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The Other Limbaugh: New Book Call To Arms Against 'Christian Persecution'...
The Drudge Report ^ | Monday, September 22, 2003 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 09/22/2003 1:40:29 PM PDT by paulklenk

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON SEPT 22, 2003 13:44:25 ET XXXXX

THE OTHER LIMBAUGH: NEW BOOK CALL TO ARMS AGAINST 'CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION'

**THE RELIGIOUS WAR IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, IT IS IN THIS COUNTRY!

**IN 1776, 99.8% OF THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA WERE PROFESSED CHRISTIANS

The new season may be only one day old but the most controversial book of the season may just be: David Limbaugh's PERSECUTION: HOW LIBERALS ARE WAGING WAR AGAINST CHRISTIANITY.

Limbaugh enters a very crowded new book release week [O'Reilly, Albom], but the nationally syndicated columnist and brother of Rush has delivered a crushing blow with a charge that liberals in courts, government, media and Hollywood oppress Christianity and anything Christian.

The book ranked 3,057 on AMAZON's hitparade Monday afternoon. Publisher REGNERY plans 100,000 copies in its initial run.

*A New Jersey teacher was forced by an ACLU suit to abandon plans to take children to see the Broadway version of “A Christmas Carol.”

*School officials in Windsor, Virginia prohibited two graduating seniors from singing “The Prayer,” a popular song sung by Celine Dion, among others. When the students raised their first amendment rights, the school announced there would be no singing of any sort at the graduation ceremony.

*In April 2001, the Logan County Public Library in Bowling Green, Kentucky, fired employee Kimberly Draper for wearing a necklace with a cross pendant to work

With PERSECUTION, Limbaugh ups the ante in the intensifying media/culture battle. He was warns the reader in his introduction:

"This book chronicles discrimination against Christians in American society. While tolerance is touted as the highest virtue in our popular culture, Christians are often subjected to scorn and ridicule and denied their religious freedoms."

Developing...

----------------------------------------------------------- Filed By Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for updates (c)DRUDGE REPORT 2003 Not for reproduction without permission of the author


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: bookreview; books; christianpersecution; davidlimbaugh; manymorebooks; morebooks
I wonder which method of selling books is more effective: Oprah Winfrey slapping her "I Approve" label on the cover, or Matt Drudge posting one Internet article about it?
1 posted on 09/22/2003 1:40:31 PM PDT by paulklenk
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To: paulklenk
By the way, Limbaugh's book has risen from number 3,057 on Amazon's hitparade, to number 91, in just one afternoon.

Oprah, eat your heart out (but not until you've finished cramming nine helpings of barbecue down our cake hole).
2 posted on 09/22/2003 1:42:53 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: paulklenk
Looking forward to reading this. David is as good a writer as his bro is a talker.
3 posted on 09/22/2003 1:43:44 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: paulklenk
I would say most of Oprah's fans don't read books they watch tv, while ALL of Drudge's readers actually read....

Gee, duh, I'll guess Drudge......
4 posted on 09/22/2003 1:44:23 PM PDT by tioga
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To: anniegetyourgun
Hi, pumpkin! Thanks for keeping this bumped.

Say hi to the class -- and why not ping them to this thread while you're at it?
5 posted on 09/22/2003 1:44:42 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: paulklenk
You're question is rhetorical, isn't it?
6 posted on 09/22/2003 1:45:31 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well...there you go again.)
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To: paulklenk
**THE RELIGIOUS WAR IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, IT IS IN THIS COUNTRY!

We'd all be well to recognize that whether we're talking about the War on Terror, or the battles over domestic politics here at home, have both become spiritual conflicts.

7 posted on 09/22/2003 1:47:08 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well...there you go again.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
While we're on the subject:

DEPORT HILLARY!

Still being,

8 posted on 09/22/2003 1:50:17 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: tioga
Thank you for posting to my thread. Please keep this bumped,

Regards,

me
9 posted on 09/22/2003 1:53:02 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: My2Cents
Thank you for posting to my thread. Please keep this bumped,

Regards,

me
10 posted on 09/22/2003 1:53:13 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: paulklenk; billbears; 4ConservativeJustices
This book chronicles discrimination against Christians in American society. While tolerance is touted as the highest virtue in our popular culture, Christians are often subjected to scorn and ridicule and denied their religious freedoms.

Like I've said: The genocide and hate-crime laws are in place--just needing a federal judge(royalty) decreeing what the Constitution meant concerning sexual orientation.

11 posted on 09/22/2003 1:55:47 PM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meaton)
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To: Admin Moderator
I would like to invite all Admin Moderators, from the Land of Fresno Where the Shadows Grow, to post to this thread with their insight, witticisms and blithe comments.

A light lunch will be served after.
12 posted on 09/22/2003 1:55:48 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: paulklenk
Looking forward to reading the book placemarker.
13 posted on 09/22/2003 1:57:05 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned) ( designeduniverse.com Fighting evos exposing years of lies, restoring conservatism.)
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To: Ff--150
I think you are correct in your comments.

Thank you for posting to my thread. Please keep this bumped.

Milking this thread for all it's worth,

me
14 posted on 09/22/2003 1:57:31 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: goodseedhomeschool (returned)
Me, too!

Thank you for posting to my thread. Please keep this bumped.

Still milking,

me
15 posted on 09/22/2003 1:57:57 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: paulklenk
Hmmmm. . . I think the thesis is overstated. The liberal assault on Christianity is actually directed against Evangelicals and Catholics.

The 'ecumenicals' are actually part of the attack. Catholics and Evangelicals tend to point out uncomfortable facts to the ecumenicals, like scripture. This is not appreciated by churches that want to change Christianity into just another new-age religion.

The 'ecumenicals' are part of the leftist establishment. They are important since they provide cover to people like Billary. It's important to liberals to be able to keep up the pretense of being Christians while attacking the tenents of Christianity by attending ecumenical Churches carrying Bibles they have never opened.

If we define Christianity to mean bible based Christianity, then Limbaugh's thesis is not overstated.

16 posted on 09/22/2003 2:14:34 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker
Thank you for your thoughtful remarks.

Please pick up an item of your choice from the gift table.

17 posted on 09/22/2003 2:17:52 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: paulklenk
Please pick up an item of your choice from the gift table.

OK

18 posted on 09/22/2003 2:35:24 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: paulklenk
Well, thank you for posting it. While this is an important book, it frustrates me, because what can anyone do about this increasing influence of the Seculofascists in our society?
19 posted on 09/22/2003 2:43:04 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well...there you go again.)
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To: paulklenk
I have to go with Drudge, I am thinking about purchasing the book.
20 posted on 09/22/2003 3:00:43 PM PDT by cpprfld (Who said accountants are boring?)
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To: My2Cents
Unfortunately, all we can do is not vote for those of them that are running for office.

Hey, at least we are not being thrown to the lions...at least not yet.

Best Regards

Sergio
21 posted on 09/22/2003 3:01:57 PM PDT by Sergio (Thinking of something witty to say.)
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To: paulklenk
In April 2001, the Logan County Public Library in Bowling Green, Kentucky, fired employee Kimberly Draper for wearing a necklace with a cross pendant to work.

Somebody blew a very easy fact check there. I point that out for the benefit of any slobbering adulators who will take this work as gospel.

22 posted on 09/22/2003 3:06:39 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (In a head to head race between Arnold and Tom McClintock - I vote for competence, and choose Arnold)
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To: paulklenk
My wife and I used to spend every Easter at the small Christian church located in the heart of Yosemite National Park. It was awesome. We met people from all over the world, shared in our faith, and walked out after the service to look at the beauty of Bridal Veil Falls.

Then, in 1997, Bill Clinton's administration decided that despite the fact that the church was there before the park, and under the cover of "environmental upgrades", the church was closed down.

When I wrote to the National Park Service to protest, they brought up the "Separation of Church and State" as the basis for not allowing the church to exist any more.

I asked them to please point out the clause in our constitution that allows the federal government to sieze land with a church on it then condemn the church... they could not.
23 posted on 09/22/2003 3:16:56 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: paulklenk
>"While tolerance is touted as the highest virtue in our popular culture, Christians are often subjected to scorn and ridicule and denied their religious freedoms."

On one hand, I'm glad
to see this book. Left wing hate
for Christians defines

almost everything
they do. On the other hand,
This book just further

promotes culture war
throughout our society.
People take up sides

about everything
these days. I don't feel any
pop imperative

stressing that happy
people always find a way
to work together...

I can't imagine
a sane, functioning culture
built on everyone

hating their neighbors.
(But it must be obvious
that the business world

will thrive (for a while)
supplying all the groups with
pop "ammunication.")

I would rather beat
all the 'Rats without playing
their hate games with them...

24 posted on 09/22/2003 3:23:08 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Sergio
Sergio, I agree. Reason enough to keep Bush President. And this is reason, too, why the Dems are so set against approving his most conservative judicial nominees.
25 posted on 09/22/2003 3:25:46 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well...there you go again.)
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To: Sergio
>at least we are not being thrown to the lions...at least not yet

I'd imagine that
will kick in right about when
Prez Hill' starts term two...

26 posted on 09/22/2003 3:26:59 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: paulklenk
IMHO the Left is being very short sighted in their war against Christanity - for the simple reason that it flys in the face of human nature: The more you forbid something, the more people are going to want it.

Look at the former Soviet Union and East Black countries. They stoutly forbid and punished religious belief,and look what happened when the people gained their freedom The smoldering volcano of religous belief exploded. Few places are more religious (church attendence, seminary students, etc. ) than these countries. The same will happen here. "The forbidden fruit is always the sweetest."

This bitter-ambition of the Left, like so many of their others, is doomed to fail.

27 posted on 09/22/2003 3:52:58 PM PDT by yankeedame ("I assure you I was just whistling for a cab.")
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To: ModelBreaker
Welp, we're in this mess precisely because the Liberals, Secularists, Marxists and Atheists are waging a war Christians refuse to fight.

And they just love it.

While we pray and hold candleight vigils and kneel while holding hands around our taken-for-granted monuments, the Enemy is leapfrogging over us and going right to the Courts and the Councils and the bastions of education to pummel us to dust via judicial activism and getting their lifestyles and cultures ensconced in LAW.

So while we have knelt, and slept in the arms of relevant prosperity, the theives have come in the night and stolen our birthrights because we refused to STAND GUARD.

Now our very religious right to free exercise and of speech is in the balance, and unless we stand in the gap left vacant, draw the sword of truth and cut down the crap and FIGHT this war, then we lose and America is doomed to utter annihilation and subjugation.

Think Queen Hillary with Patriot Acts I & II at her disposal, and it might make General Maximus' stint in the coloseum tame in comparison.

We might witness Wacos every week, with a bunch of churchified folk cheering right along with the rest of the Counter Culture bunch.

Wouldn't want to lose the 501C3 status and shrink the offering plate income.
28 posted on 09/22/2003 3:53:04 PM PDT by INVAR
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To: paulklenk
I just got back from buying this book. I was shocked when the teenage girl at the checkout expressed interest in it, and wanted to read it.
29 posted on 09/22/2003 3:53:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: paulklenk
Aside from the main topic of the book, what Limbaugh is trying to remind people is that we are still in a culture war, one we are losing everyday. This is just one front. Listened to hannity this afternoon tell college students to "just put up with" liberal-indocrination at their colleges.
Somehow, that struck me as a pretty weak answer. What, we should just ignore the influence of big-media, colleges, hollyweird on our youth and trust it won't erode our democracy?
30 posted on 09/22/2003 5:00:42 PM PDT by Arkady
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To: nickcarraway
Do not be surprised believe it or not the newest members of my Church are also among the youngest members.
31 posted on 09/22/2003 5:17:21 PM PDT by peter the great
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To: Ff--150; billbears
For an interesting opinion on this subject, read "Valley of the Dry Bones" online. Written by Jim Reames in 1992, they convert/post a chapter a week. It's linked from www.patriotist.com.
32 posted on 09/22/2003 5:22:17 PM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: Arkady
bump
33 posted on 09/22/2003 5:23:05 PM PDT by mlmr (Today is the first day of the rest of the pie.)
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To: paulklenk
LK 21:7 "Teacher," they asked, "when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?"

LK 21:8 He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, `I am he,' and, `The time is near.' Do not follow them. [9] When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away."

LK 21:10 Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. [11] There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

LK 21:12 "But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. [13] This will result in your being witnesses to them. [14] But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. [15] For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. [16] You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. [17] All men will hate you because of me.

34 posted on 09/22/2003 5:25:21 PM PDT by apackof2 (Watch and pray till you see Him coming, no one knows the hour or the day)
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To: ModelBreaker
Amen to your post!
I see you that you too have taken notice to the "so called Christians" (ala- Barry Lind) the Media trots out everytime they choose to slam the bible believing Christian majority in this country. They are all so willing to display their superior understanding of the scriptures as they happily join in the effort to paint us all as unintelligent, uninformed, and typical "knee jerk right wing extremist".

Ecumenical is such a nice work for what these people call themsleves.
I much prefer calling them what they are; HERITICS!
35 posted on 09/22/2003 8:06:16 PM PDT by Hillarys nightmare
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To: Hillarys nightmare; Salem
Just a repost so we don't have to look up so far...




XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON SEPT 22, 2003 13:44:25 ET XXXXX

THE OTHER LIMBAUGH: NEW BOOK CALL TO ARMS AGAINST 'CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION'

**THE RELIGIOUS WAR IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, IT IS IN THIS COUNTRY!

**IN 1776, 99.8% OF THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA WERE PROFESSED CHRISTIANS

The new season may be only one day old but the most controversial book of the season may just be: David Limbaugh's PERSECUTION: HOW LIBERALS ARE WAGING WAR AGAINST CHRISTIANITY.

Limbaugh enters a very crowded new book release week [O'Reilly, Albom], but the nationally syndicated columnist and brother of Rush has delivered a crushing blow with a charge that liberals in courts, government, media and Hollywood oppress Christianity and anything Christian.

The book ranked 3,057 on AMAZON's hitparade Monday afternoon. Publisher REGNERY plans 100,000 copies in its initial run.

*A New Jersey teacher was forced by an ACLU suit to abandon plans to take children to see the Broadway version of “A Christmas Carol.”

*School officials in Windsor, Virginia prohibited two graduating seniors from singing “The Prayer,” a popular song sung by Celine Dion, among others. When the students raised their first amendment rights, the school announced there would be no singing of any sort at the graduation ceremony.

*In April 2001, the Logan County Public Library in Bowling Green, Kentucky, fired employee Kimberly Draper for wearing a necklace with a cross pendant to work

With PERSECUTION, Limbaugh ups the ante in the intensifying media/culture battle. He was warns the reader in his introduction:

"This book chronicles discrimination against Christians in American society. While tolerance is touted as the highest virtue in our popular culture, Christians are often subjected to scorn and ridicule and denied their religious freedoms."

Developing...

36 posted on 09/22/2003 8:37:32 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
See, now Christians are hypocrits, "carnal," with the "preachers" grubbing money from lonely, little, old ladies.

Ergo, if those hypocritical Christians are so wrong about everything, they've got to be all wet concerning homosexuality /sarcasm. Again, the laws are in place to start dragging Christians to fed. prisons, guilty before proven innocent concerning homosexuality...

37 posted on 09/23/2003 3:55:58 AM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: INVAR
Welp, we're in this mess precisely because the Liberals, Secularists, Marxists and Atheists are waging a war Christians refuse to fight.

FIVE-STAR post, INVAR!! Maybe a lack of testosterone in the pews, hmmm?

38 posted on 09/23/2003 4:02:50 AM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: Ff--150
Again, the laws are in place to start dragging Christians to fed. prisons, guilty before proven innocent concerning homosexuality...

'zactly. If you have a few moments, see the online book I referenced previously.

What we need are more Justice Moore's and men that understand (and abide by) the Constitution, the Declaration, and the Bible.

39 posted on 09/23/2003 4:53:39 AM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Can't pull that article up, sorry. Research that later. Sounds good.

Again, the Constitution is null and void, a part of history. The ride is going to get rough for those with moral convictions, for the sheeple have been too dumbed-down to even understand the rudiments of the Constitution...

40 posted on 09/23/2003 5:20:39 AM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: paulklenk
David was on Fox & Friends this AM. Book looks interesting but I'm afraid only those who understand the fallacy in separation of church and state will read it and the ACLU and all the supremes will continue to distort the 1st Adm.

Sad to go through life only known as the not so famous brother.
41 posted on 09/23/2003 5:31:23 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: INVAR
>Welp, we're in this mess precisely because the Liberals, Secularists, Marxists and Atheists are waging a war Christians refuse to fight

whelp -- young animal,
especially the young of
wolves, lions, bears, dogs...

42 posted on 09/23/2003 7:11:17 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Ff--150
Maybe a lack of testosterone in the pews, hmmm?

Actually it's a lack of conviction, a lack of knowledge in both the scriptures and the Charters of Freedom, the watering-down of religion, the establishment of a feel-good-Bible-Bingo-custom-made-modern-Jesus doctrine and a general lack of preaching and teaching the Truth about sin and the need to overcome it.

In short, religion in America has become what scripture itself foretold: "...having the form of religion, but denying the power thereof" (2 Tim 3:1-5)

And also what Jesus Himself said quoting Isaiah: "This people honors me with their lips, but their hearts are far away from me. In vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men" (Mt.15:8-9)

To which our Founders in their wisdom warned us themselves:"When a People forget God, tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry

And Wala! Here we are in America today - heading down the express elevator to chaos, oppression, obscurity and oblivion as a nation.

43 posted on 09/23/2003 7:20:55 AM PDT by INVAR
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To: theFIRMbss
Welp.. - (not whelp)= Country slang; Well, mimicking my hillbilly environs. Apologies please, I wasn't aware we were being graded on our proper use of English.

You can put down your red pens now. I feel like I'm back in Mrs. Merschack's 3rd grade English class.

44 posted on 09/23/2003 7:27:17 AM PDT by INVAR
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To: INVAR
>Apologies please, I wasn't aware we were being graded on our proper use of English


45 posted on 09/23/2003 7:35:21 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: INVAR
And Wala! Here we are in America today - heading down the express elevator to chaos, oppression, obscurity and oblivion as a nation

Another bump your way, 'cuz you and those scriptures make some real sense!

46 posted on 09/23/2003 7:44:53 AM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: paulklenk
Oprah, eat your heart out (but not until you've finished cramming nine helpings of barbecue down our cake hole).

Be nice, Oprah is not really a bad sort.

47 posted on 09/23/2003 5:46:19 PM PDT by JoeSchem (Which way is Arnold's political weather vane pointing today?)
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