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School Makes Girls Wear Trash Bag Skirts
NW Cable News ^ | 09/19/03 | Staff Writer

Posted on 09/19/2003 7:30:29 AM PDT by bedolido

NEW YORK (AP) -- Two Bronx girls reportedly had to wear skirts made of trash bags to class as a punishment for coming to school in jeans rather than their uniforms.

The sixth-graders at the Bronx Preparatory Charter School were made to wear the bags by principal Marina Bernard Damiba, the Daily News reported Friday.

Damiba called the garbage-bag skirts "Damiba fashions" and said they weren't meant to be humiliating.

"It was more of a fun way to say, 'Listen, guys, wear the uniforms,'" she told the News. "Let's not dwell on something as simple as wearing the uniforms when we have a lot of business to take care of. We have a lot of learning to get done."

Joy Vasquez, whose daughter, 12-year-old Christina Zuniga, was one of the girls who wore the skirts, at first said the punishment was "really wrong," the News said.

But after meeting with Damiba, she told the News that her daughter "got a lesson out of it."

Students at the school are required to wear a polo shirt with the school's logo and khaki, black, gray or navy blue pants or skirts that are at least knee-length.

Copyright 2003 Associated Press. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bag; dresscodes; girls; school; skirts; trash; wear
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1 posted on 09/19/2003 7:30:32 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
I believe it would be the tin-foil underware that would be uncomfortable though.
2 posted on 09/19/2003 7:35:00 AM PDT by Normal4me
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To: bedolido
Mom: "Son, will you take out the trash?"

Boy: "I guess so, if she's pretty and has a nice personality."

3 posted on 09/19/2003 7:36:06 AM PDT by TheBigB (I don't believe in Astrology. We Scorpios are skeptical.)
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To: bedolido
Sheesh, what's the big deal?

I wear plastic pants.

4 posted on 09/19/2003 7:36:11 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Great Googlymoogly!)
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To: bedolido
Let's not dwell on something as simple as wearing the uniforms when we have a lot of business to take care of.

Apparently they don't care about grammar at this school.

5 posted on 09/19/2003 7:36:41 AM PDT by Pest
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To: bedolido
Sounds like a good lesson -

Follow the Rules!
6 posted on 09/19/2003 7:36:48 AM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: bedolido
:::gasp::::
A school that actually enforces a dress code? That doesn't allow 4-inches-below-the-naval jeans?
LOL a 'fitting' punishment--> trash bags! :o)
7 posted on 09/19/2003 7:37:20 AM PDT by b9
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To: Pest
There's no rule prohibiting you from ending a sentence with a preposition.
8 posted on 09/19/2003 7:39:59 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: TheBigB
ROFLM(trash bags)O

(((((so perfect)))))
9 posted on 09/19/2003 7:40:00 AM PDT by b9
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To: bedolido
If it was me, I'd wear trash bags every day.
10 posted on 09/19/2003 7:40:22 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Pest
***Apparently they don't care about grammar at this school.***

According to Winston Churchill, it's okay to end a sentence with a preposition. In fact, when he was criticized for doing so, he said: "This is the sort of errant pedantry up with which I shall not put."
11 posted on 09/19/2003 7:43:10 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: doodlelady
growing up in the 50's and 60's it was common for schools to use humiliation to keep kids in line. I had to wear a ribbon in my hair all day in the 5th grade cause I teased some girls (as I look back on it, it wouldn't been so bad if it was my color. I'm an Autumn).
12 posted on 09/19/2003 7:43:14 AM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: Sloth
There's no rule prohibiting you from ending a sentence with a preposition.

At least none that you're aware ... of. <|:)~

13 posted on 09/19/2003 7:44:20 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Great Googlymoogly!)
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To: doodlelady
Six of us 16 year old Catholic school girls had to wear hairnets for having "messy hair". Would have loved to see the hair of these nuns, hidden under their habits. These nuns were insane. I have naturally curly hair...real tough to work with and it was the late 50's. The other girls had long, straight hair so I couldn't even rationalize the messy thing...Their hair just hung there.
14 posted on 09/19/2003 7:44:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sloth

A Sloth family portrait

15 posted on 09/19/2003 7:45:02 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: bedolido
You mean that back in the 50s and 60s they hurt kids' (GASP) "feelings."
16 posted on 09/19/2003 7:46:18 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: kitkat; Sloth
Ok, Ok. I don't know where I picked that up. See below. :)

Another brilyant mynd distroid by the publik edukashun sistim.

May I end a sentence with a preposition?

Contrary to popular opinion, no rule states that it is incorrect to end a sentence with a preposition. A principle of style, however, declares that one should not end a sentence with a preposition when one has a graceful alternative. As Theodore M. Bernstein says in The Careful Writer (Atheneum: 1968), "It is well to consider that a sentence ending with a preposition is sometimes clumsy, often weak." But Bernstein adds that "a preposition can itself provide strength at the end of a sentence." "This occurs," he says, "when the preposition carries real import and the verb has a rather low charge; in such instances heavy stress . . . falls on the preposition, and idiom declares that it appear at the end."

Bernstein's examples prove the point. How else are we to say, "He didn't know what he was getting into," "I found this tool, but I don't know what it is used for," or "I didn't know what it was all about"? Consider, he says, Shakespeare's "We are such stuff as dreams are made on" and such expressions as: "That is something to guard against," "He is someone you can count on," and "You don't know what I have been through." Bernstein wryly suggests that anyone who calls such expressions wrong will find that he or she "hasn't a leg on which to stand."
17 posted on 09/19/2003 7:47:09 AM PDT by Pest
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To: Pest
There's no rule prohibiting you from ending a sentence with a preposition

I'm just happy is I can get my point out (at my age I have to use viagra-english to get my point out).

18 posted on 09/19/2003 7:47:35 AM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: bedolido
>>>wouldn't have been so bad if it was my color. I'm an autumn<<<
It's too early here LOL You're giving me a sideache! :o)

Well, maybe they were colored trash bags...or maybe white trash?
19 posted on 09/19/2003 7:50:06 AM PDT by b9
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To: bedolido
I'm wondering what would be more disruptive to the "learning atmosphere", jeans or Hefty's?
20 posted on 09/19/2003 7:50:45 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Sloth
There's no rule prohibiting you from ending a sentence with a preposition.

The above sentence ends with "a preposition". There is no rule against that.

21 posted on 09/19/2003 7:52:11 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Wolfie
>>> more disruptive...jeans or Hefty's <<<

depends on which were so low as to show a lovely
plumber's crack.
22 posted on 09/19/2003 7:53:52 AM PDT by b9
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To: martin_fierro
Visiting Southerner: "Scuze me buddy, could you please tell me where the General Store's at?"

*Tight-sphinctered Yankee: "Suh, up heah in the Nawth, we do not end a sentence with a preposition."

Visiting Southerner: "I apologize. Could you please tell me where the General Store's at, a**hole?"

* Just kidding. ;)

23 posted on 09/19/2003 7:54:27 AM PDT by TheBigB
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To: TheBigB
LOLOLOL
Yaw jus too funneh, honneh! :o)
24 posted on 09/19/2003 7:57:22 AM PDT by b9
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To: bedolido
When I was in kindergarten in Michigan in the 70's, if a student was bad, the teacher put a diaper on them and give them a pacifier. She said, "If you're going to act like a baby, then you are going to look like one too."

I wonder if she could get away with that now.
25 posted on 09/19/2003 7:59:44 AM PDT by Pest
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To: Pest
I don't know where I picked that up.

It's a myth originally perpetrated by stuffy Victorian-era English teachers, and propagated by stuffy English teachers ever since. The root of the "rule" is actually from Latin - in Latin, you really can't end a sentence with a preposition. Somewhere along the line, some pedantic putz decided it would be a good idea if such a rule existed in English as well. The trouble is, as the citation in your post notes, that often has the effect of making sentences sound really stupid when they purposefully avoid prepositions at the end. The best rule of thumb is that if one can easily avoid prepositions at the end of sentences in formal or scholarly writing, do so. If they can't be avoided easily, or it's writing or speaking in any context other than the formal or scholarly, don't worry about it.

26 posted on 09/19/2003 8:00:15 AM PDT by general_re (SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Quitting Sarcasm Now Greatly Reduces Serious Risks To Your Health.)
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To: bedolido; doodlelady
Quick..what's the over/under as to when the first lawsuit is filed?
27 posted on 09/19/2003 8:00:46 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Pest
Freshman (at Harvard): "Excuse me, can you tell me where the library is at?"
Senior (in condescending tone): "At Haw-vud, we do not not end our sentences in prepositions."
Freshman: "Very well. Can you tell me where the library is at, a$$hole?"
28 posted on 09/19/2003 8:01:16 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Pest
Oooo...now that IS a bit harsh!
Unless of course it was one of those 'candy' pacifiers.
29 posted on 09/19/2003 8:01:45 AM PDT by b9
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

30 posted on 09/19/2003 8:02:03 AM PDT by mhking (Don't mess in the affairs of dragons; For you are crunchy, and taste great with ketchup...)
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To: bedolido
There was nothing REALLY WRONG about this... had the parents of these girls done their jobs the kids would not have showed up in JEANS in the first place! Your kid breaks the rules, faces humiliation for it, and somehow its someone elses fault? Please!

I think these girls parents need to GROW UP!
31 posted on 09/19/2003 8:03:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: bedolido


Oh, the horror...
32 posted on 09/19/2003 8:19:03 AM PDT by itzmygun (www.wackoemailer.com)
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To: bedolido
We had a teacher who, if he caught anyone chewing gum in class, would make the student put it on their nose for one period. Result? Kids didn't chew gum in class.

I admire this principal for having the guts to enforce the rules about uniforms. If she gives in, the students are in control, and they'd all be wearing jeans and who knows what else.

I went to a Catholic grade school (1950s-1960s) and had to wear a uniform every day. Once we reached the 6th grade, we were allowed to wear different colors of sweaters instead of the standard navy blue. Still had to wear the dreaded beanies in church though. I didn't wear navy for years after I graduated, but eventually I got over it. I'm glad they made us wear uniforms; I believe I got a better education because of it.

P.S. I'm an Autumn too! :o)

33 posted on 09/19/2003 8:21:05 AM PDT by arasina (Hillary thinks being shrill is the same thing as standing up for principle.)
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To: bedolido
I think it was fourth grade. I didn't want to eat my ham sandwich, so I stuffed it into a milk carton and threw it away. Someone told on me, and I was forced to fish the carton out of the garbage and I had to eat this mangled sandwich in front of the class. By the '60's, the nuns were not longer smacking knuckles with rulers, they were into psychological warfare.
34 posted on 09/19/2003 8:33:30 AM PDT by Marc Poor
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To: Marc Poor
When I was in third grade I had a teacher that thought you should eat everything on your tray. They served pimento cheese sandwiches that day. I don't eat pimento cheese. The teacher said I had to, I said I'd throw up. She insisted, I threw up, in the full lunch room. I don't believe that particular teacher ever even spoke to me again.
35 posted on 09/19/2003 8:44:37 AM PDT by BabsC
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To: netmilsmom
PING.
36 posted on 09/19/2003 9:08:11 AM PDT by JonathansMommie (Have You Hugged Your FReeper Today?)
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To: itzmygun
Hand me a fork so I can poke my eyes out now.
37 posted on 09/19/2003 9:09:20 AM PDT by JonathansMommie (Have You Hugged Your FReeper Today?)
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To: BabsC
It was part of a vast right-wing conspiracy!! </sarasm> ;)
38 posted on 09/19/2003 9:34:08 AM PDT by 4mycountry (You say I'm a brat like it's a bad thing.)
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To: bedolido
Two Bronx girls reportedly had to wear skirts made of trash bags to class as a punishment for coming to school in jeans rather than their uniforms.

Waaa.

My kids wear uniforms to school as well; should they, or anyone else decide to show up to school without the proper uniform, the child would be taken to the office, the parents would be contacted, and the child would sit until the parent either came to take the child home, or brought the correct clothing.

It is a rule. Plain and simple.
39 posted on 09/19/2003 9:48:44 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull$hit.)
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To: bedolido
Two Bronx girls reportedly had to wear skirts made of trash bags to class as a punishment for coming to school in jeans rather than their uniforms.

Waaa.

My kids wear uniforms to school as well; should they, or anyone else decide to show up to school without the proper uniform, the child would be taken to the office, the parents would be contacted, and the child would sit until the parent either came to take the child home, or brought the correct clothing.

It is a rule. Plain and simple.
40 posted on 09/19/2003 9:48:45 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull$hit.)
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*Smack*

Sorry about the duplicate post; computer hicups.
41 posted on 09/19/2003 9:50:50 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull$hit.)
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To: Sloth
Or as the kid who didn't like his parent's choice of bedtime reading said: "What did you bring that thing I didn't want to be read to out of up for?"
42 posted on 09/19/2003 9:52:49 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
*Smack*
Sorry about the duplicate post; computer hicups.

Yeah I understand. I've had problems with pre-mature E-post-ulation for years. Even thinking about NFL football doesn't help.

43 posted on 09/19/2003 10:42:20 AM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Sounds like the right approach. My kids wore uniforms, too. What a blessing for the whole family. One less thing to dicker over.
44 posted on 09/19/2003 12:31:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: bedolido
I went to a very strict prep school in DC. If you arrived w/o some part of your uniform, there were extra uniform skirts and blouses for you to put on.

Also, if you wore pants under your skirt in the winter because it was cold, you had to stand outside the school and take them off before entering. We had to kneel down and make sure our skirts touched the floor. For those whose skirts were too short (this was in the late 60s when everyone was wearing miniskirts), you got a whack on the rear w/a yardstick and a note to your mom to let down the hem of your skirt.

Complain about trash bags? wimps...

Seriously - either have extra uniforms, send the kids back home to change, or keep them in detention all day if you are sending a message that uniforms must be worn. Some people don't like to hear it, but there are rules and there are consequences for breaking them.
45 posted on 09/19/2003 12:48:09 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: Pest
Let's not dwell on something as simple as wearing the uniforms when we have a lot of business to take care of.

Apparently they don't care about grammar at this school.

Of course, we all know the correct phrase is "a lot of business to attend to."

46 posted on 09/19/2003 12:51:08 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: general_re
I like your response. It wouldn't have helped me w/my mother, tho. When, as a young skull full of mush, I sometimes ended a sentence w/a preposition, my mother (the school teacher) would just look at me and refuse to answer until I had realized my crime and restructured my sentence.

gee, memories...sniff...
47 posted on 09/19/2003 12:51:12 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: Sloth; Pest
Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I am fed!

This is the sort of impertinence up with which I will not put.

-- Winston Churchill
48 posted on 09/19/2003 12:53:58 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: arasina
Still had to wear the dreaded beanies in church though

Oh my! After being traumatized over everything else in 12 years of Catholic education, I had completely forgotten about the beanies!

I wore some version of blue for 12 years. Other than a navy suit when I first started working, I have only just begun wearing blue again. I think a lot of us could use some therapy. : )

49 posted on 09/19/2003 12:54:43 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: radiohead
...my mother (the school teacher)...

You know what they say - ya can't fight City Hall. Personally, I could never persuade my mother that it was okay to say "Susie is going to the movies with Jenny and me" - I think some nun beat "Jenny and I" into her during her Catholic school days. Or maybe she just objected to me going to the movies with Susie and Jenny ;)

50 posted on 09/19/2003 2:56:32 PM PDT by general_re (SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Quitting Sarcasm Now Greatly Reduces Serious Risks To Your Health.)
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