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Montreal man linked to Clark controversy - Presidential candidate claims pressure
The Star ^ | 9/18/03

Posted on 09/18/2003 12:25:15 PM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON—A Montreal man has emerged as the key figure in a controversy that has dogged Democratic presidential aspirant Wesley Clark during the summer months.

Questions have swirled since June when the former NATO commander alleged on national television that he was pressured to link the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in a mystery phone call he received.

Clark first implied the call, not long after the attacks, might have come from White House, then later said it came from a Middle Eastern think tank in Canada. He has never identified the caller.

As Clark kicked off his campaign yesterday in Little Rock, Ark., Thomas Hecht, founder of the Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies, told the Star he placed the call to Clark and drew his attention to a potential link between Saddam and the Al Qaeda suicide hijackers.

But Hecht said he did not pressure the former army general, who became a CNN commentator after retiring from the military, to make the link and said the matter was raised in a phone call inviting Clark to come to Montreal for a speech.

Clark's original claim and its subsequent variations had drawn much press and Internet attention in the United States as it became increasingly clear he was set to become the 10th candidate for the Democratic nomination.

Clark told the widely watched NBC show Meet the Press June 15 that the pressure to make the link "came from the White House, it came from people around the White House. It came from all over.

"I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, `You got to say this is connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism. This has to be connected to Saddam Hussein.'"

Clark, in the interview, said he asked for evidence of the link and received none and still hasn't seen any evidence.

As he prepared for his presidential bid, Clark backed away from his comment, denying he was drawing a link to the White House, telling Fox News in July: "I personally got a call from a fellow in Canada who is part of a Middle Eastern think tank who gets inside intelligence information. He called me on 9/11."

Later in July, in another television interview, he said: The call came from "a man from a Middle East think tank in Canada, the man who's the brother of a very close friend of mine in Belgium. He's very well connected to Israeli intelligence and he follows Middle Eastern events very closely."

Hecht said his sister, who lives in Brussels, knows Clark socially.

One columnist, George Will of the Washington Post, took Clark to task because, he said, there was no Middle East think tank in Canada.

The Begin-Sadat Centre has its headquarters in Israel and its only office elsewhere is the one Hecht established in Montreal. Former prime minister Brian Mulroney is on its board, but strictly in a ceremonial role, Hecht said.

Hecht said he called Clark either Sept. 12 or Sept. 13 — not the morning of the attacks, as the former general said — but he merely passed on information he had received from Israel which drew a purported link.

Hecht said Clark called him in Montreal Sept. 7 this year to clarify the conversation the two men had, perhaps in anticipation of the question being raised again as part of his campaign.

"I told him the Begin-Sadat Centre is a center for strategic studies in Israel and has made various studies on the Iraqi threat to the state of Israel and therefore we have carried out analyses of what connection there could be between Saddam Hussein and other militant Islamic groups," Hecht said.

"I don't know why I would be confused with the White House. I don't even have white paint on my house," he added. "I saw those comments he made and I just chuckled."

The Clark campaign did not respond to a request for comment.


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Verrrrrrrrry Intersting
1 posted on 09/18/2003 12:25:15 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
He is a lyin' prima donna.
3 posted on 09/18/2003 12:31:16 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: areafiftyone; Miss Marple
The plot thickens..

Howie's friends in the media begin to to pick Wes apart...hehehehe!

4 posted on 09/18/2003 12:31:59 PM PDT by Dog
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To: areafiftyone
Everyone knows it was a self-important lie.
5 posted on 09/18/2003 12:32:11 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: areafiftyone
"I did not have actual conversations with that man, Mr. Hecht."
6 posted on 09/18/2003 12:32:33 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: GoOrdnance
Why you blaming Peach??
7 posted on 09/18/2003 12:32:45 PM PDT by Dog
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To: GoOrdnance
But this can't be!!! Peach has assured all of us that Clark has claimed specifically that he received a call from the White House on 9/11.

Which is exactly what this article confirms.

8 posted on 09/18/2003 12:33:24 PM PDT by alnick
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To: GoOrdnance; Peach
But it is!!! And Peach is correct in her assurance.
9 posted on 09/18/2003 12:34:24 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: Dog
Snicker Snicker!
10 posted on 09/18/2003 12:34:49 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
MUST read
11 posted on 09/18/2003 12:35:01 PM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: areafiftyone
I hope this puts a steak in the heart of his campaign but since it is supposedly a clinton spectacle, I doubt it.
12 posted on 09/18/2003 12:37:41 PM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: GoOrdnance
Clark lied - why can't you just face the fact and stop blaming everyone else? Sheesh, you sound like a Clinton knee-padder.
13 posted on 09/18/2003 12:40:37 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks for the link Dio.... Clark is buddies with a guy who pushed tainted blood..........hmmm!
14 posted on 09/18/2003 12:41:19 PM PDT by Dog
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To: GoOrdnance
Clark first implied the call, not long after the attacks, might have come from White House, then later said it came from a Middle Eastern think tank in Canada. He has never identified the caller.

This article seems to confirm what I've been saying all along. In addition, I've provided you with the transcript from MSNBC's web site regarding Clark's exact words to Tim Russert.

You can try to spin it any way you wish, but Clark has lied repeatedly about this matter.

16 posted on 09/18/2003 12:42:45 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: areafiftyone
So now he didn't get the "shrinking call" on 9 / 11 after all.

Lemme ask you somethin'.

If YOU had this conversation on 9 / 11, wouldn't you remember what day it was?

17 posted on 09/18/2003 12:42:50 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: GoOrdnance
What about the following statement from the article don't you understand: Clark first implied the call, not long after the attacks, might have come from White House, then later said it came from a Middle Eastern think tank in Canada.
18 posted on 09/18/2003 12:43:08 PM PDT by alnick
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To: GrandmaPatriot
Agree with you that this is a Clinton spectacle and would assume shortly that the media will be all at Clark's feet and negative articles will be no more from the mainstream press.

That means it is up to Freepers to dig up and post the dirt on Clark! Someone has to get out the info on Clark and might as well be Freepers and a few of the media friendly to the truth!
19 posted on 09/18/2003 12:43:21 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: areafiftyone
"Clark first implied the call, not long after the attacks, might have come from White House, then later said..."

No, Clark first SAID the call came from the White House - there was no "implied" involved.

Typical revisionists already at work.

20 posted on 09/18/2003 12:43:31 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: areafiftyone
No, it wasn't Bush who told me to say this, it was my brothers wifes uncles cousins' previous cat owners half-sister who told me.

Anyways, I'm just a patsy for the Clintons, but I enjoy being used and abused.
21 posted on 09/18/2003 12:43:34 PM PDT by Guillermo ( Proud Infidel)
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To: Dog
He's blaming me because yesterday on another Clark thread GoOrdnance first claimed there did not exist a transcript of Clark saying the White House called him on 9/11 to exert pressure.

When I provided him with a transcript from MSNBC's web site, he changed tactics and then said I was mis-reading the transcript!

He still to this day refuses to acknowledge that "his candidate" has lied repeatedly and been caught lying - about a very important matter, I might add.

We can lead them to water, but we cannot make them drink (or read, apparently).
23 posted on 09/18/2003 12:45:06 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Mom look at Dio's link in post 11.....get to jnow Mr. Thomas Hecht.
24 posted on 09/18/2003 12:45:32 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
jnow=know
25 posted on 09/18/2003 12:45:51 PM PDT by Dog
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To: areafiftyone
there are no think tanks in Canada.
26 posted on 09/18/2003 12:46:07 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: GoOrdnance
You are posting again from that silly web site, I see, spin something.

I'll publish the MSNBC link in a later post.
28 posted on 09/18/2003 12:46:16 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Quilla
We are dealing with a DU'er, I'm quite sure, although a review of his In Forum posts looks quite conservative.

Regardless, here is the link to the MSNBC/Russert transcript with Clark in which Clark states the White House called him to pressure him on 9/11.http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/927000.asp
30 posted on 09/18/2003 12:48:06 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Guillermo
At least the Son of Sam killer had the good sense to say his dog told him to do the things he did! Clark just hears voices from non-existent think tanks.....
32 posted on 09/18/2003 12:49:01 PM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Allan
bump
33 posted on 09/18/2003 12:49:56 PM PDT by Allan
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To: areafiftyone
INTERLOCUTOR: "General Clark, did you or did you not receive a call from Mr. Hecht on the 11th of September?"

GENERAL CLARK: "Uh, let me refer to counsel."

(General Clark leans over to consult with his lawyer, William Blythe Jefferson Clinton of Clinton, Clinton and Cheatem)

GENERAL CLARK: "Uh, Sir, it depends on what the meaning of "did" is.",

34 posted on 09/18/2003 12:49:56 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: Dog
Thanks for the info. Obvious that Clark is nothing but a front for the Clintons. Just announced on Fox that he had to cancel his speech to the Citadel today because of the Hurricane.

Now the other RAT candidates are demanding that he answer if he is going to be in the first debate next week that he is eligible for that is being hosted by the WSJ about the economy.

Now the question is -- Will he or will he not participate in the debate? It would be interesting to watch because if he doesn't participate, maybe the RAT candidates will go after Clark instead of President Bush!
35 posted on 09/18/2003 12:50:45 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: GoOrdnance
hahahaha. Yes, we can all see how you are supporting President Bush, by spinning for Clark.
36 posted on 09/18/2003 12:51:29 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: MEG33
"White House Smite House," says Clark, "what's the big deal? Since when did us Democrats have to be precise?"
37 posted on 09/18/2003 12:51:47 PM PDT by geedee (America is a land where men govern, but women rule.)
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To: GoOrdnance
You've been shown the transcript where Clark made the claim. You, like most democrats, aren't the least bit interested in what's true.

You're obviously a troll and will never admit the truth.

Buh-bye.
38 posted on 09/18/2003 12:52:12 PM PDT by alnick
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To: geedee
LOL!
39 posted on 09/18/2003 12:53:15 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: GoOrdnance
GEN. CLARK: I think it was an effort to convince the American people to do something, and I think there was an immediate determination right after 9/11 that Saddam Hussein was one of the keys to winning the war on terror. Whether it was the need just to strike out or whether he was a linchpin in this, there was a concerted effort during the fall of 2001 starting immediately after 9/11 to pin 9/11 and the terrorism problem on Saddam Hussein.
MR. RUSSERT: By who? Who did that?
GEN. CLARK: Well, it came from the White House, it came from people around the White House. It came from all over. I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, “You got to say this is connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism. This has to be connected to Saddam Hussein.”
40 posted on 09/18/2003 12:53:16 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: GrandmaPatriot
"I hope this puts a steak in the heart of his campaign but since it is supposedly a clinton spectacle, I doubt it."

Rare, one would presume.
41 posted on 09/18/2003 12:53:24 PM PDT by billhilly (Nominate Big Al Sharpton for fearless behavior.)
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To: GoOrdnance
Read the transcript again sport.,..

Russert : By who? Who did that? GEN. CLARK: Well, it came from the White House, it came from people around the White House. It came from all over. I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, “You got to say this is connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism. This has to be connected to Saddam Hussein.” I said, “But—I’m willing to say it but what’s your evidence?” And I never got any evidence. And these were people who had—Middle East think tanks and people like this and it was a lot of pressure to connect this and there were a lot of assumptions made. But I never personally saw the evidence and didn’t talk to anybody who had the evidence to make that connection.

42 posted on 09/18/2003 12:54:12 PM PDT by Dog
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To: PhiKapMom
Regarding the next debate, I think Clark said yesterday he had a "hard" commitment he couldn't break. (hmmm?)

My guess is he needs a lot of prepping time to get ready for the debates to follow.
43 posted on 09/18/2003 12:54:34 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: areafiftyone; okie01; Peach
Interesting indeed!

Later in July, in another television interview, he said: The call came from "a man from a Middle East think tank in Canada, the man who's the brother of a very close friend of mine in Belgium.

Just how "close" is this lady? Enquiring minds want to know...

"...He's very well connected to Israeli intelligence and he follows Middle Eastern events very closely."

Knows some guy in the Mossad who tolerates him. Closely reads DEBKA and the NYTimes. In other words, my money says he's another speculating blowhard, and gets paid for it. The f'in Saudis basically admited it was AQ by the evening of 9/11.

Good work by the reporter.

45 posted on 09/18/2003 12:55:39 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: GoOrdnance
So please explain how it is possible that Clark "felt pressure from the White House."

Was this from supernatural negative vibes honing in on his location or what? The point of Clark's statement is that HE FELT PRESSURE FROM THE WHITEHOUSE. He brought up the phone call to substantiate that he "felt" WH pressue.

Please explain what the man is talking about.

46 posted on 09/18/2003 12:56:08 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: Peach
Thanks Peach.I love those transcripts!
47 posted on 09/18/2003 12:56:29 PM PDT by MEG33
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>here is the link to the MSNBC/Russert transcript with Clark in which Clark states the White House called him to pressure him on:
"GEN. CLARK: Well, it came from the White House, it came from people around the White House. It came from all over. I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, “You got to say this is connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism. This has to be connected to Saddam Hussein.” I said, “But—I’m willing to say it but what’s your evidence?” And I never got any evidence. And these were people who had—Middle East think tanks and people like this and it was a lot of pressure to connect this and there were a lot of assumptions made. But I never personally saw the evidence and didn’t talk to anybody who had the evidence to make that connection."

Peach, either you lie,
or you don't read carefully.
Clark says pressure came

from the White House and
people around the White House,
and then he relates

a phone call he got,
but he never says the call
came from the White House.

49 posted on 09/18/2003 12:56:41 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: PhiKapMom
A freeper on another thread about Clark today posted pictures of beautiful young children who were killed from Clark's self proclaimed "humane war" in Kosovo.

I've asked her to try to look for Clark threads and keeping posting those pictures because it puts such a human face on the unncessary war. I'll try to find her and ping her.

50 posted on 09/18/2003 12:56:48 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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