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Gen. Clark: Saddam Not a Criminal
NewsMax.com ^ | 9/21/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 09/21/2003 8:37:32 AM PDT by kattracks

In a little noticed interview with Fortune Magazine last week, presidential frontrunner Gen. Wesley Clark defended Saddam Hussein against charges that he was engaged in crimes against his own people at the time the Iraq war started, contending instead that the Iraqi dictator should have gotten a pass because his atrocities took place ten years ago.

Asked why it was right for President Clinton to use military force to halt Slobodan Milosevic's crimes against humanity in Kosovo, but not for President Bush to do the same thing against Saddam, Clark said that in Iraq, "The imminence of stopping a guy from committing a crime in progress - it wasn't there."

"In Kosovo you had ethnic cleansing actually unfolding, and we had intervened to stop it," the ex-NATO commander insisted, without commenting on the torture chambers, rape rooms and mass graves discovered in Iraq by coalition forces.

Instead, the Democratic frontrunner suggested that the Iraqi dictator deserved a pass by outlining what Fortune described as Clark's "Statute of Limitations for Genocidal Thugs."

"It was ten years ago that Saddam brutalized the Shiite Muslims in the south," he argued. "And he used chemical weapons 15 years ago."

Instead, said the retired military man, Saddam brutality was really no worse than crimes committed by leaders in China more than a decade ago, telling Fortune:

"We still deal with communist China, right? During the Cultural Revolution they had cannibalism in China. And the same guys that ran over the students in Tiananmen, they're still there."

Fortune writer Bill Powell pointed out, however, that while China is still a police state, "the recently departed General Secretary Jiang Zemin, to take but one example, was promoted from mayor of Shanghai to succeed Deng Xiaoping in part because he avoided bloodshed during Tiananmen. . . . Have you ever heard of Saddam promoting someone because he avoided killing somebody?"

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1 posted on 09/21/2003 8:37:32 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Does it bother anyone when an american shills for a deposed socialist dictator ?
2 posted on 09/21/2003 8:39:43 AM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: ChadGore
Yes. Wussy Clark is a certified nut job.
3 posted on 09/21/2003 8:41:25 AM PDT by sd-joe
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To: kattracks
Clark = Looney Toon!!!!!!
4 posted on 09/21/2003 8:42:17 AM PDT by LADY J
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To: kattracks
Meanwhile Scumbag Clinton is calling for the arrest of Ratko Mladic whom his boy Gen. Wesley Clark played hat trade with.

On August 27, 1994, Clark, then director of strategy, plans and policy for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, went to Banja Luka - and met with Ratko Mladic, the bloodstained military leader of the Bosnian Serbs. (My note: everybody apparently forgets that before Serbia's the aggression in Bosnia the same Ratko Mladic was military commander of the Serbian army ("Yugoslav Peoples Army") in Croatia and conducted large scale massacres of Croatian civillians there, especially in the ethnically "cleansed of Croatian population "Krajina", another Serb-proclaimed "republic"). The State Departement had advised against the meeting, on account of Mladic's well-documented war crimes in Gorazde, Srebrenica and Sarajevo. Still, Clark and Mladic had a jolly time. Mladic gave Clark some plum brandy and a pistol with a Cyrillic inscription, and the two merrily swapped military hats. What do you do with a man with that kind of moral cluelessness? Promote him.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1512&ncid=703&e=11&u=/afp/20030920/wl_afp/bosnia_srebrenica_us_clinton

Clinton urges reconciliation in Bosnia, arrest of war crimes suspects

Sat Sep 20,11:55 AM ET Add World - AFP to My Yahoo!

SREBRENICA, Bosnia-Hercegovina (AFP) - Former US president Bill Clinton (news - web sites) urged reconciliation among Bosnia's three ethnic communities at the site of Europe's worst atrocity since World War II, calling for the arrest of those responsible for the Srebrenica massacre.

"For much of its history Bosniacs (Muslims), Croats and Serbs have lived together in peace," Clinton said at a ceremony marking the opening of a memorial cemetery for the more than 7,000 victims, attended by some 20,000 Bosnian Muslims.

He stressed that the US-brokered peace agreement ending Bosnia's 1992-1995 war, which pitted the three ethnic communities against each other, gave people "a chance but not the guarantee to live that way once again."

"I hope you can build on the bedrock of Srebrenica in Bosnia-Hercegovina a place where all children are safe and loved and able to live out their dreams," he stressed, speaking on a stage in front of which the remains of 107 Srebrenica victims, wrapped in green cloth, were placed on the ground before burial.

But the former president stressed that those allegedly responsible for the massacre, which he described as a "genocidal madness," were still on the run, more than eight years after Srebrenica.

"Those most responsible for the atrocities, the leaders have not been apprehended. The search for them must continue until they are," Clinton said, in a clear reference to Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic.

Interpol wanted page for Ratko Mladic

5 posted on 09/21/2003 8:42:23 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: sd-joe
Wow, talk about not being ready for prime time!
6 posted on 09/21/2003 8:43:29 AM PDT by FLAUSA
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To: kattracks
Have you ever heard of Saddam promoting someone because he avoided killing somebody?"

Might have happened; it's not impossible. Do we have the mental armor to survive if we get this hypotheticizing tornado for President? It's already getting old.

7 posted on 09/21/2003 8:44:35 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: kattracks
"We still deal with communist China, right? During the Cultural Revolution they had cannibalism in China. And the same guys that ran over the students in Tiananmen, they're still there."

Well, since Clinton was such good friends with the ChiComm, it is no wonder that nothing was done. But now, we must go after those who are attacking us, the terrorists, and China will have to wait for the moment.

8 posted on 09/21/2003 8:45:09 AM PDT by eyespysomething (master of puppets I'm pulling your strings)
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To: kattracks
Wesley Clark is not a general either!
9 posted on 09/21/2003 8:46:19 AM PDT by hardhead (Vast Right Wing Conspirator, Serial Number 565723890)
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To: kattracks
Gen. Wesley Clark defended Saddam Hussein against charges

General Ramsey-JimmyCarter-Clark.

What an absolute BOZO this guy is.

10 posted on 09/21/2003 8:47:51 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: kattracks
Clark can't afford to call Saddam a (war)criminal since he is one also.
11 posted on 09/21/2003 8:48:28 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: finnman69
You beat me to it, so here's another.


12 posted on 09/21/2003 8:49:17 AM PDT by idkfa
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To: kattracks
Thank you, Former Gen. Clark, for exemplifying why Democrats should never be allowed to hold office. Giving civil rights to dictators by putting in a statuate of limitations for genocide? Yeah, right. I wonder how long it would take to visit the Kurd population in Northern Iraq to find a more current attrocity. Three seconds, you think?
13 posted on 09/21/2003 8:49:18 AM PDT by kingu (I'm voting for Arnold, if I'm allowed to.)
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To: kattracks
"In Kosovo you had ethnic cleansing actually unfolding, and we had intervened to stop it," the ex-NATO commander insisted, without commenting on the torture chambers, rape rooms and mass graves discovered in Iraq by coalition forces.

Instead, the Democratic frontrunner suggested that the Iraqi dictator deserved a pass by outlining what Fortune described as Clark's "Statute of Limitations for Genocidal Thugs."

In 1962 Israel found Adolph Eichmann hiding in Argentina. They kidnapped, tried, convicted, and executed him for his implementation of the Final Solution. Little did they know that they were perpetrating a GRAVE INJUSTICE since the Clarkian statute of limitations on genocide had run out?

14 posted on 09/21/2003 8:50:16 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: kattracks
presidential frontrunner Gen. Wesley Clark

How quickly he has attained this title!!

15 posted on 09/21/2003 8:51:04 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........I *LOVE* hitting the abuse button...............)
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To: ChadGore
Does it bother anyone when an american shills for a deposed socialist dictator ?

Actually, yes it does.

If this is out there and accurate, there will be plenty of RAT liliputians in the race (Lieberman and Kerry to name two) who will be more than happy to burn-out Clark's shooting-star by publicizing this. These guys are in survival mode, trying to remain standing after the inevitable winnowing occurs. They'll take Clark out themselves...with stuff just like this if need be.

16 posted on 09/21/2003 8:52:54 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: kattracks
Clark is one little tin soldier. Watch his head swell and get ahead of his mouth as it has begun to do already.
17 posted on 09/21/2003 8:53:05 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: idkfa

"Hey, look at the silly american wearing the war criminal's hat!"

18 posted on 09/21/2003 8:54:18 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: EggsAckley
Clark is the next best definition of Shooting Star.

It'll take him a whole lot less time to burn out than James Dean.

19 posted on 09/21/2003 8:56:14 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: kattracks
They don't call him WC for nothing, lift the lid and see what is swirling around.
20 posted on 09/21/2003 8:56:18 AM PDT by dts32041 ("Any priest or shaman must be presumed guilty until proved innocent."--RAH)
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To: kattracks
Iraqi dictator should have gotten a pass because his atrocities took place ten years ago

Discounting the INCORRECT assumption that the atocities by Saddam were NOT still ONGOING when the above statement was made, by Clark's logic any torture or murder committed that is NOT IMMEDIATELY dealt with, MUST therefore be excused. This man is an airhead. How did this PASSED OVER Brigadier General make 4 Stars?? Only X42 knows the answer!

21 posted on 09/21/2003 8:56:56 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: kattracks
Clark said that in Iraq, "The imminence of stopping a guy from committing a crime in progress - it wasn't there."

Is this guy a complete nutwad?

That fact that Sadaam kept breaking the ceasefire agreement alone was enough to justify this war.

22 posted on 09/21/2003 8:57:01 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: EggsAckley
How quickly he has attained this title!!

I think this is good.

By now everyone knows Weasly Clark was hand picked by the clintons. A few more remarks like this and the little general is toast, and it can't do the clintons any good either.

The clintons and their stooges have, more than likely, been working on Clark for months (when was it first mentined he would run?)and he still sticks his foot in his mouth BIGTIME.

23 posted on 09/21/2003 9:00:16 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kingu
"Thank you, Former Gen. Clark, for exemplifying why Democrats should never be allowed to hold office."

AGREED!
24 posted on 09/21/2003 9:04:12 AM PDT by jocon307 (how much trouble is THIS post going to get me in?)
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To: kattracks
Apologize, apologize, apologize. Then imphasize the good so you appear to care. Right out of the Clinton play book.
This dude is a real wack job.
25 posted on 09/21/2003 9:05:29 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: sirchtruth
At the time the war started, Saddam had the unique distinction of being the only head of state that was routinely firing missiles at our planes. As you pointed out, for that reason alone Hussein had to be driven from power. Otherwise, we would have gone back to square one as far as credibility was concerned because people would go back to thinking that you could kill Americans and nothing would happen to you a la the 1993 WTC bombing, the Mogadishu fiasco, the embassy bombings in Mozambique and Kenya, the Khobar Towers bombing, and the attack on the U.S.S. Cole.
26 posted on 09/21/2003 9:08:29 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: sirchtruth
How about the 5000 children who were dying every month during the era of sanctions? All the bleeding heart NGOs wanted us to drop the sanctions policy because it was killing Iraqis. Where are these spokesmen now that the word is out about the number of Iraqis murdered by Saddam and the Baathist regime? I guess if the NYT doesn't promote an idea then it did not really happen, and we can all just 'move on.'
27 posted on 09/21/2003 9:10:56 AM PDT by maica (Mainstream American)
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To: kattracks
Dear "General:" For your own protection, please step away from the crack pipe.
28 posted on 09/21/2003 9:13:24 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: finnman69
What the hell is that? Is that a French kepi? That would be perfectly appropriate...
29 posted on 09/21/2003 9:14:28 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Young Werther
Yes. I believe that to this day, that is the only crime/criminal for which Israel has invoked the death penalty.
30 posted on 09/21/2003 9:18:36 AM PDT by College Repub
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To: kattracks
Mary Help!
31 posted on 09/21/2003 9:20:47 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: Tom Bombadil
Wait, I'm confused. Is it Ramsey or Wesley running for president?
32 posted on 09/21/2003 9:22:19 AM PDT by idkfa
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To: kattracks
The headline leads one to believe Clark said "Saddam is not a criminal" but I don't see such a quote in the article.
33 posted on 09/21/2003 9:24:40 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
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To: kattracks
Instead, the Democratic frontrunner suggested that the Iraqi dictator deserved a pass by outlining what Fortune described as Clark's "Statute of Limitations for Genocidal Thugs."

So if he became CIC (LoL's) would he allow the re-enstatement of Saddam as Iraqi President?

This guy is actually in the running? If he has a gnats a$$ of a chance for succeeding in his endeavor we are in much more trouble than I have ever dreamt possible in this country!

34 posted on 09/21/2003 9:25:01 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: kattracks
Gen. Clark: Saddam Not a Criminal

Right, and OBL built day care centers. I'll write Clark and suggest Patty Murray as his running mate.

36 posted on 09/21/2003 9:27:50 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ChadGore
I don't think we'll have much trouble with this guy. He likes to suck his toes.

Can you believe this salad brain was first in his class at West Point??

37 posted on 09/21/2003 9:28:05 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: kattracks; *balkans; vooch; Destro; Seselj; PiP PiP Cherrio; smokegenerator; boston_liberty; ...
"In Kosovo you had ethnic cleansing actually unfolding, and we had intervened to stop it," the ex-NATO commander insisted, without commenting on the torture chambers, rape rooms and mass graves discovered in Iraq by coalition forces.
38 posted on 09/21/2003 9:28:43 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: kattracks
This guy sold out the his principals of truth to be a political whore.... how can he sleep at night???
39 posted on 09/21/2003 9:29:13 AM PDT by Porterville (I spell stuff wrong sometimes, get over yourself, you're not that great.)
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To: ChadGore
Does it bother anyone when an american shills for a deposed socialist dictator ?

It doesn't bother me when a single American does it nearly much as the fact that tens of millions of American Democrats do it every day.

41 posted on 09/21/2003 9:32:15 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: kattracks
And to think he's being, um, groomed for the presidency. Get your handbaskets packed, folks.
42 posted on 09/21/2003 9:32:21 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: kattracks
My understanding of Kosovo was that the "ethnic cleansing" was vastly overstated for the purpose of having an excuse for Klintoon to show off his incomparable skills as commander-in-chief. Never once did I hear a compelling reason for us to interfere in the civil unrest taking place in Bosnia or Kosovo. Does Wesley Clark really expect us to accept the illogic that Klintoon's military actions were absolutely necessary because he's a DemocRAT, and that nothing President Bush does is justifiable because he's a Republican?
43 posted on 09/21/2003 9:35:51 AM PDT by exDemMom (Michael Jackson for Governor!)
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To: exDemMom
Your understanding is correct. There was an exodus of Kosovars after we started bombing, at least partly in response to the bombing itself. Clark and the other perps then turned around and pointed to that as their justification for bombing.
44 posted on 09/21/2003 9:43:36 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Incorrigible
Be afraid---be very afraid. Is Clark running for anti-Christ?
45 posted on 09/21/2003 9:44:06 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: kattracks
Would he also say that Janet Reno and Webster Hubbell are not criminals because the Waco massacre occured 10 years ago ? The evidence is out there that Westly Clark has severely flawed character and seeks only power, like his new mentor.
46 posted on 09/21/2003 9:44:46 AM PDT by SSN558 (Be on the lookout for Black White-Supremacists)
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To: kattracks
And I got this one for the Waco gassing/slaughter.


47 posted on 09/21/2003 9:46:21 AM PDT by Howie
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To: kingu
Had Hitler survived the war for a few years, Clark might have given him a "statute of limitations" pass too. RATS are scum!
48 posted on 09/21/2003 9:47:57 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (Freerepublic.com is eTruth!)
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To: kattracks
From another thread:

Wesley "Queeg" Clark was involved in some troublesome events during the Clinton years. It was his good buddy Bill Clinton who set aside the Posse Comitatus Act, allowing Clark to "loan" armor and service personnel to be used against the Branch Davidians at Waco.

49 posted on 09/21/2003 9:49:02 AM PDT by SSN558 (Be on the lookout for Black White-Supremacists)
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To: kattracks
I'm waiting for Clark's position paper on 'precious bodily fluids'.
50 posted on 09/21/2003 9:49:08 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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