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54: No on 54 Union Thugs Assault Pro-54 Females at Davis/Gore Rally, Los Angeles
Yes on Proposition 54 ^ | 09-19-03 | Justin Jones

Posted on 09/19/2003 7:50:10 PM PDT by Alia

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To: CounterCounterCulture
Never underestimate the power of intimidation. And the union thugs usually get away with it, even with cameras rolling. Just ask Don and Teri Adams.

I agree. I learned a number of years back -- you call the police. The police go investigate. The creep says it never "happened".. -- the assaulted party has to locate funds to hire an attorney, whereas the goon gets to use union "pals" for his defense. Even with the cameras rolling.

101 posted on 09/21/2003 1:19:08 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Missouri
I wouldn't be surprised if Boeing wanted to move out of CA, too. There are penalties, however. Especially for a company like boeing. Right now, somewhere near LA? A company that had fled the state -- has to come back and pay billions of dollars in "environmental damage". Did the firm do the damage. Nope. Nonetheless "the guilty" must pay. It's quite a racket going on here in CA.
102 posted on 09/21/2003 1:21:12 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: truthkeeper
Truthkeeper? I'm not real clear on the "pinging" thing. Do I write "ping" and then enter addys? Thanks for your help.
103 posted on 09/21/2003 1:21:55 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: xm177e2
Bringing weapons or doing anything illegal will only bias the cops against you. The proper way to handle a situation like that is to get it on videotape, and hold your hands in front of you, palms out, with the underside of your forearm facing the attacker. Cringe and let them hit you. Do not resist. It will be clear to witnesses what happened, and you will have medical evidence that you were not the aggressor (wounds on the underside of the forearm are consistent with someone cringing in a defensive position, not attacking). Obviously, this advice only applies if you think your life is in no danger.

Having been through a few of these tussles, I do understand what you are saying; and I do understand the point. However, it is usually instinct that kicks in -- to protect one's body from assault. One of the nastier tricks I've seen goon squads do, especially when hands are busy with picket/poster signs -- knees to the groins of males. So, wear a sports cup. I also think a friendly videographer should be wearing a t-shirt in line with those who "might" be doing the assaulting. Why? I've seen friendly videographer knocked down first, before the assaults begin. In the rush of adrenalin, assaultors will note "friendly" t-shirt message, as a rule -- and therefore, photos, videos can at least stand a better chance of being actually useful. Allied friendly women protestors should feel absolutely no compunctions to landing a swift knee to the groin of an assaultor.

You are right about going in armed for self-defense; about how it might look on anyone's photo/video shoot. But I do not think it useful or productive to simply encourage people to go in unaware that they might be used as someone's political punching bag. And to simply "take it". If it is merely an imitidation act going on, then your counsel here is absolutely valid and the right way. However...

The truth of the matter is -- assaultors generally do not go for the "star attraction" -- they tend to pick off those around the "star attraction". It's a public display of "intimidation" and implied threat of what they'll do to anyone who supports this known "celebrity/activist".

--if the attackers are threatening your life, you should not hesitate to do whatever you can to stop them.

And some of the advice given above in this thread is very useful for exactly this reason. Anyone besides me remember "Mad Money" in the purse or sachel?

104 posted on 09/21/2003 1:32:50 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: markman46
and to think calif use to be a "right to work" state now it's an "at will" and public employees union state.

I do know what you mean. However, the trick is in the phrase "right to work". That's socialist lingo. There is NO such thing as a right to work in our Constitution, is there? Right to work became the Union Haymill. Not a right. But rather, one cannot work WITHout the mark of the Union plastered on their forehead....

105 posted on 09/21/2003 1:35:09 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: pke
More racism under the liberal guise of anti-racism

yes, sadly.. you are right.

106 posted on 09/21/2003 1:36:40 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Kennesaw, Georgia. Still hasn't experienced much crime at all.
107 posted on 09/21/2003 1:42:43 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: freekitty
Freekitty? I've been thinking about how to answer your post. And I think I've got an answer, now. A pal sent me a story at a link: http://www.larknews.com/september15_2003/secondary_deaf.php?page=1

Harvard forcing homeschoolers to 'Fit In'.

It's about segregating homeschoolers cuz they can't fit in! Anyway the site is a spoof. I don't like the site at all. Why? Articles like these, POISON THE WELL. What do I mean by this phrase?

Poisoning the Well: tainting a story so that when it comes out, nobody believes it, pays attention to it, or considers it "old news" not worthy of paying attention to. Pretty effective technique; used a lot now a days. Clintons perfected the art 'Let''s Just Move On" -- after their calculated leaks.

After spoofs like this go-on-line; stories that really do happen like the persecuted homeschooling family in Massachusetts, or families elsewhere? Folks hearing it will think it's all a big spoof too.

Again, it was the Clinton's who perfected this political artform, and brought it into everyday use. So yes, I blame the Clinton's too.

As we near the Presidential election, I expect to see a great many more "poison the well" stories by liberals. So that when real awful things are done to others, or happen; everyone ignores or plays it down.

108 posted on 09/21/2003 1:48:43 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: freekitty
Freekitty? I've been thinking about how to answer your post. And I think I've got an answer, now. A pal sent me a story at a link: http://www.larknews.com/september15_2003/secondary_deaf.php?page=1

Harvard forcing homeschoolers to 'Fit In'.

It's about segregating homeschoolers cuz they can't fit in! Anyway the site is a spoof. I don't like the site at all. Why? Articles like these, POISON THE WELL. What do I mean by this phrase?

Poisoning the Well: tainting a story so that when it comes out, nobody believes it, pays attention to it, or considers it "old news" not worthy of paying attention to. Pretty effective technique; used a lot now a days. Clintons perfected the art 'Let''s Just Move On" -- after their calculated leaks.

After spoofs like this go-on-line; stories that really do happen like the persecuted homeschooling family in Massachusetts, or families elsewhere? Folks hearing it will think it's all a big spoof too.

Again, it was the Clinton's who perfected this political artform, and brought it into everyday use. So yes, I blame the Clinton's too.

As we near the Presidential election, I expect to see a great many more "poison the well" stories by liberals. So that when real awful things are done to others, or happen; everyone ignores or plays it down.

109 posted on 09/21/2003 1:49:19 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: freekitty
Freekitty? I've been thinking about how to answer your post. And I think I've got an answer, now. A pal sent me a story at a link: http://www.larknews.com/september15_2003/secondary_deaf.php?page=1

Harvard forcing homeschoolers to 'Fit In'.

It's about segregating homeschoolers cuz they can't fit in! Anyway the site is a spoof. I don't like the site at all. Why? Articles like these, POISON THE WELL. What do I mean by this phrase?

Poisoning the Well: tainting a story so that when it comes out, nobody believes it, pays attention to it, or considers it "old news" not worthy of paying attention to. Pretty effective technique; used a lot now a days. Clintons perfected the art 'Let''s Just Move On" -- after their calculated leaks.

After spoofs like this go-on-line; stories that really do happen like the persecuted homeschooling family in Massachusetts, or families elsewhere? Folks hearing it will think it's all a big spoof too.

Again, it was the Clinton's who perfected this political artform, and brought it into everyday use. So yes, I blame the Clinton's too.

As we near the Presidential election, I expect to see a great many more "poison the well" stories by liberals. So that when real awful things are done to others, or happen; everyone ignores or plays it down.

110 posted on 09/21/2003 1:49:25 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: freekitty
Freekitty? I've been thinking about how to answer your post. And I think I've got an answer, now. A pal sent me a story at a link: http://www.larknews.com/september15_2003/secondary_deaf.php?page=1

Harvard forcing homeschoolers to 'Fit In'.

It's about segregating homeschoolers cuz they can't fit in! Anyway the site is a spoof. I don't like the site at all. Why? Articles like these, POISON THE WELL. What do I mean by this phrase?

Poisoning the Well: tainting a story so that when it comes out, nobody believes it, pays attention to it, or considers it "old news" not worthy of paying attention to. Pretty effective technique; used a lot now a days. Clintons perfected the art 'Let''s Just Move On" -- after their calculated leaks.

After spoofs like this go-on-line; stories that really do happen like the persecuted homeschooling family in Massachusetts, or families elsewhere? Folks hearing it will think it's all a big spoof too.

Again, it was the Clinton's who perfected this political artform, and brought it into everyday use. So yes, I blame the Clinton's too.

As we near the Presidential election, I expect to see a great many more "poison the well" stories by liberals. So that when real awful things are done to others, or happen; everyone ignores or plays it down.

111 posted on 09/21/2003 1:50:13 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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We've got to invite some girls like this to rallies.

Give the thugs a nice surprise.
112 posted on 09/21/2003 1:50:42 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: meyer
hmmm... I've been trying to get my hands on a particular flashlight a pal showed me a couple years back. Tiny little thing. He told me to turn it on and look "real quick" into the light.

I did.

Blinding, and immediate crashing headache that lasted quite a while. He laughed. I wanted revenge.

113 posted on 09/21/2003 1:54:48 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Alia
Representatives of the media, including the Los Angeles Times, NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN were present, but it’s unclear how much of the attack they witnessed.

Ah, it's good to see the news media is still on the ball as always.

ABC: Gee, I didnt see anything. Did you see anything?
NBC: See what?
CBS: What was I supposed to see? Did I miss anything?
LA Times: I have no clue. Did something happen?
CNN: Got me, pal. My camera malfunctioned and I was in the truck trying to fix it.
ABC: You know something? My camera failed to work too.
NBC: That's a coincidence. So did mine.
CBS" Hey! Mine too! Darn camera wouldn't work! What's up with that?
LA Times: What's up with what? I didn't see anything. Did anyone see anything?
NBC: See what?

114 posted on 09/21/2003 2:50:46 AM PDT by lowbridge (As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly. -Mr. Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati)
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To: Alia
Yes, just put the screenname(s) in the "To" line (separated by semi-colons). Then write "ping" in the "Your Reply" space. The people you "pinged" will be notified of your comment.
115 posted on 09/21/2003 7:09:09 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: Alia
Are there pictures of the damage done to their faces in this savage attack? Those are more potent than words alone.

What is meant by "union shirts"? Did they have the name and local of the union?

116 posted on 09/21/2003 7:30:17 AM PDT by per loin
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117 posted on 09/21/2003 7:42:27 AM PDT by autoresponder (under construction)
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To: Alia
It's quite a racket going on here in CA

I believe you are right. I could only imagine what it will take to straighten it out.

118 posted on 09/21/2003 10:18:08 AM PDT by Missouri
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To: paul51
'Fraid not. Would you like me to bend over while I'm at it? If this is your approach, you might as well stay home with the shutters drawn and let someone else take care of the dirty work.

Like I said, this is the political approach to a violent problem. If they are going to seriously hurt you, do whatever you need to do to stop them. This is only for show, if you have cameras and witnesses. Otherwise, fight back.

119 posted on 09/21/2003 1:05:11 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Alia
ok what I meant by right to work is NOT have to join a union to work, in other words work any place you want. I know all about having to join a union to work happened to me in 1980 when I moved to minnesota, I did not have a option, either I joined the union or not work.
120 posted on 09/21/2003 4:25:57 PM PDT by markman46
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To: markman46
ok what I meant by right to work is NOT have to join a union to work

Thank you for clarifying. It sounds then, by your definition, that the union mobs already run the state, eh?

121 posted on 09/21/2003 9:49:59 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Missouri
I believe you are right. I could only imagine what it will take to straighten it out

It's going to take people like Freepers, solid people throughout every single institution to stand up against the thugs. Some people avoid standing their ground. In some cases, it is understandable, life has so many variables. But what I see far too often is the "magic pill" mentality -- it's a state of arrested adolescent emotionalism. That's the hardest part of restoring sanity, reasonableness and the rule of law -- the me, mine, and me mentality.

122 posted on 09/21/2003 9:53:08 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: El Cid
You would appreciate the ministry Answers in Genesis then...
123 posted on 09/21/2003 9:53:08 PM PDT by cyborg (member in good standing of the Tinfoil Hat Society)
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To: per loin
I haven't seen any pictures, yet. And the union shirts obviously did not have "union #xxx" on them, as most union shirtswearers sport.
124 posted on 09/21/2003 9:53:57 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: lowbridge
Someone posted that NBC showed some clips of the assault. I appreciate your insight; too many years of seeing the media blind leading the audience blind. Yep.
125 posted on 09/21/2003 9:56:40 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Alia
How were they identified as union shirts?
126 posted on 09/21/2003 9:58:06 PM PDT by per loin
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To: per loin
I haven't seen the photos, yet. But I'll betcha!... the t-shirts had the word "UNION" or "UNIONS" on them. :) I'll also betcha, these t-shirts were identical to the shirts being worn by the guys who assaulted Freepers at the Recall rally. Just a hunch, here.
127 posted on 09/21/2003 11:09:44 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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