Patriotic American:
"YOu got taken by someone whom you thought had power and you claim they, therefore, have that power? Get real."
Rather, my ex-wife got taken. As I said, I won sole custody and sole decision-making for my son. As a father in Boulder County I suspect I did something, Sir, that was right. But they system malfunctions sufficiently often that I count that victory as being, in large part, due to luck. Had a different Child Advocate been appointed in my situation, my son's future would perhaps look quite less bright.
"If you're that much an idiot..."
Ad hominem. Irrelevant.
"...you deserve to be suckered."
Is it your considered argument, Sir, that those who are less educated or have less resources,
deserve to be trampled underfoot by the force of the State?
"You are a bitter young lad with nothing to go on."
Bitter? I
won my case, Sir. If there is bitterness, it stems from the brutality I have
seen them do to others. And I care sufficiently about my community, and my people, to say that it is
wrong and must be rectified.
An unjust society is intolerable.
"Don't blame a system when you don't even understand the basics of that system."
It should be quite clear, Sir, that it is not the system I oppose - it is the
unaccountable actors within that system that the Party is demanding a means of obtaining redress from.
"You claim to be part of a political party that wants to take back America..."
More specifically, the State of Colorado. The nation quite obviously is a larger, more long-term task.
"...but you don't even understand the basics of our legal system or our form of government."
Speculative
ad hominem. Irrelevant.
"If you did, you couldn't have been suckered. No way, no how."
As I previously noted, I won my case. Sole custody, sole decision-making in a state where joint custody/co-parenting is the expectation.
Did I mention that I was
pro-se in my case? I submit, Sir, that this indicates some small understanding of both our legal system, and our form of government.
"So, your earlier claim is that social workers can and have taken children without court order in the state of Colorado. So, name it. Name the cases. We're waiting.""
Read my posts. Social workers can - and do - take children from homes without orders. Do they obtain orders after the fact? Yes, perhaps they do. An ex-post-facto order. The Party's position is that they should require a warrant to
enter the home to begin with.
An example? See the
Stumbo case in North Carolina. Their predicament is repeated across the nation.
"I'm sure Bill Owens would like to hear how. Unlike you, I'm sure I can get him the message."
Appeal to authority. Irrelevant.
I regret that you consider this topic to be one in which you are sufficiently emotionally invested, so as to resort to commentary such as "idiot" and "sucker". And if, as you appear to subtly represent, you hold official power with ready access to the chief executive of the state - I find that attitude towards those seeking redress of grievances, to be not merely worrying - but also demonstrably symptomatic of the issue before us.
That is unfortunate.
Best regards,
Robert TeesdaleChairman
www.theamericanparty.uschairman@theamericanparty.us
"Read my posts. Social workers can - and do - take children from homes without orders. Do they obtain orders after the fact? Yes, perhaps they do. An ex-post-facto order. The Party's position is that they should require a warrant to enter the home to begin with.
An example? See the Stumbo case in North Carolina. Their predicament is repeated across the nation.
"
You blatantly said in Colorado a social worker does not need a court order to remove a child. Having first hand information and legal knowledge that they do, I challenged you to name a single factual case in Colorado where a social worker took a child without a court order.
So name it. Name the case. Just one.
You are using that statement as a basis for your party in stating that the government is out of control and that your party will reel it back in, so, as an American doing his civic duty, I challenge that statement and your party's use of it.
Name a single case or admit you lied for political gain.
P.S. There isn't a topic on FreeRepublic that a FReeper isn't personally involved with or doesn't have first hand knowledge. That's what mkes this site to powerful: We know because we are.