Robbins Jabs Limbaugh(and O'Reilly) to Undo "Shameful" Past of Ducking Vietnam

MRC ^ | 10:25am EDT, Monday September 22, 2003 | BrentBaker

[fight_truth_decay]

Tim Robbins called out Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh, urging them to "undo their shameful" past, when they "pussied out" of service during Vietnam, by agreeing to sign up and join the military deployed to Iraq. The far-left actor proclaimed Friday night on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher: "I would suggest that we send some of those people over there. I would love to see a Sergeant O'Reilly in the armed forces. And a Lieutenant Limbaugh. Lieutenant Limbaugh would be beautiful thing to see."

Appearing on the September 19 panel with Republican Congresswoman Heather Wilson and actor/comedian Dana Carvey, Robbins complained about the long deployments causing reservists to lose their apartments and charged that "instead of cutting $10 billion in aid" to veterans (a ridiculous claim), those who were so "gung ho" for the war should now sign up for it so those over there can return home.

Robbins spewed his vile: "I would suggest that we send some of those people over there. I would love to see a Sergeant O'Reilly in the armed forces. And a Lieutenant Limbaugh. Lieutenant Limbaugh would be beautiful thing to see. These guys have the opportunity a lot of, most of these guys that were such advocates of this war had the opportunity during Vietnam to serve their country and pussied out. And here's a perfect opportunity for them to undo that shameful past and to enlist and go over and walk it like they talk it."

Maher quipped: "So you want fat, middle-aged men fighting for America?"

Robbins added cops to the list of those he insulted: "Hey, you know, the police departments, you know."

Limbaugh was born in 1951 and O'Reilly in 1949, making both well over age 50 and way too old for any military service.

For a picture and bio of Robbins, who was born in 1958 and thus was luckily too young for Vietnam, check his Internet Movie Database page with a complete rundown of his movie roles: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000209/

[fight_truth_decay]

[mewzilla]

Oh, Susan, your significant other's off his meds again....

[bedolido]

idiot actors... the best pretenders make the most money. Robbins is famous... but fame doesn't make a person less stupid, just famously stupid.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

When exactly did Mrs. Timothy Sarandon serve HIS stint in the service that allows him to say anything he wants?

[_Jim]

CHEAP cheap shot by Robbins - charge which has no basis in reality as well ...

[fml]

--For a picture and bio of Robbins--

Ummmm, why would you want that?

[IYAS9YAS]

Gee, I wonder what they'd say about the fine folks who served in WWI and WWII or the Revolution for that matter...Probably wouldn't do any good to bring up the Civil War amongst these rubes. Bet they'd say it was "different" back then.

[Frank_Discussion]

The picture would mount nicely on a dartboard.

[MiddleVillager]

Back to the ShawShank shower, ButtHead.

[dead]

Does anybody watch Maher's new HBO show? Any ratings what so ever?

This is the first time I've read anything about it, and I forgot he was even back (at least theoretically)

[lelio]

When exactly did Mrs. Timothy Sarandon serve HIS stint in the service that allows him to say anything he wants?

When did Rush?

[Pete]

Nobody is listening to Robbins. He has no credibility. He is too shrill for the average American. They see him as a nutball. What a ta-ra-ra-goon-dee-ay.

[Leroy S. Mort]

I suggest if Timmy thinks O'Reilly is a pussy, he have Vince McMahon arrange a cage match between the two. I'm sure Bill would oblige.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

When did Rush?

I asked first.

Besides, Mrs. Sarandon is the one who brought it up.

[freeperfromnj]

O'Reilly has a temper. It will be interesting to see how he responds to this.

[sarasota]

Why respond and give Tim any publicity?

[LibWhacker]

Great Leader's buttboy should go home to Pyong Yang.

[finnman69]

Someone send this to every police union in the country.

[familyofman]

O'Reilly has a temper. It will be interesting to see how he responds to this.

Maybe he'll enlist.

[whereasandsoforth]

Rush Limbaugh did not avoid the draft. The draft avoided Rush Limbaugh. Just like me. But Rush and I still have working brains. The likes of Tim Robbins can't make that claim. How sad to live one's life in bitter resentment of those that are morally superior.

[kinghorse]

Hey, get off 1958. I was born that year. It WAS a lucky year.

[Charles Martel]

When exactly did Mrs. Timothy Sarandon serve HIS stint in the service that allows him to say anything he wants?

I'm sure he's played a make-believe soldier in a film or two. Does that count? (evidently it does to Timmy)

[WackyKat]

When exactly did Mrs. Timothy Sarandon serve HIS stint in the service that allows him to say anything he wants?

Since when is military service required to exercise one's First Amendment rights?

I'm no fan of Robbins, but I agree with this criticism of chickenhawk talk radio hosts who have made millions off of spewing pro-Iraq war rhetoric while others do the fighting and dying.

I sure would like to see Hannity's loudmouth punk @ss out in the desert with a rifle in his hands. I wonder if he knows which end the bullet comes out of.

Wackykat: former trooper, 3/7 Cavalry

[Capt. Jake]

Wacky-As far as I can tell, Hannity and Ollie North took the same position on the Iraq war. Is it your argument that only North's was legitimate because he has served? If so, you will exclude a whole lot of people from the political process. I'm interested in your reasoning.

[Richard Axtell]

Well, perhaps we shouldn't be so hard on Tim Robbins. He is just asking that people who advocate a policy, actively participate in it. That is reasonable to some extent, isn't it? Can't you see it his way? After all he is faithfully acting out HIS role in this controversy,.. that of a sniveling, traitorous, coward. And he is doing a very good job of filling that role at that, thank you very much! So, really... let the man speak, as he is making a complete fool of himself, and a shambles of his career in the process!

[fight_truth_decay]

If someone could insert Robbins head shot to the Looney Tunes picture would be great! Source:http://pictures.ask.com/pictures?q=Tim+Robbins&qsrc=1

Thanks
f_t_d

[wideawake]

I want to know why Tim's girlfriend avoided serving as a WAC in WWII.

[montag813]

When exactly did Mrs. Timothy Sarandon serve HIS stint in the service

Didn't you see "Jacob's Ladder"? Robbins played was a Vietnam veteran. To the Hollywood crowd, that qualifies him completely.

Recall how Jane Fonda testified before Congress after ACTING in "The China Syndrome" and single-handedly undermined a then-growing nuclear industry in the nation with her lies. We could have been 40% nuclear without that bitch.

[chimera]

So the man's logic seems to be, if you didn't serve in the military, it leaves one unqualified to address issues related to the military. Therefore, since Mr. Robbins didn't serve, he is unqualified to speak to issues such as whether or not the military should have been deployed to Iraq. So his criticisms voiced heretofore on this issue should be invalidated, by his own logic and reasoning. I mean, we have to be consistent in our logic (at least conservatives are called upon to be so, liberals evidently don't have such a requirement).

We should also extend the logic a bit to other areas. Politics, for example. I am unware of Mr. Robbins' service in any elective office. If it is indeed true that he has never held a political office, he is likewise unqualified to speak to political issues, or pass judgement on elected officials, since he has never served as they have. IOW, it is logically consistent (and desirable from a moral viewpoint) to conclude that Mr. Robbins should STFU.

[drjimmy]

Rush Limbaugh did not avoid the draft. The draft avoided Rush Limbaugh.
Rush was medically disqualified from the draft because he had a cyst on his butt.

[Ingtar]

I missed it by being born in 1959. I was in a small group of people that did not ever have to register. We fell between the ending of the draft and the later reinstatement of registration.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Since when is military service required to exercise one's First Amendment rights?

WHICH IS EXACTLY THE FRIEKING POINT.

Why is it that you support Mrs. Sarandon's demand of military service from Rush et al in order for them to to be allowed to speak about military policy, but Mrs. Sarandon is exempt from that requirement?

[whereasandsoforth]

"Rush was medically disqualified from the draft because he had a cyst on his butt."

And when it burst, out came Tim Robbins.

[Billthedrill]

Well, fair's fair - I don't recall Miss Robbins taking this position with respect to his hero Clinton.

(BTW, that's "Bill Clinton." He was once an important American political figure of some sort, I believe...)

[auggy]

"Hey, get off 1958. I was born that year. It WAS a lucky year."

I'm sure it was. '49 wasn't. It isn't a very good thing to know that after graduation you either had to go to college, or go to war. No other choices, that was it.

Canada, wasn't an option. Too, many young boys gave their life for a war that had no meaning or no plans to win. That was the shame of it all. Ba$tard, Lyndon Johnson.

[Charles Martel]

And when it burst, out came Tim Robbins.

LOL! Thanks, I'll remember to think of Robbins the next time I lance a boil!

[drjimmy]

I missed it by being born in 1959. I was in a small group of people that did not ever have to register. We fell between the ending of the draft and the later reinstatement of registration.
I was born in 1958, and always felt weird that my older brother and younger brother both had to register for the draft, but I didn't.

[bmwcyle]

I was number 64 in March of 1974 when Nixon ended the draft but I served in the US Submarines force from 1984 to 1990. Shut up Robbins you fool.

[fight_truth_decay]

Though Robbins loves dishing it out,
his speech to the press removes doubt
that being dish-ee
has caused him to be
a whiner who cries and who pouts.

[macamadamia]

You've hit the nail on the head--Robbins is a sophist. A good argument stands on its own. Its merit is not dependent upon the person speaking, no matter how much we dislike the person.

This kind of attack is so damned old and silly. Anyone trying it is unwittingly, or not, endorsing military rule. Only military men can make policy decisions and only citizens who have served can speak up. Everyone else, shut up and keep your persuasive arguments to yourself.

Sparta arise!!

[xrp]

Hasn't Rush L suffered from asthma? Wouldn't that preclude him from serving in the military or is that an urban legend?

[Blood of Tyrants]

Robbins, a person who studiously has avoided ever serving in the military, is again showing what a complete idiot he is.

[namvetcav]

Do people like Robbins or for that matter, anyone on the left, have any respect for the views of Vietnam vets who disagree with them? When did they exibit this behavior? I've never noticed. I've always inferred that they hold us to be especially stupid. Only Nam vets like Kerry who agree with them are conferred respect. It is obviously dishonest for Robbins to denounce non-serving guys because leftists only care about the substantive issues. Personal bravery or any non-victim status is usually a character flaw to those on the left.

[chimera]

Well, fair's fair - I don't recall Miss Robbins taking this position with respect to his hero Clinton.

Good point. Robbins never said anything about Clinton's lack of service. That should have disqualified Clinton from making any decisions regarding the military. So therefore he should never have in CinC. That probably washes out all of the Rats this time around except for Clark and Kerry. Hey, Tim, maybe you're onto something there. What's the old adage about being careful of what you wish for...?

[ampat]

I think Rush is doing far more to serve his country by having his radio show, than he would ever have done in the military. For you utopian-dreaming lefties, in a perfect world, those who are exceptionally good at something would be assigned to that task.

[StoneColdTaxHater]

F**K Him!

[TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa]

You have to remember. Tim has a movie coming out October 3rd. Robbins, Penn and Bacon play three men who were childhood friends in tough Irish-American section of Boston - until Robbins' character was abducted and abused by pedophiles. Penn and Robbins in the same movie? It already has 2 strikes against it.

[NavyCaptain]

Rush and Bill should volunteer right after Tim does. I am a Vietnam Veteran. By the time these folks had the opportunity to serve, we had a lottery system that decided a person's availability for the draft. I remember as I learned while in Vietnam that my number in the very first lottery was 13 (me being born in 1946). But Tim could have volunteered too and served in Desert Storm or even Iraq!

[fight_truth_decay]

Robbins complained about the long deployments causing reservists to lose their apartments and charged that "instead of cutting $10 billion in aid" to veterans (a ridiculous claim), those who were so "gung ho" for the war should now sign up for it so those over there can return home.

Rush: However our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one-time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month and most are now equal to be millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7 you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you in harms way receive a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting. "When do we finally do something about this?"

[Republic]

Just curious-but does timmy robbins have the courage to tell this to Bill O'Reilly to his face? Or to Rush? That would hardly be a vietnam/iraq scenario-requiring no courage compared to serving our nation in dangerous times. Can timmy robbins walk his talk? I doubt it.