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Grasso's Sin of Success
National Review ^ | Sep 18 | Larry Kudlow

Posted on 09/19/2003 4:01:21 PM PDT by RealEstateEntrepreneur

Grasso’s Sin of Success The NYSE’s now-former CEO was devoured by an anti-market wolfpack.

A kangaroo court of liberal-leaning journalists and Democratic state treasurers charged and convicted former New York Stock Exchange CEO Dick Grasso with an unpardonable sin — success.

This collection of class-envy warriors put such relentless pressure on the NYSE that Grasso was finally forced by his board to resign. Grasso, of course, was the man whose Herculean efforts were behind the reopening of the stock exchange only four business days after the terrorist bombing of downtown New York. But the so-called titans of finance who sit on the NYSE board were so mau-maued by the media and political onslaught that they actually sided against the man who inflicted the first major blow on Osama's terrorism. There was no scandal here. Dick Grasso accepted a big pay package endorsed on two occasions by the NYSE board in return for 35 years of successful service. What is scandalous is that key Big Board officials — like Hank Paulson of Goldman Sachs, Philip Purcell of Morgan Stanley, and William Harrison of JP Morgan Chase — succumbed to the pressure of newspaper headlines and abandoned Grasso.

Not only did Grasso start America's economic recovery immediately after 9/11, he also saved the NYSE from a late-1990s assault by the Nasdaq. At the time, the technology stock market threatened to induce numerous Big Board companies to switch their listings, and at one point cautioned that it might even take over the NYSE. But it was the diminutive son of Italian immigrants who defended NYSE floor brokers and retail investors from a new era of impersonal electronic trading. Some thanks he got: Many of these same floor brokers helped push Grasso over the edge.

Let's be very clear about this: Grasso has done nothing wrong. Nothing, that is, except believe his own board when they offered him a large pay package for his long-term service.

Grasso did not fraudulently cook the books, steal from the corporate cookie jar, lie to federal prosecutors, or engage in insider trading. He is no Worldcom Bernie Ebbers, Enron Kenneth Lay, or Tyco Dennis Kozlowski. In fact, a Grasso-led decision to embark on full compensation disclosure as a way of hastening corporate-governance reform put him in this pickle in the first place.

The announcement of a one-time payment of $140 million probably did the former CEO in. A longer-term smoothing out of his pay plan would have avoided the media killing field. But it was seldom reported that the payment covered 35 years of service, including pension, savings, and other deferred incentives. Discounted properly, this sum comes to roughly $2 million a year over the entire three-decade period Grasso served — a modest amount by Wall Street standards.

The talented Grasso could have been lured away as CEO of another company. That's precisely why the NYSE board re-upped his pay package beginning in 1995 and extended his tenure through 2007. They were rewarding success and loyalty.

In recent years, techie CEOs like Lawrence Ellison of Oracle, John Chambers of Cisco, Scott McNealy of Sun Microsystems, and Irwin Jacobs of Qualcomm received billions of dollars in stock-option-based pay packages. Grasso could have signed on with any of these companies, but he chose to stay with his long-time employer. For that he was devoured by a wolfpack of anti-market journalists.

No one really knows what pay is proper for successful management skills. But the example of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange — where 1.5 billion in daily trading of interest-rate, currency, and stock market futures is directly comparable to the NYSE — shows that Grasso's pay was in the right ballpark.

The Merc recently went public, and today it has $900 million of enterprise value with a market cap of $3.1 billion. Merc CEO Jim McNulty receives annual pay and benefits totalling about $1.5 million. But for his longer-term service he owns a one-time grant of stock options now valued at $66 million, according to a Merc spokesperson.

In a piece of bitter irony, NYSE board members talked Dick Grasso out of a Big Board public offering in 1999. But Grasso was right — only full privatization will enable the NYSE to resolve all of its pay, disclosure, regulatory, and modernization issues.

Since Grasso resigned without cause, he will take all of his compensation chips off the table. Perhaps he will retire. Maybe he'll run another company. But the big lesson is this: Our free-market American system of entrepreneurial capitalism must never be Europeanized by punishing success or delinking effort from reward. We must never wage war against the smart investments or talented people that made our economy the most inventive and prosperous in all history.

Grasso was one of our successes. He earned his pay. For both his economic value and moral inspiration, he deserved a better fate.

— Mr. Kudlow is CEO of Kudlow & Co.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: grasso; kudlow; nyse

1 posted on 09/19/2003 4:01:21 PM PDT by RealEstateEntrepreneur
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To: RealEstateEntrepreneur
$140 million dollars. Many people are asking: who got billed to give this man that obscene amount of money? Who ultimately paid the tab? I doubt that the tens of thousands of investors and those who lost their 401-Ks and savings during this market mess when stocks were manipulated, financial advisers were being bribed and accounting houses were cooking corporate books are going to shed crocodile tears over Grasso.
--Raoul
2 posted on 09/19/2003 4:12:02 PM PDT by RDangerfield
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To: RDangerfield
Hey idiot, it was deferred salary...or in simple terms that you can understand...money he had already earned.


3 posted on 09/19/2003 4:21:49 PM PDT by Gringo1 (Some days you are the pidgeon....and other days the statue.)
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To: RDangerfield
Many people are asking: who got billed The same people that pay Michael Jordan $40M a year, to Jay Leno $30M a year, to an average anchor person on TV $3-7M.

Talent costs money to attract, and leading an institution such as NYSE requires talent. Grasso was SUPERB in doing that and has succeeded by objective measures. Assault on him is made by the same leftists that have been dismantling American institutions for the last 50 years. They are successful because our population is uneducated and ignorant, as manifested by the fact that even the self-proclaimed conservatives are anti-corporate.

Who ultimately paid the tab? The same people who pay YOUR salary. What is so mysterious to you?

Just like you, Grasso was HIRED. His salary, just as yours, is an expense that reduces profits. This expense is covered by the revenue that the organization gets from its customers --- people and firms that trade stocks.

The only difference between you and him is the amount: you do not get $40/year like M. Jordan (I presume). Why? 'Cause you are not Michael Jordan (you know what I mean). Well, you are no Grasso either.

In any event, you should not be mystified: it's just a salary.

I doubt that the tens of thousands of investors and those who lost their 401-Ks and savings during this market

You are wrong. There is and was not market mess. There were some companies, in which management committed fraud. Indeed, tens of thousands of investors --- their employees mostly --- have lost their savings.

This has nothing to do with the stock market, nor with the NYSE in particular.

mess when stocks were manipulated, Stocks were not manipulated. Read up.

financial advisers were being bribed and accounting houses were cooking corporate books

Again, you are defaming tens of thousands of honest workers. This is false.

Just like among janitors and technicians, programmers and engineers, there are some that are dishonest in the corporate world. I believe that we have less scrupulous management now because our culture has lost respect for civility and age-old American virtues. Managers are selected from that pool, and the pool is worse (in terms of morals) than 50 years ago.

Nevertheless, we are still talking about a small minority. Most work hard and do their utmost best to create wealth for the shareholders.

are going to shed crocodile tears over Grasso.

My tears for Grasso are not crocodile: their real. I see a classic success story -- the kind in which we pride ourselves usually. Not a privileged kid at all, Grasso started as a clerk. He rose by hard work, tenacity, and talent. This amount he got for ten years of work. Are you telling me this is too much if you consider that a moron Adam Sandler received this much for four movies that tool 25 weeks to shoot? Incidentally, how many newspaper articles have you read calling Adam Sandler, Jay Leno, or Michael Jordan "fat cats?" How many are outraged and call their incomes "obscene?" For crying out loud: Jay Leno tells penis and flatulence jokes; corporate managers create jobs and wealth.

As I said, it is very unfortunate that even conservatives are ignorant about the functioning of our institutions. They fall prey to the leftist media that agitates them to be angry at "corporations" -- the bastion and the last battleground of capitalism.

4 posted on 09/19/2003 4:38:17 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
Let me start by saying grasso pushed for the election of albright, mccall, and pinnetta to the board. Next he gave big bucks to the rainbow coalition and jesse from funds of the NYSE. Finally for a man who started as a clerk he called the people who work on the sixth floor of the exchange his underlings..yuuck. Grasso was on the compensation board of computer assossiates, who gave wang a billion dollars. What he got in compensation was admitted by the board of directors as obscene, yet they agreed to it in the first place. They are just as much at fault. I hope you realize the seat holders of the NYSE own the exchange.
5 posted on 09/19/2003 4:57:54 PM PDT by DWC
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To: RealEstateEntrepreneur
The talented Grasso could have been lured away as CEO of another company. That's precisely why the NYSE board re-upped his pay package beginning in 1995 and extended his tenure through 2007.......



What garbage. No one else would have paid him 140 million. He's not worth 20 milion. This is self serving financial insider nonsense. 140 million payday confirms for small investors that they are chumps for the guys who skim their 5% for running the gaming tables of the NYSE.
6 posted on 09/19/2003 5:02:54 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: DWC
What he got in compensation was admitted by the board of directors as obscene ..........

How much say did this gonif have in picking board members of the New York Stock Exchange? The same board members who rubber stamped this 140mil payout?
7 posted on 09/19/2003 5:05:09 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: RealEstateEntrepreneur
Comparing Grasso's pay to that of a corporate CEO is a bit over the top. Grasso assumed no risks whatsoever -- he served as the "CEO" of what was little more than a regulating agency.

What makes this compensation package preposterous was that it was provided to him by a board of directors comprised of some of the very people that this board was intended to oversee!

8 posted on 09/19/2003 5:39:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("To freedom, Alberta, horses . . . and women!")
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To: dennisw
As chairman he set up the board and the compensation committe. Yet he denied that he told them what to do. The board answered by telling the members that they didn't realize their mistake.
9 posted on 09/19/2003 5:47:40 PM PDT by DWC
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To: DWC
Let me start by saying grasso pushed for the election of albright, mccall, and pinnetta to the board. So what?

Ig you are a conservative, stand on principles. I abhore Grasso's political views, and have questions about some of the measures he instituted. You further pointed (alleged) a character flaw: a man who started as a clerk he called the people who work on the sixth floor of the exchange his underlings..yuuck.

If ture, yuck indeed.

The managers are paid for their services and not their views or saintliness. My point was that he worked for the money, and the money is made look unreasonable by the media that exploits the ingorance and envy of the masses. You said nothing that relates to that.

the board of directors as obscene, Forgive but this is silly: they are throwing a bone (Grasso) to angry dogs (masses) --- of course that is what the'll say.

I hope you realize the seat holders of the NYSE own the exchange. Yes. This too is irrelevant to the issue.

10 posted on 09/19/2003 5:47:47 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: DWC
Many thanks for the info. So Richard Grasso has a cozy relationship with the board he helped appoint. That approved his thievery.
11 posted on 09/19/2003 5:57:13 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: TopQuark
Come on. The fix was in ...read post 9. You think such thievery helps the public image of the NYSE? F' Grasso and his cabal. Now I'm double glad my money earns interest and isn't skimmed off by the scum who run the exchange.
12 posted on 09/19/2003 6:01:25 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: RealEstateEntrepreneur
The jihad against the market all started in 1994 when Vanderbilt professor William Christie and Ohio State Professor Paul Schultz published their paper about a lack of odd 1/8 spreads on the Nasdaq. While it led to an investigation and settlement with the DOJ, and did flush out a few rats from the system, it was wrong. It didn't take into account the diferences in the risk profile between an auction based market and a dealer market. The settlement was a 'go away and let us get back to business move'. It has been a feeding frenzy of envy and class warfare ever since, and the true 'fat-rats' escaped mostly unscathed.
13 posted on 09/19/2003 6:49:06 PM PDT by StriperSniper (The slippery slope is getting steeper.)
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To: TopQuark
Thanks for the analysis.
14 posted on 09/19/2003 6:49:16 PM PDT by kdf1
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To: dennisw
F' Grasso and his cabal.

Fine, Dennis. It's none of my business whom people choose as their sexual partners.

But I hate to disappoint you:

Now I'm double glad my money earns interest and isn't skimmed off by the scum who run the exchange.

You don't know how that intereset comes about: some of it may be going through NYSE, in which case you are still paying commision.

Shana Tova. I hope you'll have a good year.

15 posted on 09/19/2003 7:31:08 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: kdf1
My pleasure. Thanks for reading it and for your kind words.
16 posted on 09/19/2003 8:29:20 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
Seat holders own the exchange and now will intervene and clean up the mess. That is relevant, also by being head of a not for profit organization he had no pressure to produce revenues. Therefore he made money, but did not earn it that is also the issue. What I am trying explain to you is heads of major corporations have bottom lines and if the company doesn't make money they are out. That is capitalism, not grasso's thievery.
17 posted on 09/19/2003 9:43:12 PM PDT by DWC
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To: DWC
Therefore he made money, but did not earn it that is also the issue.

The measure of perfomance may or may not be revenue. The measure of performance on that exchange is, and always has been, the price of a seat. Another is the number of companies listed (since it is related to teh volume and hence reveues of the members). Both skyocketed under Grasso.

You speak in haste and your wording is unjustifiably strong. This does not help your argument and seriously damages the credibility. Certainly, by calling Grasso a thief you only reveal envy as well as your ability to defame without reservations.

18 posted on 09/19/2003 9:49:39 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: DWC
I forgot to mention. Grasso introduced the media to the floor of the NYSE, and used the media for his best interest. When someone from within his organization leaked it to the press the jig was up. Without the leak no one would have known, once again he paid the ultimate price for his own greed. Nothing would have been disclosed in a not for profit organization, and he would have walked away with it all.
19 posted on 09/19/2003 9:50:08 PM PDT by DWC
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To: TopQuark
Volume did grow because of grasso , if you noticed volume has slowed down from lack of trades. check it out. I am not envious, since I work on the exchange and am quite comfortable. I just want the exchange to get its act together. You apparrently have no idea what goes on there.
20 posted on 09/19/2003 9:56:15 PM PDT by DWC
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To: TopQuark
Grasso had nothing to do with volume it just happened during his time.
21 posted on 09/19/2003 9:58:25 PM PDT by DWC
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To: DWC
I just want the exchange to get its act together.

OK, we are on common ground. If you work on NYSE, I am sure that you have specific things that you want improved. You may also have serious disagrements with certain actions Grasso took (even I do, and I do not work there).

In this world it matters, however, is not only what you do but also for what reason yo do it, as well the consequences thereof. I objected to the reasons you gave (and I still stand by my previous statements: as stated they were false). I objected also to your calling someone a thief so easily.

More importantly, however, you may be persuing an altogether different objective, but by your tactic and your choice of words you aligned yourself with the leftists.

Now that you have stated your objective, I have no problem with that. But you may want consider the unintended consequences of your choices.

Best of luck to you in your work and otherwise.

P.S. I am, I admit, nervous when people mess with an instutution like NYSE: it has done a marvelous job over the centuries, and tinkering with what has worked well may create more problems than benefits.

22 posted on 09/19/2003 10:31:01 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: RealEstateEntrepreneur

23 posted on 09/19/2003 10:43:22 PM PDT by montag813
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To: RDangerfield
$140 million dollars. Many people are asking: who got billed to give this man that obscene amount of money?

I am a bond trader $140 million is nothing. Chump change. I trade 3 times that amount every single day. Schwarzenegger made $30 million + a cut of the gross for 7 weeks work on T3. 7 freakin weeks! I despise Grasso for his left-wing views. And I am overjoyed that his remarkable tin ear cost him big here. But his compensation is well in line with comparable corporate execs and WAY below that for atheletesm celebrities, and Katie Couric in particular, whom I believe is now making $70 million per year.

24 posted on 09/19/2003 10:50:14 PM PDT by montag813
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To: dennisw
What garbage. No one else would have paid him 140 million. He's not worth 20 milion. This is self serving financial insider nonsense. 140 million payday confirms for small investors that they are chumps for the guys who skim their 5% for running the gaming tables of the NYSE.

dennisw- As Kudlow noted, the head of the Chicago Merc, which is dwarfed in size by the NYSE, pocketed $66 million worth of stock options, in addition to a $1.5 million annual salary. Proportionately, Grasso should have had nearly a billion in stock/options. He IS worth it. MANY companies would have gladly paid him well over $20 million per year. The (retiring) Chairman of Citigroup made something like $125 million last year alone.

25 posted on 09/19/2003 10:58:14 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813
Right on dude. Investors = chumps is Grasso's religion. Yours too. Compensation is way out of line and you know darn well it wasn't like this 20 years ago. R Grasso is no genius. Hundreds could have done what he did. The boom in stocks since 1983 made him look good


It's all about mad greed and overcompensation while the average American slides backwards. Same for the corportate poohbahs you cite.
26 posted on 09/20/2003 4:34:50 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: TopQuark
Since I went to bed after my last post to you, I just got your message back this morning. What I am trying to explain to you is grasso did tinker with the NYSE. Not only did he try to eliminate the basic system by trying to eliminate the individual broker, but he set a system of payment for himself and some of his underlings to receive cash bonuses whenever the exchange executed the order as opposed to the individual broker. By siding with grasso you are in fact defending the left by destroying the basic system. Do you understand? No other chairman has ever received the exorbitant amount of cash bonus from the exchange like grasso. Am I getting through? I've been on the exchange for thirty years, this was absurd. The directors are going down next. New directors who want this institution to become strong again will replace them. I appreciate the correspondence you had with me.
27 posted on 09/20/2003 9:06:30 AM PDT by DWC
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To: TopQuark
Just as an aside when I first started working on the exchange seats sold for as much as 400,000 dollars, but a subway ride went for twenty cents. Now the subway ride costs two dollars, seats sell for 1,850,000 dollars. It has fallen behind inflation.
28 posted on 09/20/2003 9:12:14 AM PDT by DWC
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To: DWC
Not only did he try to eliminate the basic system by trying to eliminate the individual broker, but he set a system of payment for himself and some of his underlings to receive cash bonuses whenever the exchange executed the order as opposed to the individual broker.

I have a SERIOUS problem with that. And with the fact that the board, which is now sacrificing Grasso to protect itself, approved this scheme. Thank you for letting me know.

29 posted on 09/20/2003 10:10:39 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: DWC
By siding with grasso you are in fact defending the left by destroying the basic system.

I never sided with Grasso --- side with principles. Grasso is attacked by the massed not for the reasons you mentioned but out of shear envy and as part of the leftis agenda. It does not matter for them whether it's Grasso or Jack Welsh, or Gerstner: you are wealthy --- I hate you. That is what I spoke about.

As I said earlier, I did not know that things instituted by Grasso were that, let's say, questionable. I still have a (unaslwered) question about what was he doing meeting with Colombian underworld. I appreciate your telling me some new information and assure you I was not siding with Grasso.

30 posted on 09/20/2003 10:15:17 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: DWC
seats sell for 1,850,000 dollars. It has fallen behind inflation.

I know. That was inevitable as a result of (i) technological innovations, and (ii) NASDAQ formation, which happened at about the time you mentioned.

But the price of a seat did beat inflation handsomely during Grasso's reign, didn't it? Is my info wrong on that?

31 posted on 09/20/2003 10:19:33 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: dennisw
There ia a name for all this: good ole boy network.
32 posted on 09/20/2003 10:22:41 AM PDT by ampat
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To: TopQuark
The price of a seat moved up dramatically because owners of the seats could lease it at 350,000 dollars a year. Now the owners can only lease the seats at 205,000 dollars a year. That is because the technology evaporated the business, grasso didn't care. He knew he would get his money. The owners are shocked and appalled. As I said things will change, hopefully for the better. I haven't even started on grasso's reign of terror. If you want to I could discuss that.
33 posted on 09/20/2003 12:03:09 PM PDT by DWC
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To: DWC
If you want to I could discuss that.

I would definitely appreciate learning any and all facts about him that you care to describe.

34 posted on 09/20/2003 8:32:31 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
Grasso started as a clerk with no college education on the NYSE. He then went upstairs away from the trading floor to learn the intricacies of upstairs management. However he did it, I was amazed to see him move to upper management. Eventually being the number one man, he solidified his position by aligning people as directors who protected him. Meanwhile the stock market was starting to go crazy, no one on the trading floor was concerned. Only few noticed some discrepancies by some individual floor traders, they eventually were caught. But not surveilance of the NYSE, it was federal and state investigaors who were looking for a drug ring and found illegal trading with a particular small brokerage firm. This infuriated grasso and his people even though they had an inkling of the problem all along.

Grasso's people went on witch hunt. Every individual floor broker was brought before the exchange and interagated, costing many a floor broker a ton of money on lawyers. We were all guilty until proven innocent. It turned out to be a small group of brokers who were suspended and the rest went on our way to get things back to normal. Then grasso's people attacked the specialist, some also got suspended. Meanwhile he's pocketing and setting up his retirement package. There are some on the floor who think he helped the exchange, but most are very bitter about him.

You see on the trading floor your word is your bond. If one trades on the floor under false pretenses, he or she will get a bad reputation. No one will ever trust a trade with them again. I can't trust grasso again.
35 posted on 09/21/2003 8:40:12 AM PDT by DWC
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To: dennisw
Right on dude. Investors = chumps is Grasso's religion. Yours too.

I am surprised you would use such language after all we've been through, dennis. You know me better than that. I don't think Grasso is a genius and never said so. I agree he benefited along with a great market upleg. I actually despise him.

But your assertion that he would never be paid $20 million by any company had to be refuted because it is simply untrue. He could have named his price + options at any number of Fortune 100 companies. This is indisputable, whether you like it or not.

36 posted on 09/21/2003 10:40:22 AM PDT by montag813
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To: DWC
I can't trust grasso again.

I certainly understand that. Frankly, I don't trust people that climb so fast anyway... but that's another matter.

DWC, I am sorry to hear about that incident, and I hope it did not affect you very much. But, at the same time and with all due respect, that hardly qualifies as "reign of terror" as you described it. He played a heavy --- too heavy for the circumstances, perhaps --- that happens in corporate America all the time. Managers have limited time and often are not "people's" types. That happens all the time: someone is fired and, in retrospect, he could've been transferred, etc. In this case if he underplayed his hand, he'd be accused of not policing the exchange properly. And, just because trust is everything there, measures had to be harsh and quick. Perhaps, in doing so, he went too far. Yet, this one incident does not qualify as "reign" of terror --- in my opinion.

37 posted on 09/23/2003 7:17:06 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
I have to tell you that it's now known that the lawyer who handled all of grasso's perks from the exchange was also his own personnel lawyer. By the way the reign of terror did not effect me, I was shown to be honest with all my trading. But as an exchange member I was not adamant enough about voicing the deceitfulness of this man. It won't happen again.
38 posted on 09/24/2003 6:34:20 PM PDT by DWC
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