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Why People Tell Lawyer Jokes: September 11 and Judicial Terrorism
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| 18 Sept 03
| Chuck Colson
Posted on 09/18/2003 9:13:30 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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What in the bleedin' world could Boeing have done to prevent this attack? Freakin' leeches!
Tort and judicial reform is about as interesting to me as watching paint dry, and I'm sure that it's the same for many of you. Still, we must tame this tiger now, or it will eat our children and children's children.
"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain." --John Adams
It is time for us to study, and prosecute, the war within our culture, to overcome the tyranny of the courts and the unbridled avarice of our neighbors.
To: Mr. Silverback
One additional note: I think the word "terrorism" is used too loosely her. As bad as these judges and lawyers are, we must not lose the language, especially when we are engaged in a world war against terrorist forces.
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posted on
09/18/2003 9:15:51 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(How do you get an art major off your porch? Pay him for the pizza.)
To: Mr. Silverback
her=here, as in "by Colson here."
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posted on
09/18/2003 9:16:30 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(How do you get an art major off your porch? Pay him for the pizza.)
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posted on
09/18/2003 9:17:51 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(How do you get an art major off your porch? Pay him for the pizza.)
To: Mr. Silverback
It is amazing how some of you "small government" conservatives believe that the United States should be an insurer of last resort for the people who died in these attacks. Come the end of the day, I doubt any jury will find that the Port Authority or the Airlines have any liability and further if it is true, then the true beneficiary will be the Worker's Comp insurance carrier as they have already paid out billions to the victims' families and are entitled to seek re-imbursement from any third parties.
I am not a fan of the tort suit. But I am less a fan of the victims' compensation fund.
To: Mr. Silverback
A flock of geese - A murder of crows - A tyranny of lawyers
To: Mr. Silverback
Why People Tell Lawyer Jokes
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posted on
09/18/2003 9:37:00 AM PDT
by
martin_fierro
(Please direct all Quality Control complaints to Tijeras_Slim)
To: bigeasy_70118
Interesting point, however, I believe that too many of we "small governement conservatives," like yourself, have stopped seeing the trees for the forest when it comes to government expenditures. We spend federal dollars on so many things we shouldn't that when something legitimate comes along, it is often bashed.
James Madison wrote the following in Federalist 45. The emphasis is mine: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce.
Did these people die in a war action against the United States?
Yes. That alone is enough to justify federal compensation.
Is it the United States government's fault that these attacks happened?
Most likely, yes. We will never know for sure because we would need a crystal ball to see if a non-Clintonized intelligence apparatus could have prevented it, but it is my firm belief that 9/11 is the result of the negligence of the previous administration. Due to security concerns, the chances this would be proven in court are slim.
I suppose there is some room for debate on whether the victims of this war action need to be compensated (and certainly, the amount is extreme in most cases) but there is no doubt that it is within the federal purview. Also, characterizing it as insurance only counts if it is insurance; insurance doesn't pay for war damages, so only the government could make good.
Let's not quibble about federal war expenditures. Save your ammo for pork and income redistibution schemes.
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posted on
09/18/2003 9:43:44 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(We live in fame, or go down in flame, nothing can stop the US Air Force!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Judges are just another cog in the wheel of the rotten and corrupt legal system that has been hijacked by those that feed off it. Can anyone ever imagine a judge ruling that a 'legal representative' doesn't have the right to seek compensation in any situation? They are all like maggots propagating each other.
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posted on
09/18/2003 9:53:14 AM PDT
by
paul51
To: Mr. Silverback
What in the bleedin' world could Boeing have done to prevent this attack?Well, just look at what's been done to prevent another attack.
Improve the cockpit door.
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posted on
09/18/2003 9:58:39 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Yet another example of judicial idiocy. How long before the court houses are stormed and some of these legal eagles are tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail?
Not that I'm advocating that!
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posted on
09/18/2003 10:01:27 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
To: Mr. Silverback
99.6% of all lawyers give the rest a bad name.
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posted on
09/18/2003 10:01:38 AM PDT
by
Big Mack
To: bigeasy_70118
"Come the end of the day, I doubt any jury will find that the Port Authority or the Airlines have any liability"
Then you've obviously never in your life picked up a newspaper. They are full of juries awarding ridiculous amounts of money in frivolous lawsuits.
To: Mr. Silverback
if I hear the US referred to as a "democracy" one more time this week I am going to freak out! Between supporters of smoking bans, to gun control freaks and War On Drugs nazis, it seems that individual liberty, natural rights and our Constitution are not safe from anyone.
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posted on
09/18/2003 10:11:53 AM PDT
by
bc2
(http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
To: Mr. Silverback
The blood of the innocent victims of 9/11 STILL cries out from the ground for justice, and justice does NOT mean scoring a huge, legal-system-enabled robbery of Boeing, the Port Authority, the airlines, etc. who were every bit as much victims as any individual. As much sympathy/empathy as I have for the friends & families of the victims, some of them need to really examine their priorities, and consider carefully the ramifications of their actions. In other words, they need to think for themselves instead of letting a money-grubbing lawyer lead them around by the nose.
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posted on
09/18/2003 10:26:17 AM PDT
by
Hegemony Cricket
(If you keep drawing a blank... you're probably using the wrong end of the pencil.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Forget giving to the Red Cross or Congress voting largesse for the victims after the next terrorist attack. Just let the victims sue and make lawyers filthy rich, judges important and eat out what substance is left after the attack instead!
Whatever happened to 'comforting the afflicted' rather than turning it into just another moneygrubbing scheme for the lawyer class and a way for judges to demonstrate their power?
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posted on
09/18/2003 10:40:56 AM PDT
by
Gritty
To: Mr. Silverback
Tort and judicial reform is about as interesting to me as watching paint dry, and I'm sure that it's the same for many of you. This is probably true but very unfortunate. One of the reasons we lose jobs to foreign countries is the sky-high insurance premia, which are high, in turn, because of the ridiculous litigation and huge awards. We all are paying these awards, and most people do not know that.
I do not blame Bush for the loss of jobs as many do here on FR --- it's the function of the rest of the economy --- but I do blame him for the lack of two immediate reforms: immigration and tort.
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posted on
09/18/2003 10:54:20 AM PDT
by
TopQuark
To: TopQuark
Absolutely - it is getting to the point where it will no longer be possible to manufacture anything because the liability will be too high.
Gum
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posted on
09/18/2003 11:21:20 AM PDT
by
ChewedGum
(http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
To: gpl4eva
Come again?
Was the activity going on inside the Trade Center not capitalistic? Were those hundreds of companies all secretly organs of the government?
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posted on
09/18/2003 11:36:09 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(We live in fame, or go down in flame, nothing can stop the US Air Force! Happy B-Day, USAF!)
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