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Hitler At Home On The Internet
The New York Times | September 21,2003 | Tom Zeller

Posted on 09/23/2003 4:54:38 PM PDT by the_greatest_country_ever

Hitler at Home on the Internet By TOM ZELLER
The predominant color scheme of Hitler's "bright, airy chalet" was "a light jade green." Chairs and tables of braided cane graced the sun parlor, and the Führer, "a droll raconteur," decorated his entrance hall with "cactus plants in majolica pots."

Such are the precious and chilling observations in an irony-free 1938 article in Homes & Gardens, a British magazine, on Hitler's mountain retreat in the Bavarian Alps. A bit of arcana, to be sure, but one that has dropped squarely into the current debate over the Internet and intellectual property. This file, too, is being shared.

The resurrection of the article can be traced to Simon Waldman, the director of digital publishing at Guardian Newspapers in Britain, who says he was given a vintage issue of the magazine by his father-in-law. Noticing the Hitler spread, which doted on the compound's high-mountain beauty ("the fairest view in all Europe") at a time when the Nazis had already gobbled up Austria, Mr. Waldman scanned the three pages and posted them on his personal Web site last May.

They sat largely unnoticed until about three weeks ago, when Mr. Waldman made them more prominent on his site and sent an e-mail message to the current editor of Homes & Gardens, Isobel McKenzie-Price, pointing up the article as a historical curiosity.

Ms. McKenzie-Price, citing copyright rules, politely requested that he remove the pages. Mr. Waldman did so, but not before other Web users had turned the pages into communal property, like so many songs and photographs and movies and words that have been illegally traded for more than a decade in the Internet's back alleys.

Still, there was a question of whether the magazine's position was a stance against property theft or a bit of red-faced persnicketiness.

It was 65 years ago last week that the British prime minister, Neville Chamberlain, arrived at Hitler's mountain lair to discuss the Nazis' planned annexation of Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland — a meeting that would lead, two weeks later, to the Munich agreement and Chamberlain's announcement that he had secured "peace for our time."

The seeds of Chamberlain's conclusion may have been planted in the cozy confines of Hitler's "pine-paneled study" — perhaps with the prime minister seated in a striking armchair upholstered in a dainty floral pattern. This we learn from Homes & Gardens.

The article appeared in the November issue — the same month as Kristallnacht, the the Nazis' pogrom against the Jews. For its part, IPC Media, which owns Homes & Gardens, was unwilling to comment on the topic. "We have already made our feelings known to the person who originally posted the article," a spokeswoman for the company said, though she added that even IPC was unclear on the exact status of the copyright.

By the end of last week, links that once pointed to Mr. Waldman's scans were dead but others were springing to life. The pages turned up, for instance, on the Web site of David Irving, the historian who two years ago lost his appeal in a libel case against an American academic who labeled him a Holocaust denier.

He plans on keeping the article up on his site. "If I suspect that an attempt is being made to suppress an awkward item, which I suspect may be behind the Homes & Gardens effort, then I would dig my heels in rather more, and hold out as long as I could," Mr. Irving said.

The episode is an object lesson in the topsy-turvy world of copyright and "fair use" — an area made far murkier by the distributive power of the Internet and the subsequent crisscrossing of international legal codes.

In the United States, the posting would most likely be considered fair use, said Wendy Seltzer, a lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation and a fellow at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard Law School. "Reprinting the article now, 65 years after its original publication, strikes me as more like reporting or commenting on a news story, or fair use, than photocopying a current scientific article to save the cost of buying more magazines," she said.

Britain's Copyright, Design and Patents Act of 1988 considers use of "reasonable portions" of some copyrighted material to be "fair dealing," provided they are used in private study, criticism and review, or news reporting. Simply posting an article on the Web might not qualify.

Indeed, the Internet has ensured that copyright can never be just about one nation's laws. "All copyright issues are international copyright issues," said Edwin Komen, an intellectual property lawyer in Washington. On the Web, he added, "you become vulnerable to just about any jurisdiction in the world."

For all of that, though, IPC Media's unwillingness to discuss even the content of the Hitler article is puzzling to Mr. Waldman. This skeleton was abruptly yanked from the Homes & Gardens closet, yes, but the article reflects more about the mind of aristocratic Britain in 1938 — well known to have given Hitler the benefit of the doubt — than it does about the magazine itself. Even the American press noted the beauty of Hitler's compound, including The New York Times, which on Sept. 18, 1938, wrote that the chalet was "simple in its appointments" and that it commanded "a magnificent highland panorama."

Posting these pages online "doesn't damage Homes & Garden's reputation," Mr. Waldman said. "In fact, putting them up, along with a letter from the editor explaining a bit about them, could be a very positive thing for them to do."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Germany
KEYWORDS: 1938; hitler; house; magazine; media
In 2003, even as we take the media to task for their blatantly anti-american,left-leaning agenda it's quite shocking to look back to 1938 and see how the media has always had a propensity for coddling dictators, even one as reprehensible as Herr Schickelgruber.
1 posted on 09/23/2003 4:54:39 PM PDT by the_greatest_country_ever
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Springtime for Hitler and Germany,
Deutschland is happy and gay.
We're marching to a faster pace,
Look out, here comes the master race.

Springtime for Hitler and Germany,
Winter for Poland and France.
Springtime for Hitler and Germany,
Come on, Germans, go into your dance ...

2 posted on 09/23/2003 4:58:09 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Hitler's "bright, airy chalet" was "a light jade green." Chairs and tables of braided cane graced the sun parlor, and the Führer, "a droll raconteur," decorated his entrance hall with "cactus plants in majolica pots."

He doesn't sound too gay does he?

3 posted on 09/23/2003 5:03:52 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Cacique
In 2003, even as we take the media to task for their blatantly anti-american,left-leaning agenda it's quite shocking to look back to 1938 and see how the media has always had a propensity for coddling dictators, even one as reprehensible as Herr Schickelgruber.

Schickelgruber Ping!

4 posted on 09/23/2003 5:05:16 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: billorites
Hitler was BUTCH I tell you!

Actually, the description provided here could also apply to my Gay boss.

Was Eva Braun a "beard?" Hmmmmm.....

5 posted on 09/23/2003 5:06:27 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: billorites
Funny stuff. You seem to have a talent for clever writing.
You might want to create a screenplay based on what you've posted. May lead to something big, you never know. :-)

6 posted on 09/23/2003 5:07:01 PM PDT by the_greatest_country_ever (Shudder the dystopian nightmare of a world without the greatest country ever. God Bless America.)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
I don't see the scandal here. Hitler was good at interior decoration, give him that. Stalin, in contrast, killed ten times more people and had utterly no taste.
7 posted on 09/23/2003 5:11:03 PM PDT by JoeSchem (Which way is Arnold's political weather vane pointing today?)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Poor little Addie! Always the bourgeois little bastard.
8 posted on 09/23/2003 5:11:45 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Published Sunday also.

Football, fascism and England's Nazi salute


England visit Berlin in 1938

9 posted on 09/23/2003 5:15:28 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Alright, anyone have a link to the offending pages? I went over to David Irving's webpage, and since I don't want to spend hours digging through holocaust denial I'm not going to go hunting there...
10 posted on 09/23/2003 5:16:28 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Alright, anyone have a link to the offending pages? I went over to David Irving's webpage, and since I don't want to spend hours digging through holocaust denial I'm not going to go hunting there...
11 posted on 09/23/2003 5:16:29 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Is it possible they might be referring to this 1938 edition of Homes and Gardens?

Page 1

Page 2

Page 3

Of course, it's a bit hard to read the text from these scans. If interested in the text, one might be better advised to check here.

12 posted on 09/23/2003 5:17:14 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: swilhelm73
See post 12.
13 posted on 09/23/2003 5:17:46 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Apologies, for the text, this is a better link:click here.
14 posted on 09/23/2003 5:21:00 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Aren't you being a little judgmental here? Herr Schickelgruber sounds to me like a pretty nice, generous, fun-loving kind of guy:

All visitors are shown their host's model kennels, where he breeds magnificent Alsatians. Some of his pedigree pets are allowed the run of the house, especially on days when Herr Hitler gives a "Fun Fair" to the local children. On such a day, when State affairs are over, the Squire himself, attended by some of his guests, will stroll through the woods into hamlets above and below. There rustics sit at cottage doors carving trinkets and toys in wood, ivory and bone. It is then the little ones are invited to the house. Coffee, cakes, fruit and sweets are laid for them on trestle tables in the grassy orchards. Then Frauen Göebbels and Göring, in dainty Bavarian dress, arrange chances and folk-songs, while the bolder spirits are given joy-rides in Herr Hitler's private aeroplane.

15 posted on 09/23/2003 5:27:31 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Also quite interesting: more pictures of Hitler's home (both before and after some rather extensive "remodeling").
16 posted on 09/23/2003 5:35:00 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Yeah, a guy to die over, he just takes your breath away. Must have been a real gas at the Fun Fair.
17 posted on 09/23/2003 5:36:39 PM PDT by the_greatest_country_ever (Shudder the dystopian nightmare of a world without the greatest country ever. God Bless America.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Wow! You're pretty good. How'd you find the stuff?
18 posted on 09/23/2003 5:38:46 PM PDT by the_greatest_country_ever (Shudder the dystopian nightmare of a world without the greatest country ever. God Bless America.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Another good link here


gitmo
19 posted on 09/23/2003 5:44:12 PM PDT by gitmo (Zero Tolerance = Intolerance)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Aw, shucks... 8-)

Hey, thanks for cheering me up after I was unable to successfully fix a computer modem problem today!!
20 posted on 09/23/2003 5:47:50 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
See an earlier story on this http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/987112/posts

I posted a few excerpts from the Feb 1937 National Geographic article about Nazi Germany. The article was sympathetic to say the least.
21 posted on 09/23/2003 6:09:26 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: omega4412
Thanks much.

I wish there'd be some convenient way to check to see if something's already been posted without wasting time only to be informed by helpful Freepers as yourself just that. Happens to me too many times.

22 posted on 09/23/2003 6:17:41 PM PDT by the_greatest_country_ever (Shudder the dystopian nightmare of a world without the greatest country ever. God Bless America.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Wow...looks like Adolf could've been the sixth spoke on Queer Eye.
23 posted on 09/23/2003 7:49:56 PM PDT by Katya
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To: Clemenza
Ah yes Schickelgruber, that was Alois name before he changed it to Hitler and passed it on to his bastard son Adolf.

How things never change, lest we forget that Hitler had a cozy little pact with Stalin and the left after that praised Hitler as well.

24 posted on 09/23/2003 9:45:13 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: JoeSchem
I don't see the scandal here. Hitler was good at interior decoration, give him that. Stalin, in contrast, killed ten times more people and had utterly no taste.

Oh, my, Yes! The Nazi art sensibilities were into those paintings of nude zaftig blonde Brunhildes prancing and lighting effervescently sans wardrobe in their alabaster altogethers proudly shown as a display of the supremacy of Aryan Woman. And the point was eloquently displayed...er, made. Brunhilde was always Wunderbar. And the titles were inspired by Nordic Mythos with glorious names like VALKYRIES STROLLING THROUGH ASGARD'S FORESTS.

The Communists, by comparison, with their emphasis on Socialist Realism, always had pictures of a muscular butch Russian woman who was 30 pounds overweight, grossly overdressed, in denim which only enhanced her already too masculine features, with hands clutching a monkey wrench or hammer while driving a tank. Usually with some awful title like SOVIET WOMEN LEAD THE WOMEN'S PROLETARIAN WORKERS AND FEMINIST INTERNATIONALE IN CARBON STEEL PIPE PRODUCTION.

Communism was awful!

25 posted on 09/23/2003 11:00:32 PM PDT by SchrödingersCat (My Position on Israel.)
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