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"Disagreeing Doesn't Mean We're Un-American" (Commentator slams conservatives on TV) FReep him!
KOMO-TV News 4 ABC ^ | 9/20/03 | Ken Schram

Posted on 09/20/2003 12:53:14 AM PDT by ppaul

SEATTLE - So, it's not just me.

Read Joel Connelly's column in Friday's Seattle P-I.

Read Ellen Goodman's column in the Seattle Times Friday.

Or, just give my friend Mikey a call.

Mikey stopped me yesterday to comment on how viciously strident conservative broadcasters have become.

How Limbaugh, Hanity and O'Reilly, for example, figure that if we don't support President Bush in EVERY instance, on EVERY issue, at ALL times, then we are un-American.

That's it's not enough to merely mistrust liberals or moderates, we must disdain them, or we are un-American.

That if we don't let right-wing anally-conservative broadcasters do our thinking; if we don't strictly adhere to their every proclamation, we're un-American.

If we don't march to the beat of KVI's drum -- KVI -- owed by the same folks that own KOMO -- or in cadence with Rupert Murdoch's "Fair and Balanced" FOX band, then by gosh, by gum, by golly, we are un-American.

At one point, Goodman referred to it all as a "political food fight."

Connelly lamented the loss of civil political debate.

But while they keep themselves above the fray, I choose to immerse myself in it and come out swinging.

So, for Mikey, myself and all others who fell so labeled, I have an ALL-AMERICAN answer to the likes of Rush and Sean and Bill: Up yours!

Want to share your thoughts with Ken Schram? You can e-mail him at kenschram@komo4news.com

Link to article and video of this cowardly blowhard's TV commentary HERE.



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How tired and uncreative these leftist reactionaries are!
What a waste of good air time.

1 posted on 09/20/2003 12:53:14 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
How Limbaugh, Hanity and O'Reilly, for example, figure that if we don't support President Bush in EVERY instance, on EVERY issue, at ALL times, then we are un-American.

What utter crap. All three have criticized Bush on many occasions.

However it is true that many un-American leftists have a pathological hatred for Dubya.

2 posted on 09/20/2003 12:57:42 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: ppaul
They're not un-american because they disgree with Bush. They're Un-American because they blame America first.

It's like I heard a bay hair stylist say once, "Styling hair doesn't make you gay. Having sex with other men makes you gay."
3 posted on 09/20/2003 1:07:57 AM PDT by Bogey78O (The Clinton's have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured/killed -Peach)
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To: Hugin

This bloated poor excuse of a journalist was hyperventilating during his rant. The left is so angry, so filled with hate, that they are now resorting to outrageous lies and character asassination.

Oh, wait! That's not really anything new. That's what the left has been doing for years. But now, they are really freaking out because it looks like GWB is gonna win in 2004, and the parade of idiots trotting themselves out as democRAT presidential hopefuls just keeps getting bigger. A whole corral full of jackasses!

4 posted on 09/20/2003 1:08:20 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: All
jeeze, he looks like he's about to POP!

I'll bet Rush and Sean are devastated by this guy's attack.

Ya know, him saying something like this is downright un-American! ;-)

Hb
5 posted on 09/20/2003 1:14:06 AM PDT by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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To: ppaul
We're "viciously strident" huh? I haven't seen Karl Schram - er Scam - do anything but call conservatives names. Typical liberal.
6 posted on 09/20/2003 1:20:31 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ppaul
Want to share your thoughts with Ken Schram? You can e-mail him at kenschram@komo4news.com.

Ken, you're getting fat. That beard makes you look like a goof. And ... it's a long time since I bothered listening to any of the toe tag liberals on Seattle TV.

7 posted on 09/20/2003 1:25:31 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: TheMole
Seattle - the Soviet of Washington State! ;-)
8 posted on 09/20/2003 1:26:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Hugin
What utter crap. All three have criticized Bush on many occasions. However it is true that many un-American leftists have a pathological hatred for Dubya.

Yup...Hanity was saying the other day that when when conservatives mess up he calls them on it, and when the do good he says so....he's the same way with liberals (its just that good ones are so few and far between)...

He'd just like to see the same thing from liberals. Its sacriligious to them to question one of their own regradless of his/her outlandish behaviour or stupid policies.

9 posted on 09/20/2003 1:30:35 AM PDT by PropheticZero
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To: goldstategop
Seattle - the Soviet of Washington State!

No doubt.
And with its own 9' tall bronze statue of Lenin!


Lenin in Seattle


10 posted on 09/20/2003 1:33:49 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
You would think the liberals do not have their outlets.

ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the NYT (the 'newspaper of record'), WaPo, you name it, they are all, and have been for many years, about as liberal as you can get.

And the liberals are in a snit about a few broadcasters who are conservative?

You betcha. It seems these few voices are being listened to while the liberal media is losing its audience.

When frustrated, liberals have hissy fits. This one seems to be escalating into a full fledged tantrum.

Look, liberals, if people don't like your soap they won't buy it.
11 posted on 09/20/2003 4:34:35 AM PDT by auntdot
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To: ppaul
Funny how those that do the bashing seem incapable of taking any type of criticism at all. They seem not to see the utter hypocracy of their complaints.
12 posted on 09/20/2003 4:47:22 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: OldFriend

Don't email him. Ignore him. The only way Al Franken sells books is to put Rush's name or Fox's motto on his bookcovers.
13 posted on 09/20/2003 4:51:16 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Disagreement is fine. More of the left seems to completely overlook reality just to take an opposing side. In many ways it harms the American position, our safety and our future. That is very un-American.
14 posted on 09/20/2003 5:28:37 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Hugin
they do not even listen to the radio shows. they are just REACTING!!

bush is being attacked left right and center, what better time to come out and spew BS? how brave!

orielly has been very hard on bush lately! sooo...

what the hell is talking about!
but again, he does not listen to the radio shows he is commenting on.
15 posted on 09/20/2003 5:33:46 AM PDT by WillowyDame (the solution to bigotry is quite simple. in america you are accepted when made the butt of jokes)
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To: ppaul
That if we don't let right-wing anally-conservative broadcasters do our thinking; if we don't strictly adhere to their every proclamation, we're un-American.

More proof of Ann Coulter's yet to be disproved thesis that the Left resorts to name calling as a substitute for dissenting discourse.

The absence of concrete evidence to refute our "proclamations" gives us no reason to conclude anything but an agenda of blind opposition to our attempt to protect our country.

What is the defining difference between the Left's posture on the war and that of America's enemies?

16 posted on 09/20/2003 5:35:09 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright
What is the defining difference between the Left's posture on the war and that of America's enemies?

You mean besides actually declaring that they are enemies?

I can't figure it out beyond that myself.

17 posted on 09/20/2003 5:44:09 AM PDT by StriperSniper (The slippery slope is getting steeper.)
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To: ppaul
Alam Colmes's favorite saying, "We can all disagree, but that doesn't make us un-American or un-patriotic."

True enough, our constitution makes room for a wild variety of expression and thought. Unfortunately the left would like to mold us all into equally mediocre partakers of socialist swill, and that IS un-American and un-Patriotic.

18 posted on 09/20/2003 5:44:33 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Your local dim bulb.)
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To: ppaul
This is from the script sent out from "HILLARY" to the crybabies to try and fracture Americans confidence in the President.

Economy not since "Hoover"

Bush not spending enough on "Homeland Security"

"Disagreeing Doesn't Mean We're Un-American"

Bush policy "PRE-EMPTIVE"

Bush has no plan

Bush administration "secret" won't answer questions

They know the only way to unseat President Bush is to sling accusations, whether founded or not trying to cause enough people to loose confidence.

Hillary wants her power back and she doesn't give a RAT'S behind how she gets it.

Hillary is waiting in the "wings" to come save us from evil "Bush".
19 posted on 09/20/2003 5:50:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Libertina; Chad Fairbanks; FreedomFriend; Fintan; Illbay; j_tull; Skywalk; lelio; znix; ...
ping.
20 posted on 09/20/2003 11:37:35 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
The Left is not now, nor has it ever been pro-American. The Left's loyalties lie with a uptopian vision of one global can't-we-all-just-get-along commune governed by one world government centered in the United Nations. Leftists reside in the United States, not because they love it, but simply as a means to destroy it from within. Personally, I think they've succeeded handsomely over the past 100 years or so. So much, that I believe at the end of this century there won't be a United States of America as it was bequeathed to us. A bleak outlook, I know.
21 posted on 09/20/2003 11:55:16 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: ppaul
What especially makes the left unAmerican is their attacks on the first amendment protecting free speech. They do that through CFR and their ever widening definition of hate-speech that they'll try to ban. If they could they'd label the support of flatter taxes hate-speech.
22 posted on 09/20/2003 11:59:55 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: ppaul
So, for Mikey, myself and all others who fell so labeled, I have an ALL-AMERICAN answer to the likes of Rush and Sean and Bill: Up yours!

Huh? Didn't we ALREADY get EIGHT years of 'up yours' 1993-2001 WJC ??? ...


23 posted on 09/20/2003 12:17:20 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: ppaul
Thanks for the ping ppaul
bump to read later...
24 posted on 09/20/2003 12:54:52 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: MeeknMing; ppaul
I have found this Barry Farber testimony to be an effective response to the left's mindless attacks. Multiple reporters blocked my e-mail address and I had a member of the British Parliament send me an angry rant - + a follow up to my reply - all because I forwarded this essay.

Could be because I left a few e-mail addresses on public display in the "To" box, including those of pro-war peers. (^;

8 Proud to Have Liberated Iraq ["I have never been prouder to be an American"] ~ Barry Farber

25 posted on 09/20/2003 1:28:23 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("This isn't going very well for the enemy." ~ Brit Hume)
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To: Hugin
However it is true that many un-American leftists have a pathological hatred for Dubya.

Not just Dubya. They hate all conservatives too.

26 posted on 09/20/2003 1:33:29 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Good !! Maybe they'll blow a gasket ...

27 posted on 09/20/2003 2:20:10 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: ppaul
Intellectually, Ken Schram wouldn't make a pimple on Rush's ass....
28 posted on 09/20/2003 3:32:27 PM PDT by clintonh8r (A gentleman knows something about everything and everything about something.)
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To: ppaul
Leftists are anti capitalist, anti judeo-christian values and are "multiculturalist".

They might live in America, but hardly know what it is to be an American.

The founding fathers weren't a bunch of godless homosexual communists.

29 posted on 09/20/2003 3:36:53 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Vote McNader and Bustamante wins)
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To: ppaul; Squantos; Travis McGee; joanie-f; Grampa Dave
Here's my email to Ken...
Ken,

You know, through life I have found that things tend to ultimatley balance out. It does that in American politics a lot over time...but some times it goes too long.

So, I guess it's kind of tough when the shoe is on the other foot...huh?

Well, for eight years we had it "Up Ours" from the Clinton administration and the liberal media...now the tables are turned and you are getting to feel what its like. Apparently you are having a tough time with it.

Don't get me wrong...there are some things about this administration's policies and some of the folks blindly accepting those particular points that I, what you would probably consider an ultra-conservative, don't agree with. But all in all, at least I can say that the air is pretty clear and breathable with Bush and his team...and we're out there taking the fight to the enemy instead of so blatantly pandering to every perverted and anti-American special interest, in and out of the country, imaginable.

So, all I canb say to you is...Welcome back to America...want some cheese with that wine?

Jeff Head
Engineering Consultant and Author
The Dragon's Fury Series
http://www.dragonsfuryseries.com
A techno-thriller series about the next World War

30 posted on 09/20/2003 5:11:23 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: ppaul
Thanks for the ping. These anti-American Bush haters are so bitter. You can hear it in their voices when they call in to C-SPAN or talk radio.

But Uncle Teddy went over the top and I'm sure a LOT of good Americans could see right through him.

31 posted on 09/20/2003 7:42:56 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: ppaul
Hey PPaul! Scram Schram is trying way too hard to be cute. Mark Steyn he isn't. Wonder if KOMO wwanted him to do this piece just to stir up a little controversy? All in all I'd say this is a great big load of uninformed YAWN...
32 posted on 09/20/2003 8:40:26 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Jeff Head
...want some cheese with that wine?

LOL
Kudos for the letter!

33 posted on 09/20/2003 9:17:50 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
His whole article was nothing but a big whiney, cry-baby article about how the mean old conservatives dont want to play ball with him.

Too bad.

I really hope to hear back from him...but am not holding my breath.

Jeff

34 posted on 09/20/2003 9:21:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
They're still in a state of shock since Ann Coulter dared to call them traitors, and backed it up chapter and verse.
35 posted on 09/20/2003 9:22:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
They don't like the light of truth...never have.

This guy comes across as a big whiner...like, those mean old conservatives won't play ball his way so he's going to show 'em.

Too bad...there's a war to fight and we don't have time for his cry baby antics.

BTW...hope sales of your book are sky rocketing!

36 posted on 09/20/2003 9:32:53 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Like cockroaches when the light hits them! NOT happy!

I've sold 2/3 of the 1,000, and Fred from Fred's M-14 stocks just ordered most of the rest, so I have to go to a 2nd edition soon. But I may need to do a new adobe, because I have too many corrections for it to be economical to fix them page by page at $15 a page/correction.

37 posted on 09/20/2003 9:53:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
GO TRAV GO!

Let me know if you need me to help in any way. Fremail or email.

38 posted on 09/20/2003 10:06:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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