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CA: Tribes ply competitors with campaign donations
Contra Costa Times ^ | 9/18/03 | Don Thompson - AP

Posted on 09/18/2003 8:26:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
I don't suppose the fact that the CA Republican Party fell flat on its face on this matters either.

Make up your mind. You can't blame somebody else and still claim to put your "head on the block". Either your accountable or not.

At least Tom, was willing to put his head on the block.

Then I expect him to acknowledge the failure of the car tax referendum. Alert those working on the DL referendum that there are no sure things. Knowing that he couldn't even get the car tax referendum going, the DL referendum will be tougher. Everybody in the public was against the car tax not so with the DLs.

Given the information from the previous referendum and given the way Arnold is beat over the head with the DL referendum, it's obvious that McClintock hopes to gain some advantage in the Governors race from the DL referendum but does not expect the referendum to succeed. You do notice the lack of warnings about the previous failure?

You really hate Tom, don't you?

You guys hold him out as perfect, that invites others to find fault with your candidate. "Hate" is a little strong, don't you think?

21 posted on 09/18/2003 11:53:02 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: NormsRevenge; onyx; Tamsey; Poohbah; RGSpincich; doodlelady
Read posts 20....... for the truth on the what happen to the "stop the car tax by referendum" and who jump started the recall....ping
22 posted on 09/18/2003 12:01:20 PM PDT by tophat9000 (The price for Tom to drop is ....Parsky goes ....let Tom have the CA party purse strings)
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To: RGSpincich
You guys hold him out as perfect, that invites others to find fault with your candidate. "Hate" is a little strong, don't you think?


Perfect, NO but you bend things to your onw purpose, and so does others, Bug deal. Get a grip. Who's inviting who here to find fault? You guys seem more driven by spite than anything, and around here lately, it takes its a form of animosity that , imo, can beconstrued as hate. Your win at any cost is what is driving all this dissension around here, imo. Keep it up! You're only driving people away. (or is that your goal?) hhmmmm?

23 posted on 09/18/2003 12:33:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (I brake for RINOs.)
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To: tophat9000
These barking dogs don't want to hear that. They just want to win. and they don;t care who they trash along the way. DU..hhh!!!! ;-)
24 posted on 09/18/2003 12:41:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (I brake for RINOs.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Well we where hoping for a little American revolution sprint here and are ending up with a little French revolution sprint ... looks who ramping up the guillotine for the now expendable troops
25 posted on 09/18/2003 12:57:50 PM PDT by tophat9000 (The price for Tom to drop is ....Parsky goes ....let Tom have the CA party purse strings)
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To: RGSpincich
Gosh Tom Gosh
26 posted on 09/18/2003 1:44:40 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: tophat9000
and Tom team got redirect in to the recall

Oh yeah a big factor in the recall. Not mentioned once in the following article nor is the car tax referendum mentioned.

The guy who paid for the recall unintentionally vaulted your boy into the limelight.

Issa's bid to recall governor questioned

"Dirty tricks" killed the referendum on the car tax? Looks to me like lose lips tipped off the Dems. Threaten to use a referendum before the law is passed, they make it referendum proof. Their lawyers are better than McClintock's part time lawyer, then and now.

27 posted on 09/18/2003 2:20:48 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Within minutes of that measure being chaptered, the paperwork will be filed with the Secretary of State to referend it. This will automatically suspend the act for 90 days.

He's doing it now, but a bit differently. He couldn't do it until the car tax was imposed. It's been imposed, and Tom has followed through. You bad mouth him for not doing something that wasn't possible to do yet. As soon as it was possible, he did it in spades.

He's gone the route of initiative instead of referendum. A referendum could only appeal the car tax, leaving it where it would have been before the increase.

The initiative is a constitutional provision that not only repeals the car tax increase, but reapeals the car tax ALTOGETHER. It punishes the politicians for messing with it in the first place.

Tom has not only followed through on his promise, he has improved it.

You shouldn't make these kinds of statements when you don't understand the process.

Hb

28 posted on 09/19/2003 4:43:15 PM PDT by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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ya want to ping everybody to #28?

Hb
29 posted on 09/19/2003 4:46:31 PM PDT by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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You shouldn't make these kinds of statements when you don't understand the process.

I know thw process. I said he tipped his hand. Meaning he should have kept his mouth shut and hit them with the referendum AFTER it was law. He warned them and they made it referendum proof.

"Sacramento will not see one cent of the increased car tax" - Tom McClintock when warning Democrats of the referendum on Jan. 23, 2003

My fees have tripled. Sacramento has my money.

30 posted on 09/19/2003 5:48:34 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
I said he tipped his hand.

Yes you did, after tophat9000 explained the process. People can read the thread.

Hb

31 posted on 09/19/2003 5:54:35 PM PDT by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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