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An Analysis of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Environmental Policy
Arnold Schwarzenegger's Website / Vanity | Sept. 23, 2003 | Mark Edward Vande Pol, aka, Carry_Okie

Posted on 09/23/2003 1:59:55 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

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To: Carry_Okie
Good work Mark. Keep it up.
141 posted on 10/04/2003 10:25:23 PM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: Carry_Okie
More good info. You've done a great job of putting the details out for display - unfortunately few Arnold supporters seem interested.
142 posted on 10/05/2003 6:43:51 AM PDT by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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To: NittanyLion
When a person has sold out their principles for an imagined reality that they KNOW isn't supported by facts, they have no intention of being so reminded. They so fear the accountability that comes with the failure to sell their ideas that they cave to the false whispers of half a loaf.

When people, especially moderates, are confronted with a hard choice, that choice becomes paradoxically easier. Such is a choice between a conservative and a liberal. Between a conservative and a moderate (as Davis was believed to be), a conservative loses. Between a conservative and a leftist, as Bustamante is and Davis is now exposed to be, a conservative wins, especially amid the wreckage of leftist governance.

That is why it was so evil for the Republican Party to run a supposedly moderate candidate against Bustamante and against their own principled candidate. That candidate is a statist, an anathema to everything for which the party supposedly stands but upon which the leadership depends for the cash flow with which it funds its continuing feckless hegemony. Our protagonist, being an actor, needed only packaging, and a selective message to each divided constituency. Who cares if they are mutually exclusive messages? Just win baby.

Win what? With that philosophy in charge, the corporate and legal feeding frenzy that is destroying this state will continue. The only blessing is that conservatives won't take the blame.
143 posted on 10/05/2003 7:01:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: NittanyLion
More good info. You've done a great job of putting the details out for display

You might find the book to be valuable. There is an alternative to this crooked mess.

144 posted on 10/05/2003 7:28:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: BibChr; Carry_Okie
Hm. I did a search. The word "Bustamante" does not occur once. That has to mean the author did not ask the only important question: "Is his policy worse than Bustamante's?"

Did the author do a similar environmental analysis of Bustamante? I think that's a valid question given the recall election that is about to occur.

IMO, the authors environmental analysis is excellent. His political analysis is not as clear-sighted.

145 posted on 10/05/2003 11:14:51 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Did the author do a similar environmental analysis of Bustamante? I think that's a valid question given the recall election that is about to occur.

Bustamante has not published an environmental policy. To my knowledge, he has not done much more than spout the words "Environmental Justice" in his speeches, which is among the horrors being implemented now under Davis (to include a burden of proof of "no harm" on the part of any permit applicant).

IMO, the authors environmental analysis is excellent. His political analysis is not as clear-sighted.

We have had five years of Davis by which to judge Democratic environmental policy. The eight years of Wilson were nearly coherent with that trend. My family has been in this State for five generations. My book includes a thirty year analysis of leftist policy in the County of Santa Cruz in unprecedented detail, including a real time, inflation adjusted, opportunity cost based analysis of rural residential real estate and the timber industry. Were I you, I would take a hard look at that political analysis before concluding that it is uninformed or shallow.

146 posted on 10/05/2003 11:29:45 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
McClintock Bump!
147 posted on 10/07/2003 4:28:48 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A vote for McClintock is a vote for Kyle Reese...and a vote against Cruz.)
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To: Carry_Okie; My2Cents
Please read the rest of it and then consider my credentials for making the comment.

You're asking her to think critically and that's not how she operates. Every problem is a nail and her mouth is a hammer. This particular reasoned discussion (factual or not) is a problem for her icon_de_jour, consider yourself a nail.

148 posted on 10/07/2003 4:53:56 PM PDT by AAABEST (http://www.floridasoundoff.com)
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To: AAABEST
See #43.

As close to a concession as you'll see.

149 posted on 10/07/2003 11:04:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: AAABEST
You might also want to look at #136.
150 posted on 10/07/2003 11:07:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Thanks for the ping bud.

Ahhhnold's eco-policy ain't gonna happen.

I was out of state and voted absentee for Mr. Freeze, although I wanted McClintock. We need Tom in the U.S. Senate. California is a lost cause I think.

I got back just in time for the groping stories. The leftist "grope free zone" protest gave me an idea. I wanted to go to Santa Cruz and set up "free grope zones" right next to them. Maybe a "grope for charity event" with the proceeds going to pro-life groups. That would really piss them off, wouldn't it?
151 posted on 10/13/2003 5:49:37 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: shaggy eel
His appointments so far have not thrilled those of us in the property rights fights.
152 posted on 11/26/2003 6:13:19 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...

Environmental flashback!!!


153 posted on 05/25/2004 11:06:44 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: RepublicanHostageinCalif

This warning thread was posted before the election. It is an excellent read for those interested in property and water rights.


154 posted on 05/25/2004 11:08:29 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!


155 posted on 05/26/2004 3:03:57 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Carry_Okie

Another fine essay!


156 posted on 05/26/2004 3:46:45 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Either fight for your Rights or lose them!)
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To: B4Ranch

Well, it didn't seem to do much good.

I never saw any of it picked up by a lamestream source. I know that's expecting a lot, but given the massive debacle of the power crisis, one would think that, the fact that Arnold is closely affiliated with the same people who participated in precipitating that crisis, would be noteworthy.


157 posted on 05/26/2004 5:43:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: farmfriend; Carry_Okie

Dang... I forgot about this pearl.
(Mark's fine analysis, that is. The policy is monstrous)

Buried in #4 are some fine talking points to support letter writing in opposition to the conservancy.

Thanks for dusting this off FF.


158 posted on 05/26/2004 5:53:51 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Carry_Okie; farmfriend

I just spotted a SacBee article indicating that Mary Nichols and two other Davis Coastal Commissioners are looking for work!


159 posted on 05/26/2004 7:57:23 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch

Tell them you're sorry but jobs for illegal aliens come 1st!


160 posted on 05/26/2004 8:41:24 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Either fight for your Rights or lose them!)
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