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Terri Schindler-Schiavo's Story on Bill O' Reilly NOW
Fox News Channel | 9-18-03 | floriduh voter

Posted on 09/18/2003 5:34:19 PM PDT by floriduh voter

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To: LADY J; kimmie7; nutmeg
11:00 EST THE FACTOR STARTS NOW...
21 posted on 09/18/2003 8:02:21 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock
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To: nutmeg
Looks like this has been removed from breaking news. I thought it was breaking because The Factor tonight is partially due to our persistence at FR. That's the breaks.
22 posted on 09/18/2003 8:19:05 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
please keep us informed.
23 posted on 09/18/2003 8:25:44 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I may hide, but I never leave!)
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To: netmilsmom; nutmeg
I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. I hope the Fox Fans will do some play by play for the 11:00 Factor. Terri's segment is up next.
24 posted on 09/18/2003 8:28:44 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: netmilsmom
While hubby's attorney is stating that Terri has no consciousness, they are showing footage of Terri acting like a human being, smiling, laughing, looking around... UNBELIEVABLE! I hope Factor viewers noted that.

Big civil rights implications in this case. "Terri has been sentenced to die."

O' Reilly, "Thank you both for coming on."

25 posted on 09/18/2003 8:34:48 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
In my disgust, I wrote and sent the followuing e-mail to Bill ... I have been sending data to him on Terri's court battle, but I failed to send the medical definition of PVS. But he does have a staff, doesn't he?

Bill, your program is touted as a 'No Spin Zone'. Next time you do a segment like the Schiavo one, try to learn enough background so that when a lawyer seeking to euthanize a disabled person spins to you a yarn, you'll know it and stop it cold. Felos mischaracterized Terri's condition as non-cognizant of her surroundings. He was lying to you and the American people and you enabled that deceit. Terri is much more alert than a true PVS. Someone on your staff should have let you know the true defintion of Persistent Vegetative State, before you did the segment and Felos lied to you on screen.

Name and Town

26 posted on 09/18/2003 8:43:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: All
Terri Schindler Schiavo is not in a persistent vegetative state, if one uses the medic al community's definition of that state. Felos is lying through his teeth and this IS a case of calculated euthanasia that Judge Greer is facilitating. Terri has been scheduled by Greer for execution beginning on October 15th, death by dehydration and starvation. This must not be allowed to happen!

I offer the following for any reader unfamiliar with the issues (like Bill O'Reilly!):

A defintion of the persistent vegetative state

The term "persistent vegetative state" was introduced by Jennett and Plum in a 1972 article in the journal Lancet to describe the condition of patients with severe brain damage in whom coma has progressed to a state of "wakefulness without awareness" (795).

According to Dr. Lance Stell of the Department of Internal Medicine and a member of the Ethics Committee at Carolinas Medical Center, Jennett and Plum were particularly interested in a syndrome that seemed to have been made possible by medicine's capacities to keep patients' bodies alive (personal interview). Patients in this vegetative state have no cerebral cortical function, meaning that they are unconscious and unaware, but exhibit sleep-wake cycles with either full or partial hypothalamic and brain stem autonomic functions.

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Coma and Persistent Vegetative State
http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/921394859.html

A coma is a profound or deep state of unconsciousness. The affected individual is alive but is not able to react or respond to life around him/her. Coma may occur as an expected progression or complication of an underlying illness, or as a result of an event such as head trauma.

A persistent vegetative state, which sometimes follows a coma, refers to a condition in which individuals have lost cognitive neurological function and awareness of the environment but retain noncognitive function and a perserved sleep-wake cycle.

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Medical Aspects of the Persistent Vegetative State— First of Two Parts
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/330/21/1499

The Multi-Society Task Force on PVS

ABSTRACT

This consensus statement of the Multi-Society Task Force summarizes current knowledge of the medical aspects of the persistent vegetative state in adults and children.

The vegetative state is a clinical condition of complete unawareness of the self and the environment, accompanied by sleep-wake cycles, with either complete or partial preservation of hypothalamic and brain-stem autonomic functions. In addition, patients in a vegetative state show no evidence of sustained, reproducible, purposeful, or voluntary behavioral responses to visual, auditory, tactile, or noxious stimuli; show no evidence of language comprehension or expression; have bowel and bladder incontinence; and have variably preserved cranial-nerve and spinal reflexes. We define persistent vegetative state as a vegetative state present one month after acute traumatic or nontraumatic brain injury or lasting for at least one month in patients with degenerative or metabolic disorders or developmental malformations.

27 posted on 09/18/2003 9:02:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Thank God to those of you that have taken the time to educate themselves regarding this complex case. It is such a relief. Mr. O'Reilly aught to do the same.

family
28 posted on 09/18/2003 9:12:52 PM PDT by alexmyangel
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To: All
Even the medical 'expert' Greer appointed to examine Terri proved that Terri can understand directions and follow them to the best of her non-rehabilitation efforts ability. It was shown on the tape running while O'Reilly fumbled his lines with Felos!

This is a case of a Flordia Judge executing a disabled woman because, in my opinion, her adulterous (and perhaps greedy and abusive) husband wants her dead (ugh, Florida judges playing liberal societal engineering again, right under Jeb Bush's nose no less!).

I wonder, could it be that Flordia is executing Terri in order to set a precident whereby elderly and infirm citizens can routinely be euthanized, rather than the state paying to support their state-deemed useless lives?

Has 'quality of life', 'level of intellectual participation' become the standard by which the right to LIFE will now be adjudicated? This is already the standard by which democrats defend the slaughter of alive prenatal infants, so hold on to your loved ones because the Pubbies in Florida are now allowing (and perhaps facilitating) this to be extended to the elderly and disabled.

29 posted on 09/18/2003 9:14:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
His attorney also referred to Terri as a houseplant at the trial last October. What a sad excuse for a human being that man is. sorry.
30 posted on 09/18/2003 9:14:26 PM PDT by alexmyangel
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To: MHGinTN
We do believe this has a lot to do with money, insurance companies and the right to die movement as a whole.
31 posted on 09/18/2003 9:17:38 PM PDT by alexmyangel
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To: freeparoundtheclock
While hubby's attorney is stating that Terri has no consciousness, they are showing footage of Terri acting like a human being, smiling, laughing, looking around... UNBELIEVABLE! I hope Factor viewers noted that.

Yes, I noticed that as well.

Thanks for bumping this thread... looks like many other FReepers found it in time for O'Reilly's 11pm (ET) rerun. :-)

32 posted on 09/18/2003 10:08:35 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: FL_engineer
oops, I should have said said one of the best providers
to get FoxNews Channel on the cheap is
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$14.07 for FNC for ONE YEAR (after conversion to US dollars)
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33 posted on 09/18/2003 10:18:34 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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Oh my, just bounced back onto this thread to bump it and read the following I wrote ... "I wonder, could it be that Flordia is executing Terri in order to set a precident ..." Uh, it must be time for me to retire for the evening; precident = precedent, sorry folks, for the poor quality.
34 posted on 09/18/2003 10:57:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
O'reilly made me pretty mad tonight. I felt he was cold and uncaring. I sure let him know my feelings.
35 posted on 09/18/2003 11:13:24 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Prayers for Terri Schiavo. Lord, please save Terri Schiavo.)
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To: MHGinTN; kimmie7; Ragtime Cowgirl; pc93; trustandobey; MarMema; windchime
Poor spelling is not a crime here at FR.

BREAKING UPDATE FROM FLORIDA. Please ping the list kimmie7.

1. Today's local paper reported that SEPTEMBER IS PAIN AWARENESS MONTH. (proclaimed by Governor Bush) 2. Governor Bush is thinking about bring back the legislator for a Special Session on a potential business partner for the State of Florida.

ACTIVISM: If you want to help Terri, join us by calling Governor Bush. As long as he's thinking about having a Special Session, MAYBE THE LEGISLATURE COULD LOOK AT THE INEXCUSABLE EXIT PROTOCOLS, ADULTERY LAWS and if husbands can cheat on their wives and remain their legal guardian and AN EMERGENCY SESSSION FOR TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO! (This is a call & email, fax we need to make to the Governor, today Friday, Sat., Sunday and next week.) THIS MAY BE ANOTHER OPENING FOR US.

JEB FAX #1-850-487-0801, JEB'S PHONE # is on the monster thread at #1753. JEB EMAIL: jebbush@myflorida.com.

36 posted on 09/19/2003 7:01:55 AM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: nutmeg; kimmie7
FYI: Just so you know, Fox fans can join kimmie7's Terri ping list.

I'm so glad Fox ran footage while Attorney Death was spinning in the no spin zone.

37 posted on 09/19/2003 7:05:15 AM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
I'm so glad Fox ran footage while Attorney Death was spinning in the no spin zone.

Me, too..."a picture is worth a thousand words." (Unless Felos has hypnotized the viewing audience).

38 posted on 09/19/2003 7:31:05 AM PDT by syriacus (Prankin' Al Franken....says he didn't lie to Ashcroft. His letter was only a prank. A Frankenprank?)
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To: FL_engineer
O' Reilly LOVES to yell at Governor Jeb. For some reason, O' Reilly hasn't contacted Jeb Bush about this matter since Jeb wrote to Judge Greer to assign a GAL instead of hubby as the GAL. I'm hoping Jeb calls for a special session on other matters and they could throw in an emergency session while they are all there, FOR TERRI!

Please see my prior post. SEPTEMBER IS PAIN AWARENESS MONTH in Florida. Knowing October 15th is Terri's set day of no food or water, I'm afraid to learn what OCTOBER is designated as. OCTOBER IS DEATH WITHOUT DUE PROCESS MONTH?

39 posted on 09/19/2003 8:18:47 AM PDT by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: alexmyangel
What a sad excuse for a human being that man is. sorry.

Oh I think it's ok to say evil if it is Felos you are referring to. Inhabited by demons, already holding the ticket for the trip down.

40 posted on 09/19/2003 9:08:08 AM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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