainly more and more to the conclusion that Iraq has, as they maintained, destroyed almost all of what they had in the summer of 1991," Blix said.

What a load of BS

39 posted on 09/16/2003 9:21:37 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: kayak
Thanks for that post Kay .. I think I'll email it to my annoying liberal brother in-law
40 posted on 09/16/2003 9:27:36 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: doc
It's apparent we have followed one adolescent president with yet another. The ling term damage done by the second is going to be worse than the damage by the first. We are now in a condition of leadership free fall with choices between Owlgores and Clintons versus Bushs with no way out for the country.
41 posted on 09/16/2003 9:39:48 PM PDT by RLK
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To: kayak
Excellent. If you did the research to gather all that, awesome work and many thanks!
42 posted on 09/16/2003 10:12:36 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: nwrep
Small minor point...U.N. inspecters weren't kicked out of Iraq...they left under duress.
43 posted on 09/16/2003 10:51:42 PM PDT by stylin19a (is it vietnam yet ?)
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To: nwrep
Oh, yeah... Saddam told him all about when he and Uday went out in the back yard, and shot of the lot of those WMDs just for fun one Saturday night, after polishing off a quart of Southern Comfort. Cost so damn much to make the things in the first place, 'Ol Saddam figured he'd just pretend he still had 'em, in case he needed some to scare off any neighborhood tough guys. But, you know old Blxie, his memory is just not what it used to be, and so, it just slipped his mind. Hey, it was an honest mistake, so don't get all huffy about it!
44 posted on 09/16/2003 10:53:54 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: nwrep
Setting up for denigrating the documentation we are about to present to the world.
45 posted on 09/16/2003 10:56:08 PM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: RLK
You must be another dim trolling for an argument. But your stupidity is starting to show.
46 posted on 09/16/2003 10:59:06 PM PDT by AIRFORCE76 ("from my cold dead fingers..")
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To: nwrep
What else is buried out there in the high desert west of Baghdad?

A search team discovers a MiG-25 Foxbat buried beneath the sands in Iraq. Several MiG-25 interceptors and Su-25 ground attack jets have been found buried at Al-Taqqadum air field west of Baghdad.

More photos here and here.

49 posted on 09/16/2003 11:10:50 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: nwrep
Hans Blix is on crack.
50 posted on 09/16/2003 11:16:19 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats have stunted brain development!)
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