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SMU halts race-based bake sale
Dallas Morning News ^ | 24Sep03 | LINDA K. WERTHEIMER

Posted on 09/24/2003 9:45:14 PM PDT by Prof Engineer

SMU halts race-based bake sale

Anti-affirmative action group used ethnicity, gender to set prices

08:51 PM CDT on Wednesday, September 24, 2003

By LINDA K. WERTHEIMER / The Dallas Morning News

The sign said white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. White women: 75 cents. Hispanics: 50 cents. Blacks: a quarter.

The event Tuesday at Southern Methodist University was no PTA bake sale.

It was a conservative student group's attempt at making a political statement, and it caused such a stir that SMU shut it down after 45 minutes.

The Young Conservatives of Texas chapter ran its so-called affirmative action bake sale to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions. Conservative groups have held similar sales at colleges around the country since February.

Group leaders say they were only making a point while exercising their freedom of speech, but a black student who filed a discrimination complaint with SMU said the bake sale was offensive. SMU officials said they halted the event because it created a potentially unsafe situation for students.

"This was not an issue about free speech," said Tim Moore, director of the Hughes-Trigg Student Center. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created that was potentially volatile."

During the bake sale, students were crowding around the table outside the student center, and several began to get into a shouting match, Mr. Moore said.

David C. Rushing, a second-year SMU law student and leader of the conservatives' group, said the event didn't get out of hand and that at the most, a dozen students gathered around the table of sugar and chocolate chip cookies and Rice Krispie treats.

"We copied what's been done at multiple campuses around the country to illustrate our opinion of affirmative action and how we think it's unfair," said Mr. Rushing, chairman of Young Conservatives of Texas at SMU and for the state.

Chapters of the group held similar bake sales at the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University this month. Both schools allowed the events, citing free speech policies.

Mr. Rushing, 23, said the events strive to give students a sense of the inequality he says is created by unequal college admissions policies for whites and minority groups.

Matt Houston, a sophomore, said the group's sign, which listed prices for the treats by the race and sex of buyers, was not a learning tool. It was offensive, he said.

"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Mr. Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

He and Kambira Jones, a 20-year-old junior, both expressed their concerns to SMU officials. "When I saw this, I was like, 'I can't believe they let you guys post this,' " she said. "I felt they were attempting to make Hispanics and blacks feel inferior. We jumped over the same hoops to get there."

SMU's freshman class this year is one of its most diverse ever – 20 percent are minorities. Overall, minority enrollment among the school's 10,000-member student body is 19 percent.

Before the bake sale brouhaha, SMU already was planning a forum so students and others could debate the aftermath of the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action. The court ruled in June that universities could use race as a factor in admissions under limited conditions. The ruling changes the landscape in Texas, where universities have been banned from using race as a factor since 1996.

"We value free speech, and I think our record here shows freedom of expression is important to the academic community and especially this one," said James Caswell, SMU's vice president of student affairs.

The students organizing the SMU event said they meant no offense. To get permission for setting up, students said only that they were holding a bake sale.

For the record, the SMU sale was a flop, at least financially. The group ended up selling just three cookies, raising $1.50.

E-mail lwertheimer@dallasnews.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: academia; admission; bakesale; college; conservatives; cookie; race; smu; texas; young
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My first post. Be gentle.
1 posted on 09/24/2003 9:45:15 PM PDT by Prof Engineer
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To: Prof Engineer
"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Mr. Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

No, it's based on race, you ignorant dolt of a sophomore.

By the way, Prof, welcome to FR!

}:-)4

2 posted on 09/24/2003 9:51:09 PM PDT by Moose4 (I'm Southern. We've been refighting the Civil War for 138 years, you think we'll forget 9/11?)
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"They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

Obvioulsy, this one needs a little help.
3 posted on 09/24/2003 9:53:06 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon
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Wuss-ass administration. It would seem that Mr. Houston has been properly trained. Talking about diversity and such but having no tolerance for a position contrary to his own.
4 posted on 09/24/2003 9:55:25 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Prof Engineer
At one time, universities were the champions of free speech and protest.
5 posted on 09/24/2003 9:55:31 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Prof Engineer
"I felt they were attempting to make Hispanics and blacks feel inferior. We jumped over the same hoops to get there."

Not exactly, dear.
6 posted on 09/24/2003 9:56:05 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon
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To: Prof Engineer
"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Mr. Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

Affirmative Action is not based on race?!

He and Kambira Jones, a 20-year-old junior, both expressed their concerns to SMU officials. "When I saw this, I was like, 'I can't believe they let you guys post this,' " she said. "I felt they were attempting to make Hispanics and blacks feel inferior. We jumped over the same hoops to get there."

And Affirmative Action makes Hispanics and blacks feel, what...? Superior?

7 posted on 09/24/2003 9:57:00 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
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Interesting. In order to shut down the bake sale, all the affirmative-action thugs had to do was create a hostile and volatile situation.

I smell a 1st Amendment lawsuit here.
8 posted on 09/24/2003 9:57:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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But wasn't the prices intended to bring a diverse community of buyers to their sale?
9 posted on 09/24/2003 9:58:25 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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"We value free speech, and I think our record here shows freedom of expression is important to the academic community and especially this one," said James Caswell, SMU's vice president of student affairs
So we shut down this bake sale !!!!!!!
10 posted on 09/24/2003 9:58:36 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon
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"The Young Conservatives of Texas chapter ran its so-called affirmative action bake sale to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions. Conservative groups have held similar sales at colleges around the country since February.

Group leaders say they were only making a point while exercising their freedom of speech"

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I agree. Why is it OK to do this on a large scale, but people get outraged,when it's being pointed out in a simple straighforward way.

(P.S. -- Congratulations on your first post. Good job! )
11 posted on 09/24/2003 9:59:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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You done good, son. ;~)
12 posted on 09/24/2003 10:00:45 PM PDT by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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For the record, the SMU sale was a flop, at least financially. The group ended up selling just three cookies, raising $1.50
Well, they shut them down. ??? You can`t sell anything if the store is not open. Sheesh....
13 posted on 09/24/2003 10:01:40 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon
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Nothing to ''be gentle'' about. Dandy post!

Too bad the bake sale managers didn't have enough wit to ask the complaining whiner, ''Well, if a quarter ISN'T a fair price, what would you consider to BE a fair price? Same price as everyone else (we daren't say 'normal' people, do we?)? Or, should we subsidise your purchase of these very good cookies even further...say, by GIVING you a cookie and also a quarter? Unfair? Racist? No, you stupid sophomore (etymology: from classical Greek, sophos moros, wise fool), we're merely ridiculing your atrocious handout/victimology mindset. Don't like it? Tough, er, mammary!''

Have a cookie, chump.

14 posted on 09/24/2003 10:03:40 PM PDT by SAJ
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He got a cookie for 1/4 the price of a white man, but he files a discrimination complaint!

LOL! Classic.
15 posted on 09/24/2003 10:05:14 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
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The bake sale was a brilliant idea but of course it was doomed to be shut down by the admin. Anyone know how the sale went at other universities? How many cookies did the newly hired/high salaried diversity officer at A&M buy?
16 posted on 09/24/2003 10:06:22 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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By the way, Prof, welcome to FR!

Thanks. I've actually been here quite awhile. Lurked even longer. This is the first article I've ever posted.

17 posted on 09/24/2003 10:07:29 PM PDT by Prof Engineer (HHD - I married Msdrby on 9/11/03. --- My Tagline is an Honor Student at Taglinus FReerepublicus!)
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"They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

Would somebody explain to Mr. Houston that this is about "diversity". The most important "diversity", in fact. Diversity...of thought.

18 posted on 09/24/2003 10:07:33 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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The Chinese! They aren't listed!

We're they not allowed to purchase cookies at all (or were they charged a 'fortune' for theirs?)

19 posted on 09/24/2003 10:08:58 PM PDT by jigsaw (Liberals: nature’s proof that maturity is not guaranteed.)
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To: Prof Engineer
They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race.

Mr. Houston, check the sign again:

white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. White women: 75 cents.

They're saying that it is based on both sex and race, not soley on race.

And, you are right. It is offensive for there to be different rules for different races and sexes. That was the *$&#$*! point.

20 posted on 09/24/2003 10:10:20 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fight Czarism in America!)
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