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Wait a Minute!!!Does or Doesn't Bush Believe In Iraq's Role in 9/11??
The White House......CNN ^ | 3/19/03..9/18/03 | White House & CNN

Posted on 09/21/2003 6:07:51 AM PDT by joesbucks

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To: AppyPappy
Bush: No proof of Saddam role in 9/11

"We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th attacks."
- George W. Bush, 9/19/03

21 posted on 09/21/2003 7:21:52 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: joesbucks
Apparently, there was no evidence linking O.J. Simpson to the murder of his wife. But we all know he did it.

Bush has rightfully claimed that we have no evidence linking Hussein to 9/11. But we all know that a strong basis exists to infer that he was connected, at least indirectly. Cheney has made this case very well.

What Bush ought to say is that he believes in this probable connection.
22 posted on 09/21/2003 7:59:41 AM PDT by zook
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To: zook
"What Bush ought to say is that he believes in this probable connection."
My take on this is that we have found Sadaam and are negotiating for his surrender. Bush needs to make Sadaam out as not so bad a guy after all because we will offer him exile in a paradise country with his lifestyle paid for by the American taxpayer.
23 posted on 09/21/2003 8:08:07 AM PDT by afz400
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To: Peach
"The Bush doctrine as outlined numerous times is that we will not only go after terrorists themselves," but those who harbour them, give them money, train them, etc."

Then what about the Saudis?
24 posted on 09/21/2003 8:27:55 AM PDT by poet
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To: poet
See #16.
25 posted on 09/21/2003 8:31:30 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: zook
What Bush ought to say is that he believes in this probable connection.

Not without proof he shouldn't. He'd leave himself open to the wahckjobs, left, right and center who want to change the causus belli for invading Iraq from harboring terrorists and bein a mass murderer to a definite link with 9/11.

26 posted on 09/21/2003 8:31:58 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Peach
The only alleged camp that I know of was in Kurdish territory.....but then the pro-war folks keep "revising" so often that it is hard to keep track.
27 posted on 09/21/2003 8:32:39 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: alnick
" this war will not be military and that we will never even know about it?"

Just asking, but,:

Could that mean "war" on us also? I refer to "patriot 1" and the coming "patriot 2".
28 posted on 09/21/2003 8:34:38 AM PDT by poet
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To: zook
Weird comparison between a race-based jury nullication case and a foreign strategic issue. There is a mountain of evidence showing that O.J. killed his wife. The pro-war folks are spinning like clocks trying to rationalize a 9-11 link.
29 posted on 09/21/2003 8:34:43 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: joesbucks
Here's the far more important question:

Not a single democrat has vowed to continue the War On Terror . . Why ????

30 posted on 09/21/2003 8:35:27 AM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: poet
Then what about the Saudis?

Well, the Saudi, the Syrrian and the Libyan triokas are currently besides themselves with fear over a somewhat democratic republic of Iraq.

Why you ask?

Because they know that there productive citizenry will emigrate in a heartbeat.

But tell me, are you from the school that teaches if you can't do it all, you mustn't do anything?

31 posted on 09/21/2003 8:35:38 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Austin Willard Wright
The only alleged camp that I know of was in Kurdish territory.....but then the pro-war folks keep "revising" so often that it is hard to keep track.

If you are referring to Salman Pak, which is NOT in the northern no-fly zone, but just 15 miles south of Baghdad, well, that is not/was not Kurdish controlled area.

Salman Pak, a training camp on the Tigris River some 15 miles southeast of Iraq's capital, could clarify this question. According to Iraqi defectors and U.S. intelligence analysts, this is where Hussein's agents polished the air-piracy skills of foreign Islamist terrorists.

This is a common misconception people have.

32 posted on 09/21/2003 8:40:57 AM PDT by eyespysomething (master of puppets I'm pulling your strings)
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To: Peach
Giving the Freeper the benefit of the doubt, the press has done all it can to sow the seeds of doubt.

You can blame the media if you want but it sure looks like the administration that sending out mixed and confusing messages. Given the lack of any solid evidence that Iraq was linked to 9/11, AQ or had WMD, the new strategy appears to be tell half truths, back track and above all, keep them guessing. I find it particularly disappointing and troubling that the administration is being so evasive. Having Chaney claim one thing and GW the opposite in the same week is getting to be just too much.

Richard W.

33 posted on 09/21/2003 8:51:40 AM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: eyespysomething
Yes, I know about this. I also now about the looming WMD mushroom clouds cited by Rice, the the massive upcoming report on "WMDs," the Atta meeting, etc. If Salman Pak is the smoking gun, Dubya should be shouting it from the roof-tops. If there is "something there," he is a fool for not doing so. I, for one, do not believe he is a fool.
34 posted on 09/21/2003 8:58:27 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: joesbucks
What's your question?

There is no contradiction.

Bush doctrine: Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists. We will make no distinction between the terrorists and those who give them aid and shelter.
35 posted on 09/21/2003 9:03:16 AM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: jwalsh07
"But tell me, are you from the school that teaches if you can't do it all, you mustn't do anything?"

No, I'm from the school that says: "Don't piss on me from the balcony and then tell me it's raining"!

Don't have a doctrine and then exclude someone who is doing the same thing that caused you to proclaim that doctrine. In other words, be consistant.

As for your comment that the creeps are shaking in their boots, that's nonsense, these beasts are nuts and are not afraid to die for their cause and that includes anyone who buys into their murders. Can you really tell the "good guys" from the "bad guys" from these religious fanatics?








36 posted on 09/21/2003 9:03:26 AM PDT by poet
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To: AntiGuv
Don't forget what else President Bush said (found at your link):

Bush added, "There's no question that Saddam Hussein had al-Qaeda ties."

37 posted on 09/21/2003 9:05:41 AM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: Austin Willard Wright; Peach
The only alleged camp that I know of was in Kurdish territory

Peach speaks of Salman Pak. 25 miles from Baghdad.

38 posted on 09/21/2003 9:07:06 AM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: arete
We've been down this road before, arete. I defy you to find a Bush statement where he says Saddam is behind 9/11.

You won't find it - Lexus-Nexus searches have been done according to C-Span yesterday - and there is no such statement.

What Bush has said consistently since 9/12, the Bush doctrine consists of not only going after terrorists but those who harbour them and fund them and train them. Iraq has always fallen into that category and there is no one who disputes that except you. You have not read the thousands of articles written since the mid-90's and most recently since 9/11/01 about AQ contacts with Iraq.

BTW, Cheney and Bush DID NOT say different things, with the exception that Cheney left the door open a little bit into the fact that "new information" is coming in every day and perhaps Iraq will be tied to 9/11 after all the facts are in. Bush said to date we have no seen information that Saddam was behind 9/11.

Considering that we know Iraq had their hand in the first WTC attack, Cheney's remarks seemed remarkably restrained.
39 posted on 09/21/2003 9:08:20 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: joesbucks
You can certainly see the propaganda in the media about Iraq/Al Qaeda and doing everything they can to undercut the president & our national security in the name of their left wing agenda. Of course we all see the war propaganda on our TV screens every day, NEVER any of the wonderful things that we have accomplished. I read somewhere that a soldier came home from Iraq and was watching the news & said "what war are they covering?" That says it all.

Just last week the USA Today had a news article about one of the terrorists involved in the WTC bombing in 1993 that the FBI turned loose at the time & he fled to IRAQ. There is a $25 Million price on his head. Since major combat ended in May, our guys have found documents where this terrorist was on Saddam's payroll and they paid him monthly. Do you think ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN and rest of the leftist media picked this story up and reported it. NO! Not a word from them, yet they all had to report as a "story" the ranting of Teddy Kennedy saying "this war is a fraud, hatched up in Texas for political gain & the administration had not accounted for $2B dollars which they used to BRIBE other leaders to help us." HUH? This was nothing but anti-war, Bush-hating rhetoric which the media agrees with, therefore a "story". Response from the White house, NO COMMENT! The only response has come from the greatest guy we have, Tom Delay. I can't remember what he said, but it was cutting. Typical Kennedy (Democrap) response to DeLay was the whinig "his patriotism is being questioned." Waaaaaaa! Regarding the USA story, Alarms should be going off all over the place. I do believe Iraq had something to do with 9/11 and other terror attacks against us in past 10 years & the administration had better be straight with us. TRUST US is not going to cut it with the American people, not when all we are hearing is anti-war screeches from the left is "Bush Lied, lied, lied, lied". If you hear that enough, people will believe it and they are. It is taking a toll on the president's poll numbers. When the only reponse from the white house to these attacks on the prez is "no comment", that is arrogant and will destroy him in the end.

I am very worried. If the Republicans do not immediately begin going on the attack against the dems & the press, we are finished and Tom Delay & Rush Limbaugh will not be able to save us.
40 posted on 09/21/2003 9:09:13 AM PDT by nightowl
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