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Copyright infringement complaint from The Onion
Email from The Onion | 09/19/03 | Sean Mills

Posted on 09/19/2003 1:33:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Subject: Copyright infringement

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:27:04 -0400

From: Sean Mills smills@theonion.com

To: webmaster@freerepublic.com

Dear Free Republic,

It has come to our attention that you have published a number of pieces of Onion content at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/onion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-onion/browse

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/583819/posts

This material was published in THE ONION and the images you are presenting are being served by our servers. The material that you are publishing was published without permission of ONION, INC. Further, the material is copyrighted. You have infringed on our copyright and we, therefore, demand that you immediately cease and desist from any further use of the copyrighted material and remove the material from your website. In addition, you may not use the material in any other manner whatsoever.

Please understand that we anticipate your full and immediate cooperation in this matter. Also, please understand that we do not hesitate to enforce our rights in these situations.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Sean Mills


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1 posted on 09/19/2003 1:33:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: All
Please so not post anything from The Onion.

Thanks,

Jim
2 posted on 09/19/2003 1:34:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Darn shame they're limiting their exposure this way. Sigh...
3 posted on 09/19/2003 1:34:50 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (No, Travis McGee didn't pay me to say nice things. Read his book!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Caving so quick?
4 posted on 09/19/2003 1:35:06 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, there goes my patronage of the onion. I used to go theref 2 - 3 times per week.
5 posted on 09/19/2003 1:35:16 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
So, this is satire, right?
6 posted on 09/19/2003 1:36:17 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Lazamataz
There goes your fav threads, eh?
7 posted on 09/19/2003 1:36:26 PM PDT by 4mycountry (You say I'm a brat like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Rodney King
Me, too. I won't go there anymore.
8 posted on 09/19/2003 1:36:39 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: All
I have e-mailed smills@theonion.com, not in a mean way or anything, but just pointing out to him the potential readership he is losing.
9 posted on 09/19/2003 1:37:04 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Jim Robinson; red-dawg; Fiddlstix; RikaStrom; robomatik; ladyinred; error99; Max McGarrity; Gabz; ..
Everyones after a piece of the pie, aren't they?

Hey folks, a request from the man.

10 posted on 09/19/2003 1:37:08 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Phantom Lord
Are you volunteering to pay the damages if the Onion sues?
11 posted on 09/19/2003 1:37:28 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Jim Robinson
Can we post a link to their site/articles?
12 posted on 09/19/2003 1:37:39 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ()
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, I for one have posted several things from The Onion.

This sucks.

13 posted on 09/19/2003 1:38:06 PM PDT by Constitution Day (*Avast! Today be Talk Like a Pirate Day!*)
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To: Jim Robinson
The onion stinks,no tears here;)
14 posted on 09/19/2003 1:38:32 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: B Knotts
I understand their concern, but it's misplaced. It seems that the only Onion pieces that are posted deal with topics frequently discussed here. How many Freepers have been introduced to the site because of the posts, and continue to visit their site because of the initial exposure here?

Darn shame.

15 posted on 09/19/2003 1:38:47 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Constitution Day
How come this isn't under Humor?
16 posted on 09/19/2003 1:39:48 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: mountaineer
Nope. Isnt that what the FR Legal Defense Fund is for?

How long did Jim battle the LA Times and Washington Post and now an email has him cowering?

Virtually everything that starts a thread is copywrited. Soon, FR may consist of nothing buy vanity ramblings.

17 posted on 09/19/2003 1:39:52 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord
"Caving so quick?"

Well, unlike news sources, the Onion is fiction, satirical at that. I suspect that Jim has no choice in this matter, for the sake of FR.

Frankly, I won't miss Onion postings. Too many folks have taken them seriously in the past, causing confusion in those threads.

No problem, Jim!
18 posted on 09/19/2003 1:40:01 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, that makes the nomenclature: LAT/WP/O.
19 posted on 09/19/2003 1:40:02 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Jim Robinson
Not even excerpts?
20 posted on 09/19/2003 1:40:11 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: Fred Mertz
Excellent question!
21 posted on 09/19/2003 1:41:03 PM PDT by Constitution Day (*Avast! Today be Talk Like a Pirate Day!*)
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To: Jim Robinson
lol - no great loss. I've read the onion 2 times in the last year - both times after someone posted an article here or uo.stratics.com.
22 posted on 09/19/2003 1:41:13 PM PDT by Frapster (to whom much is given much is required)
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To: Jim Robinson
I've always wondered about deep linking of images.

The Onion are a bunch of wankers if you ask me.

23 posted on 09/19/2003 1:41:52 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Constitution Day
I agree. FR is how I found out about the Onion. That article about the PETA stormtroopers killing people to save a rabbit was one of the funniest articles ever.
24 posted on 09/19/2003 1:42:35 PM PDT by jern
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To: Constitution Day
Last bunch I would expect of having no sense of humor.
25 posted on 09/19/2003 1:43:13 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (No, Travis McGee didn't pay me to say nice things. Read his book!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Caving so quick?

If there is anything that Jim show's respect for outside politics, it is the hard work of another webmaster. If you recall, even after the hard words and link removal by Matt D, Jim got hot when some guys raided his site and got a story early.

I don't mind posting an excert and a link. The whole copy posting necessary in the Whitewater era was really a factor of the stories disappearing or being revised by higher editors in the left leaning journalism clique, thereby shielding Clinton. The fair use issue is only mandatory when the copy vanishes due to media hegomony.

26 posted on 09/19/2003 1:43:20 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: Jim Robinson
I never did. Whew!
27 posted on 09/19/2003 1:44:00 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Heh!
28 posted on 09/19/2003 1:44:14 PM PDT by Constitution Day (*Avast! Today be Talk Like a Pirate Day!*)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, I have not been loking at the Onion for ages now. Despite the great bit they did right after 9-11, ( "Hijackers Surpised to Fnd Themselves in Hell") they have become increasingly whiny , anti-troops and Anti-America.

Worse yet, they just aren't funny any more.

I don't need their stuff.

BTW, I continue to love Free Republic! Thanks!

Tia

29 posted on 09/19/2003 1:44:38 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: Jim Robinson
Splain me something. They have to pay for bandwidth. And I bet their advertising doesn't cover their expenses. So aren't we SAVING them money by "hosting" the content here on FR?
30 posted on 09/19/2003 1:44:45 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Jim Robinson
The shame here is that the Onion has reliably been a more accurate source of news than either the Washington Post or the L.A. Times.
31 posted on 09/19/2003 1:45:42 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: jern
I also found out about the Onion through FR, back when I was a lurker.

I don't recall the PETA stormtroopers article; I will have to look for it.

32 posted on 09/19/2003 1:45:42 PM PDT by Constitution Day (*Avast! Today be Talk Like a Pirate Day!*)
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To: Jim Robinson
Major bummer.

They have some of the funniest stuff i have ever read.

Have a good weekend, all!
33 posted on 09/19/2003 1:46:01 PM PDT by ctlpdad (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.)
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To: tiamat
they have become increasingly whiny , anti-troops and Anti-America.

Not to mention anti-religious.

34 posted on 09/19/2003 1:47:07 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I have the same question.

Are links still OK?

35 posted on 09/19/2003 1:47:14 PM PDT by steve in DC
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To: AppyPappy
good point.

No doubt the lawyers over there haven't realized that.
36 posted on 09/19/2003 1:47:21 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Constitution Day
http://www.theonion.com/onion3110/petacommandos.html
37 posted on 09/19/2003 1:47:24 PM PDT by jern
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To: Jim Robinson
I agree with JR. One should chose their fights carefully. This could cost money that could better be used elsewhere. And besides, you can always refer to their story if need be.
38 posted on 09/19/2003 1:47:50 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: Rodney King
"Well, there goes my patronage of the onion. I used to go theref 2 - 3 times per week. "

I know I went there everytime I saw an article from them posted here. If it wasn't for the occasional Freeper article, I'd forget about them completely.

39 posted on 09/19/2003 1:48:07 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: MineralMan
"Too many folks have taken them seriously in the past..."

TOO MANY?!??? Are you nuts?!?

Not nearly enough, imo. ;^)
40 posted on 09/19/2003 1:48:57 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Phantom Lord
Yea, I think MineralMan is right, the Fair Use clause that allows us to use news stories here would not apply to the Onion, because all their 'news' items are pure fiction or satire (That's not to say that what's posted in the LA Times isn't also pure fiction, most of the time, or any of Hitlery's books also)
41 posted on 09/19/2003 1:49:19 PM PDT by Bush_Democrat (Now EX-democrat!!)
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To: Constitution Day

THIS MEANS WAR!

42 posted on 09/19/2003 1:50:07 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (No, Travis McGee didn't pay me to say nice things. Read his book!)
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To: Phantom Lord
We conservatives who respect others' property rights should be more consistent (this is not directed at you specifically in any way, PL - just my general observation). A copyright is a form of ownership of certain property, in these cases, written material. I'm not sure why we can't do with the Onion or any publication what we've been instructed to do with WP and LAT articles, namely, post an excerpt and link to the full article. The copyright holders wouldn't object to that.

So we'd have to make one extra mouse click. It's really not that labor-intensive. Yes, Jim battled the WP and LAT - and it cost $$$. Why go through that again? (I can't comment on the legal defense fund. Perhaps someone with knowledge of it should post an accounting).

43 posted on 09/19/2003 1:50:25 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Jim Robinson
OK, it's their call. Pity, though - nearly all their hits from me have been through FR. Now there will be none.
44 posted on 09/19/2003 1:50:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: jern
LMAO! That is an old one. Thanks for the link, I have bookmarked it.
45 posted on 09/19/2003 1:50:37 PM PDT by Constitution Day (*Avast! Today be Talk Like a Pirate Day!*)
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To: Constitution Day
A while back, I posted the one about "Owner of Complete Set of 'Mama's Family' Videos vows Never to Go On Ebay Drunk Again."

A classic.

Dear Sean Mills, we're FANS! Not trying to rip you off, but promote you! Oh well.
46 posted on 09/19/2003 1:51:09 PM PDT by SerpentDove (Each post focus-group tested for maximum wallop.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Seems to me the biggest issue is the posting of images that are still hosted by their servers. That way, they use up the bandwidth, but they don't get the hits for advertisement sales. I can understand their point of view.

You might want to ask how they feel about reposting of article content under fair use, without the Onion-hosted images.
47 posted on 09/19/2003 1:51:25 PM PDT by thoughtomator (It's time for Arnold supporters to go to a LIBERAL and SOCIALIST website - where they belong!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Rodney King; Phantom Lord
Am I to be understandin' these scurvy knaves are accusin' us of web piracy! Of all the nerve, on today of all days!

Ready the grappling hooks, load the cannon. I thinks a boarding party be in order! Arrrrr!


Talk Like A Pirate Day Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985555/posts
48 posted on 09/19/2003 1:51:35 PM PDT by MalcolmS (Post Like A Pirate Day: Sept 19. Arrrr Matey!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Please so not post anything from The Onion.

I never cared much for Onion satires anyway.
Too much potty "humor", irreverent pope bashing, etc. etc.
Very little that's truly creatively funny.
I hope you give them the VDARE treatment instead of allowing excerpts like the LAT/WP.

49 posted on 09/19/2003 1:51:39 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
They were getting less and less humorous anyway.

No great loss really.
50 posted on 09/19/2003 1:51:48 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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