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Mexicans Protest Expulsion Program
washingtonpost.com ^ | Monday, September 22, 2003 | Kevin Sullivan

Posted on 09/22/2003 6:06:06 PM PDT by One_American

U.S. Says Effort Has Halted Desert Deaths

By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, September 22, 2003; Page A20

MEXICO CITY, Sept. 21 -- Mexican officials are strongly protesting a new U.S. program that flies illegal immigrants caught in the Arizona desert hundreds of miles to Texas, where they are returned to Mexico.

U.S. officials say the program, begun Sept. 8, is a humanitarian measure aimed at preventing returned migrants from simply attempting to cross again into Arizona, where many have died of exposure. Instead, U.S. officials are flying them as far east as Laredo, Tex., into more populated and less dangerous sections of the border.

The U.S. Embassy here said the pilot program, which concludes at the end of this month, has worked. Nearly 2,400 illegal immigrants have been taken from Arizona to Texas, and since the program began, no deaths have been reported in a desert that has averaged more than one death a day in recent years.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borders; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration
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Officials in Mexican cities along the Texas border have also complained that dumping thousands of immigrants in their communities will be expensive and disruptive. They say the plan offers no long-term solution to illegal immigration and will strain their already limited budgets for sending immigrants back to their home towns.

But it's OK to dump them by the millions in US cities all over America. How ironic is this situation and blatantly hypocritical of them to say this.

1 posted on 09/22/2003 6:06:06 PM PDT by One_American
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To: One_American
Expulsion-program. Does this mean no more refried beans?
Seriously, if libs gave a damn, they'd help us make Mexico a real, economically-vibrant nation, instead of aiding them in blaming everything on U.S.
Mexico has lots of natural resources, not least its hard-working people, who if freed from the nanny-state of socialism, wouldn't need to take these hidieous risks.
2 posted on 09/22/2003 6:11:23 PM PDT by Arkady
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To: One_American
Let them protest...

So long as they do it from south of the border.

3 posted on 09/22/2003 6:11:53 PM PDT by Fixit (Laughing at history unfold over @ http://comedian.blogspot.com)
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To: One_American
why not fly them back to mexico...to an isolated airstrip in Chiapas. Probably expensive, some would say cruel...
But maybe criminals would get the point that breaking American law can be a real pain in the @ss
4 posted on 09/22/2003 6:12:32 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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The more weakness we exhibit, the more they will exploit us.
5 posted on 09/22/2003 6:16:09 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Concerned about globalism? read http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/110100-td.htm)
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To: One_American
Why are we flying them ?? Bus them around in some of those prison buses with no AC.
6 posted on 09/22/2003 6:18:13 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam : totalitarian political ideology / meme cloaked under the cover of religion)
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To: Arkady
How come these attorneys for the immigration advocacy groups do not set up offices in Mexico and help the Mexicans navigate thru the immigration paperwork to come to the US legally? Why hasn't any GOP politician challenge them on this issue?
7 posted on 09/22/2003 6:23:17 PM PDT by Fee
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx
ping
8 posted on 09/22/2003 6:28:06 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: One_American
Officials in Mexican cities along the Texas border have also complained that dumping thousands of immigrants in their communities will be expensive and disruptive. They say the plan offers no long-term solution to illegal immigration and will strain their already limited budgets for sending immigrants back to their home towns.

This really says it all, doesn't it?

I guess these Mexican officials are "racists", like everyone else who points out the obvious.

9 posted on 09/22/2003 6:28:25 PM PDT by Imal (The deadliest weapon is patience.)
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To: One_American
Mexicans in this country illegally are lucky that the US government sends them back to Mexico humanely. They're lucky they aren't shot trying to cross the border. They should STFU and stay in their miserable cesspool of a third world country and try and drag it out of feudalism into the 21st century. Miserable dogs.
10 posted on 09/22/2003 6:31:03 PM PDT by BeerSwillr
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To: One_American
Mexican idiots.

A person could pull out their hair with hypocracy so blatant.

Maybe the United States should send a BILL to the Mexican Government for the education expenses related to the children of illegal immigrants, and any social service afforded by the use of the Mexican consular "matricula" card, and highway fees associated with any Mexican citizen holding an American driver's license.

11 posted on 09/22/2003 6:31:13 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (Don't talk about my armchair unless you know how to pull the recliner lever.)
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To: One_American
Damned straight!!
12 posted on 09/22/2003 6:32:21 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
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To: PokeyJoe
I like those ideas. Very creative. heh-heh
13 posted on 09/22/2003 6:32:36 PM PDT by BeerSwillr
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To: Fee
Hispanic-immigrants are screwed, because at this time both parties and the president of mexico are more interested in playing political fotball with them, rather than actually fixing mexico's economy.
if i were them i'd at least cast a vote for repub's and buy into America, rather than buying the empty victim-pandering promises of the libs.
14 posted on 09/22/2003 6:35:33 PM PDT by Arkady
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To: One_American
Makes sense! The Mexican offical in the area where the wetback crosses is the one that gets the cut from the coyote and/or wetback, no matter how many tries it takes. If the wetback crosses successfully at another point, the goberment official at the first point has to send the official at the second point the wetback's crossing fee (less "handling" fees specified by Mexican law).

When is our government going to realize the great danger we face from Mexican wetbacks and foreign terrorist who cross the easy border and do something about it. SEAL THE BORDER; SEND THEM HOME. DO WHAT THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES YOU TO DO AND WHAT YOU SWORE TO DO!!!

15 posted on 09/22/2003 6:39:40 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: BeerSwillr
yeah, I know - but somebody has to say it at least once when you talk about illegal immigrants.
16 posted on 09/22/2003 6:40:13 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (Don't talk about my armchair unless you know how to pull the recliner lever.)
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To: Centurion2000
Put a thousand of them in a C5A and fly them to Mexico City.
24 flights a day, 1 an hour and see how the mexican govt deals with them.
17 posted on 09/22/2003 6:43:59 PM PDT by ssdb
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To: ssdb
2500 gone,eight million to go!
18 posted on 09/22/2003 6:48:02 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Centurion2000
Hell, road march 'em at gunpoint.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

19 posted on 09/22/2003 6:48:58 PM PDT by wku man
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To: wku man
Cant they just be shot for trespassing?
20 posted on 09/22/2003 6:50:31 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: wku man
Cant they just be shot for trespassing?
21 posted on 09/22/2003 6:50:32 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: One_American
"Mexican officials are strongly protesting a new U.S. program that flies illegal immigrants caught in the Arizona desert hundreds of miles to Texas, where they are returned to Mexico."

Too bad. Why should they be OUR problem?

22 posted on 09/22/2003 6:51:06 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Arkady
if freed from the nanny-state of socialism, wouldn't need to take these hidieous risks. Well said and worth repeating.
23 posted on 09/22/2003 6:51:43 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Will_Zurmacht
It looks to me like breaking American law is no problem for 10 million illegal Mexicans. They're aided and abetted by the Mexican government, our own government, the ACLU, the Republicans, the Democrats, etc, etc. Did I leave anyone out?
24 posted on 09/22/2003 6:56:32 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: dljordan
The Communist Party of America, the Boy Scouts, Al-Queda and the RIAA.

And the list goes on and on...
25 posted on 09/22/2003 7:01:18 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ain't Skeered...)
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To: One_American
We treat these illegals much more humanely than the Mexicans treat the Central Americans that invade Mexico's southern border. I don't think the Mexicans give their invaders welfare and free education. Why aren't they considered racist?
26 posted on 09/22/2003 7:03:24 PM PDT by 07055
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To: One_American
But it's OK to dump them by the millions in US cities all over America

That's exactly what is happening, and has been for the past decade or so.

It's a government approved invasion......

27 posted on 09/22/2003 7:03:34 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: dljordan
It looks to me like breaking American law is no problem for 10 million illegal Mexicans. They're aided and abetted by the Mexican government, our own government, the ACLU, the Republicans, the Democrats, etc, etc. Did I leave anyone out?

As President Bush and the democrats have their heads buried deep in sand, with hands over ears.....

28 posted on 09/22/2003 7:04:42 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: ssdb
"Put a thousand of them in a C5A and fly them to Mexico City."

And make them walk off the back ramp at 12,000' AGL with no chute. A couple of those flights, and the problem would be cured.
29 posted on 09/22/2003 7:16:20 PM PDT by 11B3 (Don't bring an AK to a MOAB fight.)
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To: One_American
As I have said before, this is only a half-ass'ed answer!
They should be transported to the furthest reaches of Mexico, the tip of the Mex. side of the Baja gulf at the least.

I am sick of hearing these illegal invaders refered to as "hard working", "undocumented workers", "migrants", "refugee's" etc.

Hard working? Then let them do the hard work of correcting their own corrupt and despotic government instead of merely exploiting the sacrifices of OUR fore-fathers!

I know, they are too fond of the benifits of socialism to actually force any significant changes, it's so much easier to sneak into the U.S., take a good job from an American, and send enough money back to allow the relatives to bribe their way to the top of the local dung hill!

So long as WE continue to make it more appealing to keep the status quo going in Mex. than to force a change nothing will get any better on either side of the border!

So long as we continue to allow V.Fox to export his political opposition, then profit off the money they send back home, WE are implicated in the continued Mex. tragedy.
Mex. has plenty of natural resources, there is no rational reason for Mex. to remain the ****-hole it is!

Sealing the border might be painful for some on both sides temporarily, but it is the only right thing to do in the long run, for the good of both countries!
30 posted on 09/22/2003 7:18:53 PM PDT by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
why not fly them back to mexico...to an isolated airstrip in Chiapas.

No. Fly them to Guantanamo and then release them on the other side of the fence into Cuba. After you do that a few hundred times, the number of Mexicans crossing the border will be reduced to a mere trickle in no time.

31 posted on 09/22/2003 7:20:21 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is alive!)
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To: One_American
BTTT
32 posted on 09/22/2003 7:29:50 PM PDT by Madcelt (some may call it paranoia, Call it what you will,but its' kept me alive.)
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To: One_American
I really don't get these Mexicans. They have no problems sealing off their own southern border. Yet the U.S. is not allowed to protect its own borders.
33 posted on 09/22/2003 7:42:29 PM PDT by David1
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To: One_American; *immigrant_list; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; CheneyChick; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Bump for this excellent find One!

Mexican officials are strongly protesting a new U.S. program that flies illegal immigrants caught in the Arizona desert hundreds of miles to Texas, where they are returned to Mexico.

Aw, my heart pumps donkiy pee for them- NOT!!!

34 posted on 09/22/2003 7:51:46 PM PDT by JustPiper (Ted needs a drink- Our "W" is NOT a ONE term President !!!)
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To: One_American; ETERNAL WARMING
EW...another source for your calling thread -g-

Call Us Toll Free The USA Immigration Law Center Offices throughout the East Coast


Make that call Freepers

35 posted on 09/22/2003 8:02:18 PM PDT by JustPiper (Ted needs a drink- Our "W" is NOT a ONE term President !!!)
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To: Fixit; ETERNAL WARMING; Pro-Bush
But Fixit, thats the problem the illegals began their trek a few days ago across country by bus, The Mexican Million March, EW and I were hoping to get a better turnout to greet them at every stop. EW? Would you put the basic info up for all on this thread please?

Here is the original thread:
Immigrants bus cross-country to demand civil rights- thanx to Freeper ProBush

36 posted on 09/22/2003 8:06:49 PM PDT by JustPiper (Ted needs a drink- Our "W" is NOT a ONE term President !!!)
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To: Fixit
Kansas City is doing something about it
37 posted on 09/22/2003 8:15:28 PM PDT by JustPiper (Ted needs a drink- Our "W" is NOT a ONE term President !!!)
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To: One_American
They cost our city a trauma center, but Mexico has no problem with that.
38 posted on 09/22/2003 8:18:41 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
39 posted on 09/22/2003 8:25:10 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: One_American
Cruz Bustamante has requested they be flown to LAX where they will be issued Drivers Licenses and Voter Registration Cards...
40 posted on 09/22/2003 8:36:45 PM PDT by OrioleFan
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To: Fixit
Let them protest...
So long as they do it from south of the border.

Exactly! They are here illegally -- what do they expect -- a Holiday Inn! I think this program is great and should be continued!

41 posted on 09/22/2003 8:38:07 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: JustPiper
They can talk to the end of the Donkey the hay comes out of because the end it goes in from ain't listening.
42 posted on 09/22/2003 9:17:45 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: gubamyster
What do they mean by protesting the expulsion program? It's not like we're shoting them out of a "Circus Cannon" back across the border.
43 posted on 09/22/2003 9:23:38 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: One_American
…a new U.S. program that flies illegal immigrants caught in the Arizona desert hundreds of miles… where they are returned to Mexico.

Sounds good to me. They should be grateful for the parachutes.

44 posted on 09/22/2003 9:36:33 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: David1
They have no problems sealing off their own southern border.

If thousands of gringos started heading south over that northern border of Mexico, they'd be doing something about that real quick.

45 posted on 09/22/2003 9:47:55 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: One_American
humanitarian measure aimed at preventing returned migrants from simply attempting to cross again into Arizona, where many have died of exposure.

Really I think the Mexican government would be happier if we sent them smack into the middle of the Sonoran desert and let them die. To see how much the Mexican officials really care about the illegals, our officials only need to say "oil for illegals" and they start showing their true colors. No --- they don't care one drop of oil about these people.

46 posted on 09/22/2003 9:51:02 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: One_American
Seriously, I would prefer that they be flown back to Mexico City.

Mexico is one of the leading petroleum producers in the world, and an industrialized country that sells its primary products for dollars on the world market. There is no reason at all that they should be unable to absorb their own population. There is no reason they should be unable to pay their work force more than $1 to $2 an hour. Their products sell on the world market for dollars, same as everyone else.

If access to cheap labor is the supposed secret of our economic success, why is Mexico unable to prosper when it is the source of that cheap labor?

Hundreds of thousands of Mexicans leave every year, a calamity of biblical proportions, and no one questions it. Its accepted as being just part of life, like the weather.
47 posted on 09/22/2003 9:54:49 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
There is no reason they should be unable to pay their work force more than $1 to $2 an hour.

Exactly. Some people believe in "zero-sum" economics and think that there are a set amount of jobs, a set amount of middle class lifestyles and that we must "share" ours with the less fortunate. But Mexico could easily have a high standard of living --- it competes with Great Britain in number of billionaires! It just needs to make a few important changes, denationalize the oil for one ---- they've got huge oil reserves. 80% of the population should not be living in severe poverty.

The other thing --- becoming more and more a parasite economy is only making things worse. In states like Zacatecas, 50% of the population now is living in the USA sending money back to hold the other 50% above water until they too can make it over here. Mexico is becoming like one great inner-city ---totally dependent on money coming in from the outside but no investments being made.

48 posted on 09/22/2003 10:07:58 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: BeerSwillr
They should STFU and stay in their miserable cesspool of a third world country

Too bad you didn't.

49 posted on 09/22/2003 10:10:42 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: FITZ
Based on the blatant interference in our domestic affairs by the Mexican government, to say nothing of border patrol officers coming under fire from our good neighbors to the south, my vote would be to send thousands of gringos over the border into Mexico.

Only these gringos would uniformed and armed. In that event, the only thing the Mexicans would do real quick would be to surrender and sue for peace.

That won't happen. Nor does it need to. Those thousands of troops need only position themselves at the border. That'll get Mexico's attention and end the careers of many a coyote.

Unfortunately, Washington seems indifferent to the porousness of our southern border, costing it credibility in the War on Terror, and leaving Americans vulnerable to Islamo-fascist penetration.

50 posted on 09/22/2003 10:30:46 PM PDT by MadeInOhio
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